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« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2013, 01:05:16 PM »


They said it would destroy the US, that is was the worst law since slavery etc.



Do you know how to read?

When did they say that it would INSTANTLY destroy the US?

Do you understand the concept of "long term repercussions"?
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« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2013, 01:22:17 PM »

Again, Christie is your only hope (at this point in time) and he has some accomplishments which Repubs
Again, you don't know what you are talking/posting about.

All RINOS/moderates of the ilk of Christie, like Romney and McCain have ALL LOST because they can't seperate themselves from the dumocrats' policies. The media points out their hypocrisy like supporting or implementing crapcare type medical legislations, etc....

Only a true conservative will be able to totally differentiate himself from the democrats' party idiocy and ridicule liberal policy which will show the people that the democrats are far to the left and not right center, like obamatheclown fooled the nation into believing.
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« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2013, 01:26:37 PM »

They're all working on the Christie 2016 campaign.

They're well aware of the possibility of him stealing the nomination from conservatives that will actually make good changes for America.

If dems have hilary, or if they have christie, they're happy!   They are NOT happy with a Rand or Cruz, who will really fck up liberal policies. 
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« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2013, 02:27:37 PM »

You're all idiots for thinking one side is better than the other.

Hope this helps.

If you don't think one is better then you're not paying attention. The repubs that are in now are RINO's but now their starting to wake up and fight back. Not even Carter was this extreme or clueless.
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2013, 02:48:52 PM »

...a testament to Obamacare's success and to Obama's honesty?   Undecided
I came here to drop a line to Strawman but this...

The word is 'testimony' not 'testament'.

Second, the ACA is at heart a republican idea and the only reason the republicans hate it is b/c it's put forth by a jigaboo.

Third, there is no debate on this forum.  Posting link after link after link with 'Boom' or 'LMFAO' is not debate.  That is a personality disorder.

Finally, this:

Will Sen. Rand Paul, misunderstanding the voices of the undead, block the appointment of Janet Yellen to head the Federal Reserve Board?

No joke. Tea Party fave Paul told The Wall Street Journal he would have preferred Milton Friedman, the free-market fanatic, to the liberal-ish Yellen. But, as a stunned Journal reporter informed the senator, Milton Friedman is, alas, some years dead.

Unbowed, Paul contends he is channeling Friedman from beyond the grave, invoking the Nobel Prize economist to support the senator's quest against Yellen's well-known commitment to easy money policies at the Fed.

Paul has written, "One need not be an economist or mathematician to wonder whether printing money out of thin air is a sound way to help the economy."

You're more than correct, Senator. If you don't know why America is printing more dollar bills, then you definitely are not an economist nor a mathematician.

As a former student of the late professor Friedman, I'm quite certain that Milty would have been thrilled by Yellen's push to mainline more greenbacks into the US economy.

If you return to your séance, Senator, and ask Friedman's ghost about "printing money out of thin air," you'd find out he all but invented the idea. Or, throw away the Ouija Board and read Friedman's A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960, his Nobel-winning work, in which he argued convincingly that the Federal Reserve could have prevented the Great Depression had it radically pumped up the money supply.

Friedman's - and Yellen's - greatest fear is not inflation, but deflation, a disastrous fall in prices because of starving the economy of dollars.

Senator Paul moans that, since the market crash of 2008, the Federal Reserve has printed $3.6 trillion and dumped these dollar bills, ink still wet, into the financial system. Paul is waiting for the day when the printing of all these dollars suddenly will cause the price of a can of tuna to soar to $7,000.

But despite the Fed's smoking-hot printing press, the price of tuna is perilously close to falling. Price inflation today stands at a teeny-weeny 1.2 percent.

It's time for Senator Paul and daddy Congressman Ron Paul and their followers in gold-foil hats to admit that adding trillions to the money supply has not caused hyper-inflation. After a quarter-century of hysterical warnings from the two Pauls, the hyperinflation spaceship never landed and little green dollar men did not eat up the planet.

An Idiot's Guide to Gold-Buggery

The Pauls have told us horror stories of the German hyper-inflation of the early 1920s, when you had to schlep a wheelbarrow full of currency to buy a loaf of bread. The cure Paul père hawks, is a return to the gold standard, raising zombie economic theories from the grave, where Friedman buried them.

As Friedman warned, there's something far worse than having to pay for a loaf of bread with bags of currency, and that's having to pay for a loaf of bread with a bag of gold.

Notably, the Tea Party, not the guys in the goofy wigs on Fox TV, but the real one in Boston in 1773, was formed principally to protest King George's reimposing the gold standard on the colonies.

The colonies faced a crisis. Bricks of gold don't have babies; and so, when an economy grows rapidly as did early America, there simply is not enough money to represent that new trade and wealth because the currency is limited by a fixed and arbitrary amount of metal.

Here's why. When the money stock stays flat as production and work force grows, each dollar buys more of that production. Sounds good? No way. A monstrous fall in prices and wages means workers and businesses get less for their output and can't pay off old loans. To simplify: When a farmer borrows $100 for land and seed then sells his corn for $50, the farmer goes bust.

The American colonies faced such ruin when gold-backed currency was insufficient to fund our massive expansion. A revolutionary leader of the time explained the insurgent solution, "Happy for us that we fell upon the Project of giving a Credit to Paper."

Happy days ended when the British Parliament counterattacked with the Currency Act of 1764 that, "renders our Paper Money no legal Tender." King George, to shackle the States to the crown's metal-based currency, required purchasing a tax-stamp for each case of tea, which had to be paid for in His Majesty's "pounds sterling."

So the dissidents threw the tea into the ocean.

A century and a half later, after World War I, the British Parliament did it again, reimposing the gold standard. The United States and most of the world joined Britain in the golden noose. Economies strangled and dangled. The Great Depression eased only when FDR, in one of his first acts of office, rescued the United States, setting the dollar free of gold and letting fly the "Federal Reserve Note," created out of thin air - just like America itself.

And while your beloved Friedman did not care for the government caring for people's welfare via New Deal programs, my professor did praise FDR's printing press for expanding the money supply.

In today's hearing, Janet Yellen might remind the Senate of economist J.M. Keynes warning about, "Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back."

Senator Paul, if you are going to listen to the voices of deceased economists, at the least, listen carefully.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/20034-rand-pauls-zombie-nomics-versus-janet-yellen

Why that?  B/c the rightwing filth on this board is just like its wig-wearing frontman...long on mouth and short on brains
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« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2013, 02:50:55 PM »

LMFAO - so the liberal messiah implemented a GOP plan which SUCKS and that is the left wing defense of this scam? 
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« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2013, 03:09:47 PM »

LMFAO - so the liberal messiah implemented a GOP plan which SUCKS and that is the left wing defense of this scam? 
Ring the ass bell and look what shows up.

You need help.  I mean that with all of my heart. 

Your observations are the epitome of propagandized brainwashing and you play that role to the hilt.  Please tell me you are acting.  Otherwise the personality disorder observation is real.
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« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2013, 03:11:32 PM »

Ring the ass bell and look what shows up.

You need help.  I mean that with all of my heart. 

Your observations are the epitome of propagandized brainwashing and you play that role to the hilt.  Please tell me you are acting.  Otherwise the personality disorder observation is real.



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« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2013, 03:21:55 PM »

With each post Soul Crusher digs his psychological hole a little deeper.

But I'll play.

The ACA is not good.  It is better than any other republican plan out there.  Obama is a center right politician.  Sops to big insurance and promises to cut Socail Security are not hallmarks of a left winger.

So the 'liberal messiah' note is funny, very, very funny.  But it's not really accurate, is it?
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« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2013, 03:25:26 PM »

I came here to drop a line to Strawman but this...

The word is 'testimony' not 'testament'.

Second, the ACA is at heart a republican idea and the only reason the republicans hate it is b/c it's put forth by a jigaboo.

Third, there is no debate on this forum.  Posting link after link after link with 'Boom' or 'LMFAO' is not debate.  That is a personality disorder.

Finally, this:

Will Sen. Rand Paul, misunderstanding the voices of the undead, block the appointment of Janet Yellen to head the Federal Reserve Board?

No joke. Tea Party fave Paul told The Wall Street Journal he would have preferred Milton Friedman, the free-market fanatic, to the liberal-ish Yellen. But, as a stunned Journal reporter informed the senator, Milton Friedman is, alas, some years dead.

Unbowed, Paul contends he is channeling Friedman from beyond the grave, invoking the Nobel Prize economist to support the senator's quest against Yellen's well-known commitment to easy money policies at the Fed.

Paul has written, "One need not be an economist or mathematician to wonder whether printing money out of thin air is a sound way to help the economy."

You're more than correct, Senator. If you don't know why America is printing more dollar bills, then you definitely are not an economist nor a mathematician.

As a former student of the late professor Friedman, I'm quite certain that Milty would have been thrilled by Yellen's push to mainline more greenbacks into the US economy.

If you return to your séance, Senator, and ask Friedman's ghost about "printing money out of thin air," you'd find out he all but invented the idea. Or, throw away the Ouija Board and read Friedman's A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960, his Nobel-winning work, in which he argued convincingly that the Federal Reserve could have prevented the Great Depression had it radically pumped up the money supply.

Friedman's - and Yellen's - greatest fear is not inflation, but deflation, a disastrous fall in prices because of starving the economy of dollars.

Senator Paul moans that, since the market crash of 2008, the Federal Reserve has printed $3.6 trillion and dumped these dollar bills, ink still wet, into the financial system. Paul is waiting for the day when the printing of all these dollars suddenly will cause the price of a can of tuna to soar to $7,000.

But despite the Fed's smoking-hot printing press, the price of tuna is perilously close to falling. Price inflation today stands at a teeny-weeny 1.2 percent.

It's time for Senator Paul and daddy Congressman Ron Paul and their followers in gold-foil hats to admit that adding trillions to the money supply has not caused hyper-inflation. After a quarter-century of hysterical warnings from the two Pauls, the hyperinflation spaceship never landed and little green dollar men did not eat up the planet.

An Idiot's Guide to Gold-Buggery

The Pauls have told us horror stories of the German hyper-inflation of the early 1920s, when you had to schlep a wheelbarrow full of currency to buy a loaf of bread. The cure Paul père hawks, is a return to the gold standard, raising zombie economic theories from the grave, where Friedman buried them.

As Friedman warned, there's something far worse than having to pay for a loaf of bread with bags of currency, and that's having to pay for a loaf of bread with a bag of gold.

Notably, the Tea Party, not the guys in the goofy wigs on Fox TV, but the real one in Boston in 1773, was formed principally to protest King George's reimposing the gold standard on the colonies.

The colonies faced a crisis. Bricks of gold don't have babies; and so, when an economy grows rapidly as did early America, there simply is not enough money to represent that new trade and wealth because the currency is limited by a fixed and arbitrary amount of metal.

Here's why. When the money stock stays flat as production and work force grows, each dollar buys more of that production. Sounds good? No way. A monstrous fall in prices and wages means workers and businesses get less for their output and can't pay off old loans. To simplify: When a farmer borrows $100 for land and seed then sells his corn for $50, the farmer goes bust.

The American colonies faced such ruin when gold-backed currency was insufficient to fund our massive expansion. A revolutionary leader of the time explained the insurgent solution, "Happy for us that we fell upon the Project of giving a Credit to Paper."

Happy days ended when the British Parliament counterattacked with the Currency Act of 1764 that, "renders our Paper Money no legal Tender." King George, to shackle the States to the crown's metal-based currency, required purchasing a tax-stamp for each case of tea, which had to be paid for in His Majesty's "pounds sterling."

So the dissidents threw the tea into the ocean.

A century and a half later, after World War I, the British Parliament did it again, reimposing the gold standard. The United States and most of the world joined Britain in the golden noose. Economies strangled and dangled. The Great Depression eased only when FDR, in one of his first acts of office, rescued the United States, setting the dollar free of gold and letting fly the "Federal Reserve Note," created out of thin air - just like America itself.

And while your beloved Friedman did not care for the government caring for people's welfare via New Deal programs, my professor did praise FDR's printing press for expanding the money supply.

In today's hearing, Janet Yellen might remind the Senate of economist J.M. Keynes warning about, "Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back."

Senator Paul, if you are going to listen to the voices of deceased economists, at the least, listen carefully.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/20034-rand-pauls-zombie-nomics-versus-janet-yellen

Why that?  B/c the rightwing filth on this board is just like its wig-wearing frontman...long on mouth and short on brains

So the GOP hates it because Obama is black? lol. K
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« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2013, 03:29:00 PM »

"Obama is center right"

We have a live one here folks.
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« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2013, 04:00:32 PM »

Again, you don't know what you are talking/posting about.

All RINOS/moderates of the ilk of Christie, like Romney and McCain have ALL LOST because they can't seperate themselves from the dumocrats' policies. The media points out their hypocrisy like supporting or implementing crapcare type medical legislations, etc....

Only a true conservative will be able to totally differentiate himself from the democrats' party idiocy and ridicule liberal policy which will show the people that the democrats are far to the left and not right center, like obamatheclown fooled the nation into believing.

I'll try to make this easier for you to understand

If Christie loses it will by a lesser margin than Cruz or Rand Paul

Try also to keep in mind that Christie just won re-election in a blue state

Look at his demographics in this election compared to his last election

He got 51% of the Hispanic vote, 21% of the black vote and 49% of voters 18-29

This is the ONLY guy (at the present time) who can win a National Election for your  party but you (and no doubt many in your party are just too stupid to understand it)

http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/new-jersey/exit-polls.html

I'm actually glad that you don't agree with this and I hope your party chooses Cruz or Rand as the nominee

It will be a guaranteed win for the Dems and you and the other Repubs will be left scratching their heads the day after the election, dumbfounded and wondering why the country didn't want to vote for the Tea Bay wing nut
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« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2013, 04:05:03 PM »


Obama is a center right politician.  Sops to big insurance and promises to cut Socail Security are not hallmarks of a left winger.


This is 100% correct but I never read this on this board so I've just stayed away from saying it.

TBH, the people who parrot that ignorant crap about how Obama is the most extreme socialist blah, blah, blah only means that they are only listening to Fox news and are doing no thinking of their own.

The people who correctly make the observation that Obama is actually center-right in political orientation are most commonly people from other countries where left means left and right means right.


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« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2013, 04:11:20 PM »

"Obama is center right"

We have a live one here folks.

No, Coach.  He's correct.  Believe it or not, and I know you won't hear that on Fox, but he's right. 

When you disagree you're showing that you haven't studied politics seriously nor have you even really followed it for very long.

I am not trying to put you down. 

Look at Reagan's policies and ask yourself, how would he be characterized (in terms of political orientation) these days? 
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« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2013, 05:14:18 PM »

This is 100% correct but I never read this on this board so I've just stayed away from saying it.

TBH, the people who parrot that ignorant crap about how Obama is the most extreme socialist blah, blah, blah only means that they are only listening to Fox news and are doing no thinking of their own.

The people who correctly make the observation that Obama is actually center-right in political orientation are most commonly people from other countries where left means left and right means right.




Absurd.  He's about as far left as you can get and still be elected in DC, both socially and fiscally.  Class warfare, bigger government, spending, taxing, etc.  Socially, he's a liberal down the board.   
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« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2013, 05:21:25 PM »

Absurd.  He's about as far left as you can get and still be elected in DC, both socially and fiscally.  Class warfare, bigger government, spending, taxing, etc.

Post some sources or GTFO.

You are a Mod and cant even abide to this? WTF??



No wonder this board i going to shit sometimes.

Socially, he's a liberal down the board.   
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« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2013, 05:35:46 PM »



Where is your source or links for the above statements?
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« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2013, 05:36:32 PM »

Absurd.  He's about as far left as you can get and still be elected in DC, both socially and fiscally.  Class warfare, bigger government, spending, taxing, etc.  Socially, he's a liberal down the board.   

you have chosen to forget that the government expanded under Bush (and Reagan) but has actually shrunk under Obama.  

No lack of class warfare or out of control spending with Bush either.

Obama wins on drone strikes though (which  I suspect you would have no problem with if he were a Republican)
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« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2013, 05:41:30 PM »

Where is your source or links for the above statements?

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« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2013, 05:52:54 PM »





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But im the troll Huh Is this the twilight zone or something?
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« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2013, 06:04:08 PM »

...a testament to Obamacare's success and to Obama's honesty?   Undecided

People think I am a liberal and I have been posting.

I don't believe Obama has been dishonest with regards to people being able to keep their substandard current coverage. I think he promised something he had no ability to deliver on. I would suggest that he was ill advised. I know the medical insurance industry is going to do everything they can to ensure Obamacare doesn't work.

At this point there are so many problems with the rollout of Obamacare, I am not sure it will be successful, unfortunately. Something about how healthcare is delivered in the U.S. needs to change. We currently rank the worst of all developed nations when it comes to universal healthcare.

If I were younger, I would seriously consider moving to a different country, such as Germany where the healthcare system covers everyone, the medical costs are lower and one can become a doctor without having to spend nearly $1,000,000. on their advanced education achieve this because, guess what, Germany has a educational system which is also available to all, unlike here where it is for the rich or those willing to go into debt for most of the rest of their working lives.
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But im the troll Huh Is this the twilight zone or something?


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« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2013, 06:32:04 PM »

People think I am a liberal and I have been posting.

I don't believe Obama has been dishonest with regards to people being able to keep their substandard current coverage. I think he promised something he had no ability to deliver on. I would suggest that he was ill advised. I know the medical insurance industry is going to do everything they can to ensure Obamacare doesn't work.

At this point there are so many problems with the rollout of Obamacare, I am not sure it will be successful, unfortunately. Something about how healthcare is delivered in the U.S. needs to change. We currently rank the worst of all developed nations when it comes to universal healthcare.

If I were younger, I would seriously consider moving to a different country, such as Germany where the healthcare system covers everyone, the medical costs are lower and one can become a doctor without having to spend nearly $1,000,000. on their advanced education achieve this because, guess what, Germany has a educational system which is also available to all, unlike here where it is for the rich or those willing to go into debt for most of the rest of their working lives.

I hope it collapses.  We can address problems with the system without socializing the system.
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« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2013, 06:38:38 PM »

Absurd.  He's about as far left as you can get and still be elected in DC, both socially and fiscally.  Class warfare, bigger government, spending, taxing, etc.  Socially, he's a liberal down the board.    

Bum - I'm going to help you so you won't have to keep repeating that particular lie anymore

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/


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