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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2013, 03:01:21 PM »
English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...

yeah, but you still see enough of the bastards. plus the cunts are being crossed with mastiffs now which makes them not banned

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2013, 03:03:31 PM »

really? that's funny cause labs poodles and shelties bite people every day?  ???

in fact the poodle records more bites a year on humans than any other breed???



maybe, but your comparing a paper cut to an axe wound


English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...


bulls and staffys are more domesticated and are an established breed, pits are pure unstable fighting dogs that have no place in a family home, id go as far to say you are totaly responsible if a family member or neighbour is killed by one, just for the sake of having a 'hard' dog

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2013, 03:08:13 PM »
English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...
because the American pitbull terrier has such a bad rap because of shit like this that its not recognized by AKC but is by CKC and ABDA, pitbull is a classification of any one of the bully breeds or mixed with anyone of the breeds ,,,,,, almost all the bad things are done by non registered or official paper dogs with no pedigree ........there is an AMstaff and the only thing that makes it different is a paper pedigree that states it is an AMstaff and came from only AMstaff. these designer bullys that you pay 1500-6000 for are bred as show pieces for their muscle structure or head size and are not of a pure bloodline but are a mix of staffys, mastiff, bull terriers and some times boston terriers .... I believe it takes 4 generations of a designed breed to be considered a bloodline. I hate thes dirty crap pits that are just created to be chained in the back yard and neglected .. I would consider myself a bully snob, duel registered blue blood line designer APBT I had a dirty bred one and it was my dog as in it was one person owner and she was scary I had to pry her mouth off of dogs more then a few times , we did put her down and if my 2000 dollar male shows those signs I will do the same to him .... but he is already 8 so I don't think he will go bad but he is a hard headed fuck head

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2013, 03:12:36 PM »

yes of course it is  ::)... i had him mixing with dogs from a puppy with no problems, i was told from other bull owner this would happen when they hit around 2 yr old and i didnt believe them

i stand by this too

either aggressive with dogs or with people or with both, its in there nature as a FIGHTING dog

just as its in jack russels nature to run down rabbit holes
Yes of course, the magical "2 year old curse". ::)
Still your fault. You probably got lazy, tired of walking and playing with him.
Now tell me how I'm wrong and you spent so much time with him. ::)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2013, 03:16:28 PM »

really? that's funny cause labs poodles and shelties bite people every day?  ???

in fact the poodle records more bites a year on humans than any other breed???



Hmmmmm, I still don't recall reading about poodles and labs eating their owners, or anyone for that matter.  Can you point me in the right direction?   ???

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2013, 03:19:59 PM »
maybe, but your comparing a paper cut to an axe wound



bulls and staffys are more domesticated and are an established breed, pits are pure unstable fighting dogs that have no place in a family home, id go as far to say you are totaly responsible if a family member or neighbour is killed by one, just for the sake of having a 'hard' dog
English Staffys (And Irish Staffys) look just like the archetypical Pit Bull. And the English Staffy is from which the American Staffy and American pit bull come from. The English Bull Terrier was a fighting dog, that didn't do too well (from what I have read).

In the UK they still use English Staffys for fighting, and in the US they do as well. The reason why I said what I said, is that they (UK) don't want to ban their own breeds that are still being used for fighting, and only ban dogs which are labelled as "Am Pitbulls". And since English Staffys have the same "look", animals either bought for fighting or captured for fighting can be identified as "Am Pitbulls". Therefore, the blame is always on the Pitbull and the English Staffy can slip under the radar.

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2013, 03:24:19 PM »
Hmmmmm, I still don't recall reading about poodles and labs eating their owners, or anyone for that matter.  Can you point me in the right direction?   ???

sure bro hope this helps  ??? that does say labs doesnt it  ???

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2013, 03:27:53 PM »
http://www.examiner.com/article/child-attacked-by-dog-latest-incident-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-pit-bulls

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Hmmmmm, I still don't recall reading about poodles and labs eating their owners, or anyone for that matter.  Can you point me in the right direction?   ???

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2013, 03:32:51 PM »
Hmm, since many Chinese middle class are now buying a lot of dogs due to having disposable income, and trying to be like their Western counterparts, I wonder how long it's gonna take for the tirades to get involved in importing Pitbulls for dog fighting---because if there is money in it, then they will figure out a way to do it. Which means we will be hearing more reports of Pit specific bites on people. Especially those who do not understand the breed---and dogs in general.

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2013, 03:47:34 PM »
We walk our 75 pound male Labradoodle 4-5 days a week on mountain trails, sometimes very narrow trails. We run into a dozen or so leashed dogs of every breed every time out. ONLY the Pits bare their teeth, growl and lerch at our dog. Last week there were two Pits walking with their small framed Hispanic owners. The owners, male and a female, almost fell over into the rocks holding back their attacking Pits. I'm thinking about packing…thank God its legal here in Arizona.

But then on the other hand outside the market last night was a tethered fawn colored female Pit with a gray circle around one eye. Not only was she a tail wagging sweetheart she was very pretty. The owner must have known. Doggie Valium?

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2013, 03:59:02 PM »
We walk our 75 pound male Labradoodle 4-5 days a week on mountain trails, sometimes very narrow trails. We run into a dozen or so leashed dogs of every breed every time out. ONLY the Pits bare their teeth, growl and lerch at our dog. Last week there were two Pits walking with their small framed Hispanic owners. The owners, male and a female, almost fell over into the rocks holding back their attacking Pits. I'm thinking about packing…thank God its legal here in Arizona.

But then on the other hand outside the market last night was a tethered fawn colored female Pit with a gray circle around one eye. Not only was she a tail wagging sweetheart she was very pretty. The owner must have known. Doggie Valium?
its a hit and miss situation they are not all bad but there is too many that are I love mine but he will be my last PITBULL I'm liking the french bullys or a really bear Boston or a mini bull terrier

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2013, 04:10:21 PM »
it makes me laugh my balls off when people become shocked and amazed when an attack dog, attacks somebody... ::)   hello

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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2013, 04:10:52 PM »
Dog was probably not socialized. Probably was kept chained up and forgotten in the backyard.
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2013, 04:15:52 PM »
Dog was probably not socialized. Probably was kept chained up and forgotten in the backyard.

Probably  ::)

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2013, 04:19:02 PM »
sure bro hope this helps  ??? that does say labs doesnt it  ???

from Wikipedia
Oh Brother, wikipedia.  The fact is, Labradors have been responsible for 3 dog bite related fatalities in the history of TIME and poodles responsible for 1.  Combined, That's the same amount of dog bite related fatalities attributed to pitbulls this past week
 
November 8 Levi Watson 4 years old killed by multiple pitbulls while Mother was visiting a friend

November 4 Katherine Atkins 25 years old, killed by her boy friends two pitbulls when she was feeeding them, something she had done many times before.

November 2 Terry Douglass 56 years old, killed by her own pitbull

November 1 Nga Woodhead 65 years old, killed by two pitbulls while out walking, good samaritan was also seriously injured trying to save her

So far this year, pitbulls have killed 23 people, totalling 90% of this years dog bite related fatalities. The recent study "Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs 2011" determined that 1 person is killed by a pit bull every 14 days, a person loses a body part to a pit bull attack every 5.4 days, 2 persons are injured by pit bulls each day, and 1.5 pit bulls are shot to death each day.

There was a similar pitbull attack story to the one listed in the title of this thread earlier this year.  Linda Henry was seriously injured by her own pit bulls and lost both her arms as well as many other serious injuries.

People like to believe "it's how you raise them' because that belief gives them a certain psychological reward when they feel they have tamed a wild beast, or that they are ALPHA over a powerful animal, when all that has happened is they own a pitbull that has had the game bred out of it.  They also have zero understanding of the way genes work and how certain behavioural traits are bred in and not trained in.  

To test this, take a Pointer whose parents are good hunting dogs. Raise him for a year without ever letting him see a bird. Now put him in a field full of pheasants and see what he does. He’ll point. He doesn’t need training, encouragement or coercion to cause him to point. His genes have passed along a specific behavior - if you smell a bird, freeze. Pointers who possess  this innate reaction sell for very high prices. Try telling a hunter that he paid $10,000 for a finished field Pointer that had to be taught to point.  He’ll laugh at you. He paid a premium  for a pedigree that assured his dog’s potential for excellence

The whole time there are two competing interests involved in breeding these dogs, those who breed to keep the game in, and those who try and breed the game out, the situation will continue to be unpredictable and pitbulls will continue to kill someone every few weeks in between maiming and mauling every other day.

Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs 2011 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_TQhn0TrPSba3p4NW5CT09ZX0E/edit?usp=sharing
Dog attack deaths and maimings,  U.S. & Canada September 1982 to May 25,  2013 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_TQhn0TrPSbenlWVkQwY2kwbDA/edit?usp=sharing
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2013, 04:19:46 PM »
its not the dog it the environment it is raised in.


"Range Road is in a neighborhood of tidy suburban homes, but the red house at number 77 has fallen on hard times. The garage door is mostly missing; a picket fence covers the opening. The electricity meter has a shut-off tag affixed to it.

On the front stoop is a large plastic tub, partially filled with water, into which a winter coat was draped. The front yard is covered in brambles and the mailbox hadn't been emptied in days.

Neighbors said they had never met Anne Murray and that the family kept to themselves. Police said she lives with her twin 26-year-old sons.

"Technically, the dog belonged to one of the sons," Wakeman said. "The sons weren't home all the time, so she took care of the dog when they weren't there. Why the dog turned on her, we don't know."


if i have to draw a parallel here for you, then its just not worth debating.

Didn't even read this or the story before my previous post. I was right. Neglected house. Neglected dog.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2013, 04:20:23 PM »
all dog breeds bite stuff, some are more powerful

anyway,the woman still got 1 arm,right?

so she can now apply the an eye for an eye policy.

nod amage done.

seriously, chances are ,she or someone else has abused the dog previously.

dogs came evolutionary into being from wolfs, those are dangerous animals, the little bit wolf will always be in dogs.

igf you want be sure to naot have arm bitten off(did she even lift btw?weak ass, wolfox-level arms,how can a arm be ripped of if its jacked)then dont have a dog.

if the bitch had the dog to intimidate ppl, then this is sweet karma.

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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2013, 04:29:20 PM »
Pits need to be socialized. They aren't your average breed. Their history is one of work, fighting and hunting. Physically they are amazing dogs. No breed like it on this planet. No quit in a game pit. Got to admire them.
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2013, 04:34:26 PM »
Didn't even read this or the story before my previous post. I was right. Neglected house. Neglected dog.
Do you really believe that for a domesticated dog, that neglect is all that is needed to turn it into a raging killer.  There are countless dogs that are neglected that will never attempt to maim, maul and kill a human being.  This is part of the problem, people have grown up thinking that dogs mauling people to death is NORMAL, this is the domain of fighting breeds like pitbulls and a handful of other 'manstopper' breeds.  Pitbulls don't need an excuse to fight until the death, if they did they would have made terrible pit fighting fogs.  They have been deliberately bred to be willing to fight at any time, to hide their attack and to attack efficiently, causing maximum damage in the shortest period of time.

You really need to learn about artificial selection and the role of genetics in behavioural traits.  It's human vanity and ego that thinks that genetics is irrelevant and they can overcome anything with some training and discipline.  I could cite two relevant studies involving foxes and wolves, but I don't think the average getbigger has the intelligence, or is too steeped in pitbull propaganda to even begin to comprehend it.
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2013, 04:36:18 PM »
Pits need to be socialized. They aren't your average breed. Their history is one of work, fighting and hunting. Physically they are amazing dogs. No breed like it on this planet. No quit in a game pit. Got to admire them.
Yeah, regularly maiming, mauling and killing children is real admirable.
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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2013, 04:41:02 PM »
Do you really believe that for a domesticated dog, that neglect is all that is needed to turn it into a raging killer.  There are countless dogs that are neglected that will never attempt to maim, maul and kill a human being.  This is part of the problem, people have grown up thinking that dogs mauling people to death is NORMAL, this is the domain of fighting breeds like pitbulls and a handful of other 'manstopper' breeds.  Pitbulls don't need an excuse to fight until the death, if they did they would have made terrible pit fighting fogs.  They have been deliberately bred to be willing to fight at any time, to hide their attack and to attack efficiently, causing maximum damage in the shortest period of time.

You really need to learn about artificial selection and the role of genetics in behavioural traits.  It's human vanity and ego that thinks that genetics is irrelevant and they can overcome anything with some training and discipline.  I could cite two relevant studies involving foxes and wolves, but I don't think the average getbigger has the intelligence, or is too steeped in pitbull propaganda to even begin to comprehend it.

I'm guessing you didn't see my previous post?

But just fyi not all pits are born with that innate gameness in them. I've owned enough pits and been around them my whole life so i know this.

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2013, 04:42:44 PM »
Yeah, regularly maiming, mauling and killing children is real admirable.

I'm not for or against pitbulls...but, they're fucking pitbulls. I would never own one.

"They make such great family dogs..they are so loyal"  hahahaha. .they were bred to kill things you nitwit..one day it's little doggie brain might decide to kill YOU.  no thanks...LOL.

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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2013, 04:44:15 PM »
Yeah, regularly maiming, mauling and killing children is real admirable.

Sounds like an emotional reply.  Can't argue with someone crying.
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« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2013, 04:47:47 PM »
I'm guessing you didn't see my previous post?

But just fyi not all pits are born with that innate gameness in them. I've owned enough pits and been around them my whole life so i know this.


So what.  Very few drunk drivers ever harm or kill anybody, doesn't make drink driving any less of a risk.  Very few vermin spread disease or harm or kill anyone, yet you are free to kill as many of them as you like.  And the point you make is the very problem, due to so few being a risk, it is impossible to predict with any certainty which pitbull will be next to attack and cause serious injury or death.  Everyone would be safer if ALL pitbulls were dangerous, then society would just take the same measures they do with dangerous wild animals like lions or bears.  The whole issue is the two competing interests, the do gooders attempting to convert a fighting breed into a companion animal and those who continue to breed for the dogs original purpose and keep the game in.

The do-gooders should have never touched the breed, they are the problem.  It was a nice fairy tale,  Goodness turns violent fighting dog into sweet gentle companion animal, only it didn't work out like that.  Now pitbull fatalities are inevitable, and have gone from an average of 5 a year in the 1980's to over 18 a year in the 2000's and climbing.
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« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2013, 04:49:12 PM »
I've been bitten by a shitzu, chihuahua, a rabbit and a turtle. Never in my life have I been bitten by a pit bull.
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