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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2013, 02:01:20 PM »
However to a lib, logic will not prevail. Thread derailed by Necrosis...congrats idiot.
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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2013, 03:07:52 PM »
Don't wary too much, French Foreign Legion can lend brigade or 2 if is needed  ;)

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2013, 04:19:03 PM »
What's criminal is that you spend as much as most nations combined on defence while you have people living in destitution at home.
epic unrealistic and delusional utopian vision.

never gonna happen.

many homeless are homeless because theyd rather drink and shoot dope than have a life. No one should give a fuck about these people if they dont give a fuck about themselves.

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2013, 05:00:48 AM »
Every party has low info voters. There are more 'low-info voters' than there are informed ones in the world. The tea party gets portrayed in thr liberal media as a bunch of dumb rednecks, and that is expected..but the truth is the majority of the movement are pretty reasonable people, as evidenced by the policies they support.

Can you show me some reasonable Tea Party people then? A link or something

It is common knowledge that the democratic party has the absolute lock on sheer numbers of low-info voters; they are the ones pushing the welfare state and all the socialist-leaning policies..the big city ghettos and hordes of poor, government-dependant classes in the united states ARE THEIR BASE.


The states that recieve the most money from the government is red states ???

In the above post you agreed with Archer's assesment of europe, in which left leaning ideologues are swamping european nations with 3rd world immigrants while at the same time undermining their own nations and peoples. This is the exact same ideology that the left in the united states is trying to push on us- so why do you support them here?


I think your brain is to wired in to this right-left thing.
You can be pro-healthcare and other stuff you call "left" but without letting 1000's of muslims in to your country.








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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2013, 08:39:37 AM »





The people in the red states recieving all that money are urban dwelling democratic voters. The people who recieve all that money do not vote republican. I think you are a little out of you element here whork, its hard for you to comment so much on america and american politics when you do not live here and your actual knowledge of both are pretty limited and show all the characterizations of someone raised on left wing european media when you are discussing your views of 'how things are' in the united states.

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2013, 09:08:54 AM »
Who says?  Should the greatest of anything be absolutely perfect?

Are you not applying sliding scale when you set that standard?
I think nearly all nations have enough.  unfortunately, doing too much of it breeds an unproductive society.  Its tough to find a balance and that balance is always a good subject. of debate.

It can be argued we should always do mare and we should always do less.



I do think it should strive for excellance in many key areas yes. Homelessness and poverty should not exist, do you not see the absolute over abundence of material goods? Does it not hurt you to see another human suffering terribly when you see people drive around in sports cars etc. What I am saying is our priorities as a species have to change or we will die. Humans as a species are social animals, we rely on each other and teamwork and the ability to communicate have been our crowning achievement.

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2013, 09:14:01 AM »
utter nonsense

does anyone believe or understand how small 2 brigades are......someone wants more TDY and per diem, ahole

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2013, 09:25:50 AM »

I do think it should strive for excellance in many key areas yes. Homelessness and poverty should not exist, do you not see the absolute over abundence of material goods? Does it not hurt you to see another human suffering terribly when you see people drive around in sports cars etc. What I am saying is our priorities as a species have to change or we will die. Humans as a species are social animals, we rely on each other and teamwork and the ability to communicate have been our crowning achievement.

Typical utopian lib fantasy...
Of course everyone wants a world where no one will be hungry or poor or sick, where there is no suffering or injustice.
The reality is tho, that will never and can never happen. There will always be haves and have nots, even in the most rigid socialist societies. All of these things are part of the human condition and always will be so.
The sooner you libs gets on board with this REALITY the better things will be

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2013, 09:32:55 AM »
Typical utopian lib fantasy...
Of course everyone wants a world where no one will be hungry or poor or sick, where there is no suffering or injustice.
The reality is tho, that will never and can never happen. There will always be haves and have nots, even in the most rigid socialist societies. All of these things are part of the human condition and always will be so.
The sooner you libs gets on board with this REALITY the better things will be

True.  You can never legislate poverty away.  All you do is exchange one set of problems for another.

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2013, 10:12:48 AM »
Typical utopian lib fantasy...
Of course everyone wants a world where no one will be hungry or poor or sick, where there is no suffering or injustice.
The reality is tho, that will never and can never happen. There will always be haves and have nots, even in the most rigid socialist societies. All of these things are part of the human condition and always will be so.
The sooner you libs gets on board with this REALITY the better things will be

They don't have to be, why is it a fantasy? I am not saying people can have more then others, but there has to be a social floor and extreme poverty and inequality that exists is a stain on a civilized nation.

The US is not only not good but terrible in terms of inequality. There is no reason besides greed.

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2013, 10:14:09 AM »
True.  You can never legislate poverty away.  All you do is exchange one set of problems for another.

Poverty no, but homelessness, people without medical help(psyhoclogical) living on the streets etc can be legislated away for the most part.


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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2013, 10:20:43 AM »
They don't have to be, why is it a fantasy? I am not saying people can have more then others, but there has to be a social floor and extreme poverty and inequality that exists is a stain on a civilized nation.

The US is not only not good but terrible in terms of inequality. There is no reason besides greed.

Not true at all.  Both the state and federal government spend a plethora of money on social programs for poor people and people who have fallen on hard times.  For example, someone who gets laid off from their job can get paid for a year or longer through unemployment compensation.  Someone who doesn't make enough to put food on the table can get food stamps to buy food.  Someone who cannot afford a place to live can receive subsidized housing that covers most of their rent.  Poor women with children can receive money, food, and medical care for their kids.  People who don't have medical plans can get free medical care through Medicaid and their state equivalents and at county hospitals.  People who are injured on the job can get paid (for not working) through workers' compensation.  People who become disabled can get disability benefits.  People who need new job skills can get free taxpayer funded job training.  People who cannot afford higher education can get thousands in government grants.  

Then there is the private sector, which is incredibly generous when it comes to donating time and money to help those in need.  

We do a tremendous amount to help the less fortunate.  

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2013, 10:21:27 AM »
Poverty no, but homelessness, people without medical help(psyhoclogical) living on the streets etc can be legislated away for the most part.



How do you legislate away homeless people with psychological problems?

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2013, 10:59:15 AM »
They don't have to be, why is it a fantasy? I am not saying people can have more then others, but there has to be a social floor and extreme poverty and inequality that exists is a stain on a civilized nation.

The US is not only not good but terrible in terms of inequality. There is no reason besides greed.

It is a fantasy because it cannot happen in reality. Like beach bum said in his post, the US does tons for its lower classes. American 'poor' would be upperclass in many other parts world; but doing too much creates a class of government dependant social and economic drains on the rest of us.
The closest we can get to the idyllic scenario you envision are some of the small northern european nations, with tiny, and homogenous, populations,  that (for the most part) share the same race, culture and ideology. Such a scenario is simply not feasable in a nation as huge, diverse and complex as the united states. Even when such huge nations do try to embrace full socialism (ussr, china) there is still inevitably mass povery and inequality

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2013, 11:43:14 AM »
Don't wary too much, French Foreign Legion can lend brigade or 2 if is needed  ;)

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2013, 12:10:27 PM »
How do you legislate away homeless people with psychological problems?

Euthanasia and an incinerator... :-\

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2013, 07:55:15 AM »
The people in the red states recieving all that money are urban dwelling democratic voters.

Source or link or gtfo


The people who recieve all that money do not vote republican. I think you are a little out of you element here whork

Of course i am we all are

, its hard for you to comment so much on america and american politics when you do not live here and your actual knowledge of both are pretty limited and show all the characterizations of someone raised on left wing european media when you are discussing your views of 'how things are' in the united states.

Example ?

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2013, 08:07:00 AM »
They don't have to be, why is it a fantasy? I am not saying people can have more then others, but there has to be a social floor and extreme poverty and inequality that exists is a stain on a civilized nation.

The US is not only not good but terrible in terms of inequality. There is no reason besides greed.
equality itself is a fantasy. people are not equal. there are literally people that would rather live under a bridge than to get off their ass and do something or give up their booze/drugs.

you may not have experienced this personally, but i have.

those people are not you equals and should not be treated as such.

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2013, 11:19:42 AM »
They don't have to be, why is it a fantasy? I am not saying people can have more then others, but there has to be a social floor and extreme poverty and inequality that exists is a stain on a civilized nation.

The US is not only not good but terrible in terms of inequality. There is no reason besides greed.

Stop looking in my pocket, you want to give your money to the poor....God bless you, but leave me the fuck alone!

I don't give what I earn to the lazy and stupid, I'd rather burn it.

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2013, 01:45:55 PM »
equality itself is a fantasy. people are not equal. there are literally people that would rather live under a bridge than to get off their ass and do something or give up their booze/drugs.

you may not have experienced this personally, but i have.

those people are not you equals and should not be treated as such.

Jesus, you are going to deep, you mean scumbags? sure lets kill um

Im a bit of an addict (smoke weed at night) and some of these people are sick or traumatized. honestly, I think I just take an opposing position to everyone on here to simply argue and sharpen my wit etc. I honestly agree with you.

I am also trolling a bit.

My cousin is a bum, we have taken him in and he steals a wedding ring, he ends up living in a tent, we take him in for one night until the city can take him, he steals money. We give him a job he steals, he is a chronic drug addict, scumbag but his father beat him mercilessly and his mother a bipolar.His solution is only curable by himself. However, if he cannot I don't think affording him basic living conditions is a bad thing. The trauma inflicted on him might have been to great to ever lead a normal life, hence a safety net. A social floor does exist, I just think it should be bolstered.


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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2013, 05:32:42 PM »
Euthanasia and an incinerator... :-\

Deportation could be answer, like in the good old days:
-English used penal colony of Botany Bay
-French, "French" Guiana
-Chileans, Easter Island
-Soviets, Siberian gulags
-Nazi plan was Madagascar,but ...Jews didn't like tropical climate  :P

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Re: Army chief: Just 2 brigades combat-ready
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2013, 06:11:48 PM »
Its a safety net designed as a temporary measure to catch people when they fall.  It was not intended as a means of life long support.
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