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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2013, 09:20:09 AM »
You clearly love dick.

I guess the bible should be banned too oh snap!

20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13 KJV)[2]

More homophobia.  I'm looking forward to you going bye bye. 
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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2013, 09:26:20 AM »
Yeah I get it, you love dick a lot.

But just like in the bible, as in Islam, the punishment for homosexuality is death so...

That doesn't mean Muslims would go after him and kill him in a country where the punishment of death does not apply and in fact homosexuality is propagated and endorsed, but if he was advocating something like this in an islamic state if there was one, he would be put to death.

He's filthy and that's that.

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2013, 09:26:44 AM »


Then throw him off a balcony.

The punishment for homosexuality is death.

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So let's get this right....

The recent thread on Afghani Muslims having a 4 way orgy with a goat got NO RESPONSE from you but a white transexual male needs to be stoned to death.

So goat fucking is fine but same-sex relationships within the same species is not?

Can I ask if you differentiate between fucking male and female goats?

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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2013, 09:27:32 AM »
Yeah I get it, you love dick a lot.

But just like in the bible, as in Islam, the punishment for homosexuality is death so...

That doesn't mean Muslims would go after him and kill him in a country where the punishment of death does not apply and in fact homosexuality is propagated and endorsed, but if he was advocating something like this in an islamic state if there was one, he would be put to death.

He's filthy and that's that.

So he should stick to goats because that is acceptable?

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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2013, 09:28:08 AM »
Yeah I get it, you love dick a lot.

But just like in the bible, as in Islam, the punishment for homosexuality is death so...

That doesn't mean Muslims would go after him and kill him in a country where the punishment of death does not apply and in fact homosexuality is propagated and endorsed, but if he was advocating something like this in an islamic state if there was one, he would be put to death.

He's filthy and that's that.

You said homosexuals should be killed.  Own that shit, don't pussy out.  
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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2013, 09:28:46 AM »
So let's get this right....

The recent thread on Afghani Muslims having a 4 way orgy with a goat got NO RESPONSE from you but a white transexual male needs to be stoned to death.

So goat fucking is fine but same-sex relationships within the same species is not?

Can I ask if you differentiate between fucking male and female goats?

Didn't see that, but they would be put to death too.

Beastiality is just as disgusting.

It may be acceptable is some sub-cultures in the west worthy of jerry springer but not in an islamic state. Afghanistan is a tribal country in part ruled by an american puppet. Afghans also have a 'tradition' of young gay boyfriends, but that does not mean if it was an islamic state that it would fly by. Those people would be just as punished for something as vile.

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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2013, 09:29:39 AM »
You said homosexuals should be killed.  Own that shit, don't pussy out.  

I don't care for homosexuals, let them all rot and die from aids. Yes they should repent or all die off. Yes death is the punishment in islam for guys. Oh no! I don't believe in secular liberalism where over night someone decides its okay to stick a dick up a man's ass.

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2013, 09:30:07 AM »
Didn't see that, but they would be put to death too.

Beastiality is just as disgusting.

It may be acceptable is some sub-cultures in the west worthy of jerry springer but not in an islamic state. Afghanistan is a tribal country in part ruled by an american puppet. Afghans also have a 'tradition' of young gay boyfriends, but that does not mean if it was an islamic state that it would fly by. Those people would be just as punished for something as vile.

Your equating beastiality with homosexuality?  Does your homophobia know no end?
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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2013, 09:30:30 AM »
Your equating beastiality with homosexuality?  Does your homophobia know no end?

Same shit. Filth. Just because a liberal society decided it's okay to stick a dick in a man's ass but not in an animal's doesn't make it any less filthy. For Muslims, it will not remain wrong yesterday, today and tomorrow.

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2013, 09:32:19 AM »
Didn't see that, but they would be put to death too.

Beastiality is just as disgusting.

It may be acceptable is some sub-cultures in the west worthy of jerry springer but not in an islamic state. Afghanistan is a tribal country in part ruled by an american puppet. Afghans also have a 'tradition' of young gay boyfriends, but that does not mean if it was an islamic state that it would fly by. Those people would be just as punished for something as vile.

You seem to be very keen on putting people to death.

OK - you have your opinion & your religion but why does that give you the right to murder other people because you don't like what they get up to?

Not exactly peaceful & tolerant is it?

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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2013, 09:33:37 AM »
Assumed you are the best. Please don't ever leave getbig. I wanted you banned before but I changed my mind you are way too entertaining. The amount of hypocrisy in your posts is so amazing it is nearly incomprehensible. I love you. ( no homo )

And oh yeah...

Mohammed was a pedophile.
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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2013, 09:36:15 AM »
Same shit. Filth. Just because a liberal society decided it's okay to stick a dick in a man's ass but not in an animal's doesn't make it any less filthy. For Muslims, it will not remain wrong yesterday, today and tomorrow.

NOT wrong... Interesting slip.
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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2013, 09:37:19 AM »
Funny claim to say the least.  Homos have been around for ever and so have TS's.  In all colors, religions etc...

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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2013, 09:37:29 AM »
You seem to be very keen on putting people to death.

OK - you have your opinion & your religion but why does that give you the right to murder other people because you don't like what they get up to?

Not exactly peaceful & tolerant is it?

Why? Our standards don't change, a wrong's a wrong, even if you hate how it stays the same for us. And why a severe punishment? To deter others from following the same path.

In your society on the other hand your standards flip back and forth. Rapists are let to rape again, in our society a rapist would be put to death.

Divorce is at an all time high, adultery and promiscuity is totally normal.

Homosexuality is not only endorsed, it is admired and celebrated.

Beastiality although still unacceptable, it is practised in western sub culture and from time to time will make it on jerry springer like shows lol.

Government and corporate thieves run with millions and get a slap on the wrist while if they were in an islamic state, theyd lose their arm and think twice before ripping off millions from any individual or people.

For us, these things are timelessly wrong if they are and that's it. Social corruption is unacceptable.

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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2013, 09:39:53 AM »
Why? Our standards don't change, a wrong's a wrong, even if you hate how it stays the same for us. And why a severe punishment? To deter others from following the same path.

In your society on the other hand your standards flip back and forth. Rapists are let to rape again, in our society a rapist would be put to death.

Divorce is at an all time high, adultery and promiscuity is totally normal.

Homosexuality is not only endorsed, it is admired and celebrated.

Beastiality although still unacceptable, it is practised in western sub culture and from time to time will make it on jerry springer like shows lol.

For us, these things are timelessly wrong and that's it.

There is a difference between two consenting adults of the same gender having sex and a person having sex with an animal, for arguments sake lets say, a goat.
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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2013, 09:41:08 AM »
There is a difference between two consenting adults of the same gender having sex and a person having sex with an animal, for arguments sake lets say, a goat.

Right, that's great for you.

However for us it is not acceptable even if two or three or four or five 'consenting adults' decide to fornicate gay or not, beast or human, or if they decide to rob a bank or rape a woman, no matter how they 'consent' and plot, they are deemed doomed in an islamic state and no argument will change this condition.

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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2013, 09:44:32 AM »
Right, that's great for you.

However for us it is not acceptable even if two or three or four or five 'consenting adults' decide to fornicate gay or not, beast or human, or if they decide to rob a bank or rape a woman, no matter how they 'consent' and plot, they are deemed doomed in an islamic state and no argument will change this condition.

But cutting a women's head off for driving is perfectly fine!!! Yay Islam!!
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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2013, 09:44:46 AM »
Right, that's great for you.

However for us it is not acceptable even if two or three or four or five 'consenting adults' decide to fornicate gay or not, beast or human, or if they decide to rob a bank or rape a woman, no matter how they 'consent' and plot, they are deemed doomed in an islamic state.

Poor argument. The difference is, the person or persons being robbed or raped aren't providing consent to be robbed or raped. An animal can not provide consent.
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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2013, 09:46:16 AM »
Poor argument. The difference is, the person or persons being robbed or raped aren't providing consent to be robbed or raped. An animal can not provide consent.

Nope, the difference is, whether you consent or don't consent it is still a punishable crime.

Public intoxication is punishable by whipping. It's not just about what you 'consent to' with someone else, it is your individual act and how it affects yourself, individuals and society at large.

No argument changes the condition. End of story. Hence something wrong is not made acceptable just because people argue over it. It remains wrong eternally.

Just because in holland prostitutes are taxable does not make it acceptable just because someone said so it is consented or taxed.

All these examples are regardless always going to be unacceptable in Islam no matter what argument or justification is given.

The only party NOT punished is the victim, for example a robbery victim, a rape victim, an assault victim, etc... they are the victim. That's common-sense

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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2013, 09:47:47 AM »
Nope, the difference is, whether you consent or don't consent it is still a punishable crime.

Public intoxication is punishable by whipping. It's not just about what you 'consent to' with someone else, it is your individual act and how it affects yourself, individuals and society at large.

No argument changes the condition. End of story.

Sounds like you shouldn't be living in the west because of your hatred of homosexuals.
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« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2013, 09:49:06 AM »
Sounds like you shouldn't be living in the west because of your hatred of homosexuals.

Sounds like many Christians and Jews shouldn't be living in the west also because according to the teachings of the bible homosexuality is to be punished by death as well.

Not everyone is a secular liberal atheist.

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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2013, 09:50:18 AM »
Why? Our standards don't change, a wrong's a wrong, even if you hate how it stays the same for us. And why a severe punishment? To deter others from following the same path.

In your society on the other hand your standards flip back and forth. Rapists are let to rape again, in our society a rapist would be put to death.

Divorce is at an all time high, adultery and promiscuity is totally normal.

Homosexuality is not only endorsed, it is admired and celebrated.

Beastiality although still unacceptable, it is practised in western sub culture and from time to time will make it on jerry springer like shows lol.

Government and corporate thieves run with millions and get a slap on the wrist while if they were in an islamic state, theyd lose their arm and think twice before ripping off millions from any individual or people.

For us, these things are timelessly wrong if they are and that's it. Social corruption is unacceptable.

And your lying about rape.  The deck is tacked against women.  


Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses.  Women who allege rape without the benefit of the act having been witnessed by four men who subsequently develop a conscience are actually confessing to having sex.  If they or the accused happens to be married, then it is considered to be adultery.
 


The Qur'an:
Qur'an (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).

Qur'an (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them..."  Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough).  However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since if there are not four male witnesses, the rape "did not occur".

Qur'an (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."

Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..."  There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.


From the Hadith:
 
Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Qur'anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery.  Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband].  Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2013, 09:52:37 AM »
And your lying about rape.  The deck is tacked against women.  


Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses.  Women who allege rape without the benefit of the act having been witnessed by four men who subsequently develop a conscience are actually confessing to having sex.  If they or the accused happens to be married, then it is considered to be adultery.

LOL! Adultery can only be proven if someone confesses or there are four actual witnesses. Hence historically this punishment has rarely ever been implemented.

Rape however is not adultery it is rape.

Sorry bro, but you don't know what you're talking about.

There are various tests that can be done today that can confirm rape has occured to a woman. Stop spreading hear say that you heard from unreliable islam bashing sources :)

And the verse you quoted about flogging those who bring about false testimony against women for adultery... you dind't even read what you copy pasted.

Making a false allegation WITHOUT PROOF that a woman comitted adultery is a crime in Islam. It's called false testimony and bringing about false testimony or slandering a woman in islam is punishable by whipping.

And you copy pasted made up hadith (although there were false allegations against Aisha) and paraphrased/selectively partially quoted verses where you didn't know what they are even referring to :)

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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2013, 09:54:23 AM »
LOL! Adultery can only be proven if someone confesses or there are four actual witnesses. Hence historically this punishment has rarely ever been implemented.

Rape however is not adultery it is rape.

Sorry bro, but you don't know what you're talking about.

There are various tests that can be done today that can confirm rape has occured to a woman. Stop spreading hear say that you heard from unreliable islam bashing sources :)

Hey your finally right... Unreliable sources like the Koran. Aka toilet paper.
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Re: Britain's first transgender muslim
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2013, 09:54:56 AM »
LOL! Adultery can only be proven if someone confesses or there are four actual witnesses. Hence historically this punishment has rarely ever been implemented.

Rape however is not adultery it is rape.

Sorry bro, but you don't know what you're talking about.

There are various tests that can be done today that can confirm rape has occured to a woman. Stop spreading hear say that you heard from unreliable islam bashing sources :)

Hahaha.  Gotcha.  You know I'm right.   And to make matters worse, rape toward non-Muslim women is perfectly acceptable.  

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