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Author Topic: how do you know if you need to up the roids or up your food intake?  (Read 1580 times)
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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2013, 11:00:44 AM »

If you're putting on more fat than muscle then obviously you don't want to up the calories anymore.
by then you are in a world of shit

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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2013, 11:10:32 AM »

Roids are better absorbed via intraocular injection.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2013, 12:40:02 PM »

Seriously, do you know how many calories per day you eat and the macro splits? If not, perhaps starting there would be good, you might be surprised.
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he pretends to dont know, but hes a smart guy, he knows exactly what hes doing.

it goes under the ppls radar that hes very lean all year.

that said, maybe hes really curious, or others are.

if you up the dosage, some more gains could happen on same foods.

if you up the food on same dosage, gains can happen, but one has to be honest as to when its too much fat that is gained.if that point is reached, up the dose.and maybe the food,a little bit.
that said, i dont count calories, after few years one knows what is too much or too little for them.
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2013, 04:22:00 PM »

Yeah would have thought it would be pretty obvious
If you're eating 2g/lb for protein, have lowish carbs and eat a natural human diet so no processed stuff and you're not getting fatter but not more muscular- the issue is clearly hormonal
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2013, 09:53:11 AM »

I simply can't shove food down these days, no appetite. However when running 4g of gear u better damn learn how to force yourself otherwise you are wasting your time (I did). Regardless a lean bulk always looks better in my opinion
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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2013, 12:09:44 PM »

Do not forget about rest/healing...I got up to clean and pressing 225 for one clean and 6 reps on the pres, but never could get above that no matter hard I tried...I wonder how much stronger i would get on that lift if i used PED's?
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2013, 04:29:14 PM »

I simply can't shove food down these days, no appetite. However when running 4g of gear u better damn learn how to force yourself otherwise you are wasting your time (I did). Regardless a lean bulk always looks better in my opinion

I used to be the same
I've been repeating this a lot lately but I follow a natural human diet and it's ketogenic
Because I don't have high levels of glucose in my blood, when I eat my insulin will spike which sends me a little hypo and makes me hungry. Normally in meals I get progressively hungrier and hungrier and will be hungry for a good 45 minutes post meal. It's not unusual on my high calorie days to eat 5,000kcal in one sitting

This here I made on Sunday, chicken wing rogan josh made with 2kg of wings. Also has 2 fingers of butter and a finger of beef lard in there which I used to cook it. 5,000kcal, 400g of protein and I ate it in 20 minutes lol. Had to snack on almonds later at night.

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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2013, 04:32:44 PM »

I used to be the same
I've been repeating this a lot lately but I follow a natural human diet and it's ketogenic
Because I don't have high levels of glucose in my blood, when I eat my insulin will spike which sends me a little hypo and makes me hungry. Normally in meals I get progressively hungrier and hungrier and will be hungry for a good 45 minutes post meal. It's not unusual on my high calorie days to eat 5,000kcal in one sitting

This here I made on Sunday, chicken wing rogan josh made with 2kg of wings. Also has 2 fingers of butter and a finger of beef lard in there which I used to cook it. 5,000kcal, 400g of protein and I ate it in 20 minutes lol. Had to snack on almonds later at night.


haha what the fuck am i reading

i feel like i'm entering a parallel universe
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2013, 04:50:30 PM »

haha what the fuck am i reading

i feel like i'm entering a parallel universe
yeah. To much science crammed up in too little space
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2013, 07:24:59 PM »

That is the least appetizing meal I've ever seen anyone post on this site  Grin
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2013, 08:04:03 PM »

That is the least appetizing meal I've ever seen anyone post on this site  Grin
when adonis is taking the piss, hes the best, how one can eat this and that, then follows up with some fake natty at 3% bodyfat to reinforce his point Grin

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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2013, 08:16:07 PM »

when adonis is taking the piss, hes the best, how one can eat this and that, then follows up with some fake natty at 3% bodyfat to reinforce his point Grin



hahah yeah

"eat 2500 cals of chocolate cake ...this guy does it and he's shredded...doesn't even do cardio, just sleeps all day"  lol
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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2013, 10:13:25 PM »

Curry is tasty
If you're struggling with hunger and eating less than 5,000kcal a day then you're doing something wrong
Too much of the wrong foods
Too little of the right foods
Liver enzymes too high
Drugs all wrong
Play around and find what works for you like I did
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2013, 09:17:49 AM »

Curry is tasty
If you're struggling with hunger and eating less than 5,000kcal a day then you're doing something wrong
Too much of the wrong foods
Too little of the right foods
Liver enzymes too high
Drugs all wrong
Play around and find what works for you like I did
curry sets my ass on fire. You do keep up with that bro?
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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2013, 08:26:52 PM »

curry sets my ass on fire. You do keep up with that bro?

Spicy food tastes amazing, lowers systemic inflammation (especially tumeric, ginger, cardamom, pepper, cinnamon) and kicks up your metabolic rate
I literally don't know why you wouldn't have your food as spicy as you can bear lol. I am normally pouring with sweat when I eat
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2013, 01:58:22 AM »

if you're getting fatter then you're eating too much, simple as that

a good goal for lean gains is bodyweightx15

i got RIPPED on bodyweightx12 but that was actually too low on cals for me

next cutting cycle i'll go to bodyweightx15
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