Stand Your Ground Law's Latest Victim

[240 is Back]

it sounds like he pretty much lawyered up right away

Interesting.  They can still get a nice statement from him later in the week with the lawyer present.  A lot of lawyers WILL let him give responses of why he shot, hoping to concoct a clean enough story to avoid getting charged. 

It'd be cool to hear the 911 call, to know if he lawyered up fast, or if he gave other statements in the days afterwards.  He shot the dude in middle of night.  No doubt he was up all night, called into work (assuming he works), slept a few hours, and they were ready to hammer him some more.

[tonymctones]

LOL tell the truth 240, you have a slight mental disability dont you

[24KT]

1) you dont have to be within spittle range to be confronted
2) there was a confrontation between the two men, you can call it an encounter if it fits within that closed mind of yours if you want.

Oh ya, I can see it now...    I was confronted by a SHADOW, so I killed it dead   

[24KT]

I certainly wouldn't blame the person who was shot, 24KT. He was ill and unable to properly control himself.

He was also misplaced on that property, however, and Hendrix was not. I can't imagine anyone trying to differentiate anything further than that in this case, especially with Hendrix and the woman being partners.

There is no indication Westbrook had any difficulty controlling himself.
Infact, it appears the only one having difficulty controlling himself was Hendrix.

Being misplaced or lost is not a reason to be murdered.

[24KT]

A dude visiting a home where his girlfriend lived shot a dude in the side yard for not obeying his command.

Only in Georgia lol...

Honestly, in Iraq, in battle, that's how it would go down.  You locate the enemy unknown, you give an order to stop moving, and even if the language is different, if he advances, you triple tap him center mass and drop him.  On the other side of the world, he'd be fine doing it.  He was (probably) quite annoyed at police taking so long to arrive, went out there, and when the adrenaline kicked in, his training returned.  He handled it very much like one would in field, right? 

Maybe he's preparing the PTSD defense...which would throw the self-defense thing out the window.  Once we hear the 911 tapes, self-defense may have sailed anyway.

it's long past "tragic mistake"... traveled into side yard to give orders, fired on a shadow that didn't listen, and he didn't even live there...

That's precisely what I was thinking. A jacked up "authoritarian type" inadequate at transitioning to civilian life. His action might have been permissible in an active war zone, but unacceptable in a civilized environment. I don't think the 911 tapes will reveal much. Hendrix never spoke with 911, only the girlfriend did, ...still it might yield some evidence that could be used against him... Hopefully.

[24KT]

Man, if someone can't see the attempts at power-shifting in this country, then I don't know whether to envy that person, or despise that person, or what the fuck.

Really can't believe half the shit I see these days. It just kills me.

Pretty messed up isn't it.

[24KT]

When you think of the pure power of a sufficiently unified people, it shouldn't take much insight from there...

Common interests are seen as common interests FOR A REASON. From Straw Man to Coach, we share these ideas.

It takes quite the trickery bag to keep us sidetracked. Yet day in, and day out, we remain off course.

With all the paid trolls sent out throughout the Internet to sow mischief and create divisiveness, not to mention all the smart meters dumbing people down, I'm surprised even more people aren't messed up in their thinking.

[Archer77]

With all the paid trolls sent out throughout the Internet to sow mischief and create divisiveness, not to mention all the smart meters dumbing people down, I'm surprised even more people aren't messed up in their thinking.

You whack the irony mirror with a hammer each time you post.

[tonymctones]

Oh ya, I can see it now...    I was confronted by a SHADOW, so I killed it dead   

LMFAO call it what you want convict, fact is there was a confrontation

[24KT]

If he has a residence elsewhere, you can see where someone gets the idea. Right?

By the way, 24KT: Where did you get that info?

I got it from the following AP article, from which many other news articles are created.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/suffering-alzheimers-ga-man-fatally-shot

It clearly states the 'SHE moved into HER new rental home.'  and that ' Hendrix took a GLOCK handgun that he kept in his apartment, and brought it to his fiancée's home'

In addition to being  a bellicose buffoon, it appears Tony has a reading comprehension problem as well. Infact, one could even say he appears retarded, given how slow he is.

[OzmO]

So it wasn't his property?  he wasn't renting it?


That throws a kink in some people's argument.

[Dos Equis]

Something of interest: The sheriff that said he "had no doubt" Hendrix was fearful, is in fact a friend of Hendrix.

Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but he probably should have been more careful against offering quotes like that.

Sheriff Wilson told Chattanooga Times that he knew Mr Westbrook, who attended the same church as him.
‘Just a fine man, fine family,’ Sheriff Wilson said. ‘I really hate it for his wife and his children.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517938/Neighbor-shot-Air-Force-veteran-advanced-Alzheimers-use-stand-ground-law-charged.html#ixzz2neqeoUYO

[Jack T. Cross]

I got it from the following AP article, from which many other news articles are created.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/suffering-alzheimers-ga-man-fatally-shot

It clearly states the 'SHE moved into HER new rental home.'  and that ' Hendrix took a GLOCK handgun that he kept in his apartment, and brought it to his fiancée's home'

In addition to being  a bellicose buffoon, it appears Tony has a reading comprehension problem as well. Infact, one could even say he appears retarded, given how slow he is.

I definitely see how you came to the conclusion you did, 24KT. Thank you for that. (still don't think anyone is trying to use that angle against him, though, and I don't believe it would be a successful angle)

[Dos Equis]

So it wasn't his property?  he wasn't renting it?


That throws a kink in some people's argument.

Not mine.   

[Dos Equis]

So I just checked online and didn't see anything about Hendrix being charged.  Jag, why did you say he had already been charged?  Or that a decision has already been made to charge him?

[Jack T. Cross]

Sheriff Wilson told Chattanooga Times that he knew Mr Westbrook, who attended the same church as him.
‘Just a fine man, fine family,’ Sheriff Wilson said. ‘I really hate it for his wife and his children.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517938/Neighbor-shot-Air-Force-veteran-advanced-Alzheimers-use-stand-ground-law-charged.html#ixzz2neqeoUYO

I suppose in rural Georgia, it certainly isn't unheard of, that a Sheriff would share some history with a person that found himself in a situation like this.

[OzmO]

Not mine.   

But Beach, you don't really have much of an argument, and being that "he was on his property" was part of yours it weakens even more.

At the end of the day we have a man who shot some one for no good reason, something a reasonable man wouldn't have seen as a imminent threat of danger, death or injury.

the fact, if true, that that wasn't even his property shows just how much of a over eager, irresponsible man hendrix is.  And it resulted in the shooting of an innocent man who was doing nothing wrong.  Except maybe trespassing.

[OzmO]

I know it sounds shitty but yea...as he didnt have any burden of duty/liability (he didnt break the law) this doesnt get factored in.

That doesn't sound right at all.

I am not a lawyer, are you?  Are you going to law school?  I am not asking this to be a smart ass, just trying to add credibility to your POV or interpretation of law.

It would seem to me that if you include the events leading up to the shooting as reason to be fearful enough to justify Hendrix's actions, you must take into account all the events, not just the ones that lend support to POV of innocence or guilt.

[Dos Equis]

But Beach, you don't really have much of an argument, and being that "he was on his property" was part of yours it weakens even more.

At the end of the day we have a man who shot some one for no good reason, something a reasonable man wouldn't have seen as a imminent threat of danger, death or injury.

the fact, if true, that that wasn't even his property shows just how much of a over eager, irresponsible man hendrix is.  And it resulted in the shooting of an innocent man who was doing nothing wrong.  Except maybe trespassing.

It doesn't matter if he was on the lease.  Even if it was solely his fiancé's apartment, and she just moved into it, then obviously he was going to be moving into it after they got married, unless their wedding date is like five years from now.  Really doesn't affect the analysis at all IMO.

I doubt he was just having a sleepover.   

[Jack T. Cross]

Seems to me, without any further information, the only potential angle on this guy would be to show that it is too unlikely, or too unreasonable, that he could have experienced such a level of fear as to do as he did. That's it.

Personally, I have a HUGE problem with the way Hendrix handled himself. He was thoughtless, mindless, all the way around.

I can only say that, if you're responsible for a person with dementia, and especially in a place like Georgia, make sure you are able to hear your door alarms no matter what, even if you're in deep sleep (as his wife probably was). Your loved one may be killed, otherwise. That's the reality.

[240 is Back]

My guess.... and only a guess...

They're talking with hendrix's attorney, trying to reach an agreement... suspended sentence, involuntary manslaughter, something like that... They don't wanna charge murder, but to do NOTHING is pretty weak too.

Smart play for everyone is to take a slap on wrist, suspended sentence, 2 years of probation and maybe counseling, and let everyone claim a win.   This is a rental home in rural GA, not exactly rich folks here.  Just agree to something minor that won't destroy his life, and get on with it.

[OzmO]

Seems to me, without any further information, the only potential angle on this guy would be to show that it is too unlikely, or too unreasonable, that he could have experienced such a level of fear as to do as he did. That's it.

Personally, I have a HUGE problem with the way Hendrix handled himself. He was thoughtless, mindless, all the way around.

I can only say that, if you're responsible for a person with dementia, and especially in a place like Georgia, make sure you are able to hear your door alarms no matter what, even if you're in deep sleep (as his wife probably was). Your loved one may be killed, otherwise. That's the reality.

Its appalling.  Hendrix actions are irresponsible and shows he shot the man with little or no reason to believe he was in imminent danger from death or injury.

My guess.... and only a guess...

They're talking with hendrix's attorney, trying to reach an agreement... suspended sentence, involuntary manslaughter, something like that... They don't wanna charge murder, but to do NOTHING is pretty weak too.

Smart play for everyone is to take a slap on wrist, suspended sentence, 2 years of probation and maybe counseling, and let everyone claim a win.   This is a rental home in rural GA, not exactly rich folks here.  Just agree to something minor that won't destroy his life, and get on with it.

I do not see how they can charge murder.  The best that can be charged is involuntary manslaughter.

But they sure are taking their time

[OzmO]

It doesn't matter if he was on the lease.  Even if it was solely his fiancé's apartment, and she just moved into it, then obviously he was going to be moving into it after they got married, unless their wedding date is like five years from now.  Really doesn't affect the analysis at all IMO.

I doubt he was just having a sleepover.   

It seemed to affect it here:

Also, it would be a much different situation if he wasn't on his own property. 

[Jack T. Cross]

Its appalling.  Hendrix actions are irresponsible and shows he shot the man with little or no reason to believe he was in imminent danger from death or injury.

His behavior doesn't make sense. There's something that doesn't connect between where he was, and where he ended up, doing what he was doing. Something is wrong.

It concerns me that he'd been friendly with the Sheriff, too, because it means he may have gotten unusual treatment. (Instead of trying to trick him into hanging himself, as is usual, did the Sheriff feel compelled to advise Hendrix in any way?)

[OzmO]

His behavior doesn't make sense. There's something that doesn't connect between where he was, and where he ended up, doing what he was doing. Something is wrong.

It concerns me that he'd been friendly with the Sheriff, too, because it means he may have gotten unusual treatment. (Instead of trying to trick him into hanging himself, as is usual, did the Sheriff feel compelled to advise Hendrix in any way?)

If he has PTSD does his behavior makes sense?

And what unusual treatment did he get from the sheriff?