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Wouldn't it be a good idea if all Swedish citizens left Sweden for Detroit and that town would boom and all the empty houses, apartments and business space would be saved and Detroit would blossom once again?


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Free healthcare? And who pays for it? Great Welfare System...and that is why there is an influx of North African and Somali immigrants wanting that great welfare system and free healthcare. And the Nordic way doesn't require the immigrants to assimilate into Swedish and Norwegian culture and society.

And you forgot Latin, African, and some Asian cultures as well...
Thing is, if you knew about Afro-Americans today, there is a great deal of feminizing of the men...
And nobody wants to talk about it...


Yes, the US has it's issues, many can be traced back to it's so social programs---the government becomes the parent.

America's way today is not the way to emulate either.

Bottom line is, when Swede was here he was always looking towards some type of strong male role model.
He exhibited the same symptoms of young men here with no male role models and a mother who excused his behavior---being lost, no direction, no gumption...he said his father was a good role model, but it showed that his father never put his foot in his son's ass from an early age. Never instilled in him a good work ethic, never was a strong role model...so Swede had to look for one, and was constantly doing that, supplanting one with the other when he was let down by the previous one.


Ok, I think you are on to something here and I agree with the original poster that things have come too far in Sweden. Sweden may be the most extreme feminist state in the world and my own Norway is not far behind, but there must be some middle ground and some kind of positive masculinity. Destructive masculinity is in my opinion found whenever male honor comes first. We find this in many cultures and nations. I mentioned afro-americans and arabs, but you mention Latin groups and I agree. If we look to nations, Russia have severe trouble with male machismo where Russian men are not adapting. Russian men today drink themselves to death.

The question is, what should be a modern, constructive masculinity? I suggest that we should be more conscious of male skills and show more pride in male skills. I have never seen a true female PC-nerd and female mechanics and technicians are few. I like to joke with my feminist friends that without men, women would never have left the caves or invented fire....  ;D. I have daughters myself. Trying to make them interested in computers or technology is totally hopeless.

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Wouldn't it be a good idea if all Swedish citizens left Sweden for Detroit and that town would boom and all the empty houses, apartments and business space would be saved and Detroit would blossom once again?



Dude, their own country is being invaded mercilessly by Ay-rabs - Detroit is the LAST place they want to go, other than Dearborn.  The rags and hebrews would rape their women with impunity. All the crackers fled  Detroit and Dearborn ages ago - all that is left hayhabs and hebrews.

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Ok, I think you are on to something here and I agree with the original poster that things have come too far in Sweden. Sweden may be the most extreme feminist state in the world and my own Norway is not far behind, but there must be some middle ground and some kind of positive masculinity. Destructive masculinity is in my opinion found whenever male honor comes first. We find this in many cultures and nations. I mentioned afro-americans and arabs, but you mention Latin groups and I agree. If we look to nations, Russia have severe trouble with male machismo where Russian men are not adapting. Russian men today drink themselves to death.

The question is, what should be a modern, constructive masculinity? I suggest that we should be more conscious of male skills and show more pride in male skills. I have never seen a true female PC-nerd and female mechanics and technicians are few. I like to joke with my feminist friends that without men, women would never have left the caves or invented fire....  ;D. I have daughters myself. Trying to make them interested in computers or technology is totally hopeless.

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I agree...with what you said.
I think constructive masculinity starts from home, with women who pick men who they think will be quality partners and will help their future male/female child to develop into a balanced, productive, and assertive person. Women must also encourage men to be in their child's lives, and for the child to see the family as a unit. Men must also show, discipline, and offer structure and guidance to their children, particularly their male children. Encourage good sportsmanship, bravery, and male camaraderie.
The problem is, to do this women are going to have to step back into their roles as quality control of men, which means that theyselves have to dial back on their wants and actions.


Also, I have seen plenty female mechanics/techs...ones that a man would want to take out to dinner.
I remember one time I had to get new tires on my car, this one female tech, about 5'1 120 pounds had replace all 4 of my tires, did a 4 wheel alignment in the quickest time I have ever had my tires done. And everything was quality. She was putting in work.

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im not american, but i did some reading into how ppl misinterpret the constitution.

tehres blatant lies floating around out there.


you got supreme court for last say on the matters, fair enough.


btw, anyone can start a party or run for some local office, i certainly would try that instead of complaining.

all parties have started somewhere sometime, they either gathered enough people or didnt.

there were some historicaly important starts of things like that, some absolutely for nothing in return, some contributed to some changes with not much in exchange.

but theres only 2 ways, by democratic means or by violence.all else is going nowhere.
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I got Mensa Bob for President next year its ok if he takes a blow job from girls around the government now and then that is not sex.

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Apparently this is an old article in one of Sweden's biggest national newspapers.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article10448146.ab

It is entitled "I would never give birth to a white man!"

It features a phrase that is the predecessor to the phrase "offended white male",
"Vitt Gubbslem" (literally ”White Oldmenphlegm” or “Scummy white old men”

The articles features a list of why she hates white men.

A white Gubbslem:
1 . Lacks empathy
2 . Always puts himself first, in all matters.
3 . Takes without thinking of others.
4 . Expects everyone to satisfy his needs and expectations.
5 . Cannot stand criticism.
6 . Sustains a fake facade of a meekness and softness of heart.
7 . Takes up a lot of space with his body without thinking about it.
8 . Thinks men say important things, even if women have just said it before them.
9 . Craves attention every hour of the day.
10 . Cannot bear tripping over in front of anyone
11 . Only sometimes understands the most important word in a woman’s vocabulary. NO!

Then she says: "At least Muslim men have nothing against letting women enjoy some peace and quiet together."

 ;D

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Apparently this is an old article in one of Sweden's biggest national newspapers.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article10448146.ab

It is entitled "I would never give birth to a white man!"

It features a phrase that is the predecessor to the phrase "offended white male",
"Vitt Gubbslem" (literally ”White Oldmenphlegm” or “Scummy white old men”

The articles features a list of why she hates white men.

A white Gubbslem:
1 . Lacks empathy
2 . Always puts himself first, in all matters.
3 . Takes without thinking of others.
4 . Expects everyone to satisfy his needs and expectations.
5 . Cannot stand criticism.
6 . Sustains a fake facade of a meekness and softness of heart.
7 . Takes up a lot of space with his body without thinking about it.
8 . Thinks men say important things, even if women have just said it before them.
9 . Craves attention every hour of the day.
10 . Cannot bear tripping over in front of anyone
11 . Only sometimes understands the most important word in a woman’s vocabulary. NO!

Then she says: "At least Muslim men have nothing against letting women enjoy some peace and quiet together."

 ;D

so she's basically saying that all white men are narcissists ???

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Apparently this is an old article in one of Sweden's biggest national newspapers.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article10448146.ab

It is entitled "I would never give birth to a white man!"

It features a phrase that is the predecessor to the phrase "offended white male",
"Vitt Gubbslem" (literally ”White Oldmenphlegm” or “Scummy white old men”

The articles features a list of why she hates white men.

A white Gubbslem:
1 . Lacks empathy
2 . Always puts himself first, in all matters.
3 . Takes without thinking of others.
4 . Expects everyone to satisfy his needs and expectations.
5 . Cannot stand criticism.
6 . Sustains a fake facade of a meekness and softness of heart.
7 . Takes up a lot of space with his body without thinking about it.
8 . Thinks men say important things, even if women have just said it before them.
9 . Craves attention every hour of the day.
10 . Cannot bear tripping over in front of anyone
11 . Only sometimes understands the most important word in a woman’s vocabulary. NO!

Then she says: "At least Muslim men have nothing against letting women enjoy some peace and quiet together."

 ;D

hahaha.   Oh yeah, enjoy your muslim man as he beats your ass for speaking out of turn.
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Apparently this is an old article in one of Sweden's biggest national newspapers.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article10448146.ab

It is entitled "I would never give birth to a white man!"

It features a phrase that is the predecessor to the phrase "offended white male",
"Vitt Gubbslem" (literally ”White Oldmenphlegm” or “Scummy white old men”

The articles features a list of why she hates white men.

A white Gubbslem:
1 . Lacks empathy
2 . Always puts himself first, in all matters.
3 . Takes without thinking of others.
4 . Expects everyone to satisfy his needs and expectations.
5 . Cannot stand criticism.
6 . Sustains a fake facade of a meekness and softness of heart.
7 . Takes up a lot of space with his body without thinking about it.
8 . Thinks men say important things, even if women have just said it before them.
9 . Craves attention every hour of the day.
10 . Cannot bear tripping over in front of anyone
11 . Only sometimes understands the most important word in a woman’s vocabulary. NO!

Then she says: "At least Muslim men have nothing against letting women enjoy some peace and quiet together."

 ;D

I'm laughing so hard there are tears running down my face!!   :D :D :D

No wonder why little blonde Swedish chicks are getting gang raped by sand nignogs.  Not one ball to be found amongst the entire population.  Enjoy your Moorish "guests" as they rape and pillage. 

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Sweden is a lost cause. The shitty thing is, I can start seeing a lot of these attitudes in the feminist girls over here. The same indoctrination is being tried here... just not with the success it had over there

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10 . Cannot bear tripping over in front of anyone

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I'm sometimes confused because the Swedes I know here in ca like guns, beer, cars, meat, smoking cigs and weed, guns, making jokes about Chinese drivers. Maybe the less tolerant ones move to the right wing utopia of northern California? Mind = blown

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Sweden is a lost cause. The shitty thing is, I can start seeing a lot of these attitudes in the feminist girls over here. The same indoctrination is being tried here... just not with the success it had over there

There is nothing wrong with being fair and judging each individual based on their own merits.  However, fair and equal isn't what people ever really want.  What they really want is to control the way people think and behave.  Equal is to dangerous and risky because it means a persons chances at success rest on their choices and ability alone.
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There is nothing wrong with being fair and judging each individual based on their own merits.  However, fair and equal isn't what people ever really want.  What they really want is to control the way people think and behave.  Equal is to dangerous and risky because it means a persons chances at success rest on their choices and ability alone.
Lol.. exactly. Its funny because they preach tolerance except in the case of anyone that dares disagree with them. Lulz.
Their way is best way, or else. And of course they don't want anyone to work harder or have more natural ability than them, then they couldn't compete and they may feel bad... so better try and tear those people down so that theyre not upset at their shortcomings.

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Sweden is a lost cause. The shitty thing is, I can start seeing a lot of these attitudes in the feminist girls over here. The same indoctrination is being tried here... just not with the success it had over there

Oh fuck yes it its!!  Has been for a while now.  The white christian heterosexual conservative male is considered the most evil creature in existence.  Somehow to libs, ANY third world mongoloid is considered superior by virtue of not being a white male.  After all the only reason any other group has not surmounted white males is purely based on racist oppression.   ::)   All the social programming in the world will never change facts that some groups will never be "equal" to others.  

Anyone remember JAmes Watson the co-discoverer of DNA structure?  Read this story: He is 100% correct but lost his job and was viciously attacked for his SCIENTIFIC OPINION!!!http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/michael-craven/james-watson-is-not-a-racist-he%E2%80%99s-a-darwinist-11558044.html

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Norwegian woman puts up post-birth selfie. Fat feminists go crazy

http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/12/02/Caroline-Berg-Eriksen-Soccer-players-wife-triggers-debate-with-post-birth-selfie/6461386028341/?spt=fsb&or=ros&n=1
wtf is wrong with women today... seriously... be happy for her... but no, gotta tear everyone down thats better than them, prettier, skinnier... no one can feel bad or inferior anymore.... jesus christ... when I was fat, the shame I felt drove me to accomplish great things. ... competition breeds exceptional accomplishments....

trying to make everything 'fair' really just means tearing down anyone that may possibly have better skills, genes or work ethic, because lord help them if they may not be the special little angel that theyve been told they were all their lives....

this shit is brewing in the US right now.... all these spoiled little bitches that arent prepared to face reality are going to cause major problem when they become adults and suddenly are facing real competition and the prospect that may not be able to compete with those that have spent their lives working hard, or have natural talent.... expect a huge meltdown bitch fest at anyone or anything that may make.them feel.inferior....

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I'm sometimes confused because the Swedes I know here in ca like guns, beer, cars, meat, smoking cigs and weed, guns, making jokes about Chinese drivers. Maybe the less tolerant ones move to the right wing utopia of northern California? Mind = blown

I don't get it either, every single Swede on getbig is awesome.  You definitely can't say that about any other nationality on here.


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The Swedes are now accusing the Norwegians of being racists? ???


Good news for Europe? ???

"In France, unemployment, austerity and euro crisis bailout fatigue means Marine Le Pen, head of the rightwing National Front, is predicted, like Ukip, to win the most in the May election. A 2011 New York Times profile of Le Pen called her a "kinder, gentler extremist". The woman who likened the French having to "endure" Muslims praying in French streets to life under the Nazi occupation has repositioned her party as a defender of gays, Jews and women, and economically to the left. Le Pen plans to work with the Sweden Democrats, Geert Wilders's Freedom party in the Netherlands and Flemish independence party Vlaams Belang in Belgium to create an anti-EU bloc in the parliament "to liberate Europe from the monster of Brussels".
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/29/europe-british-politicians-stand-up-anti-eu-populism


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Sweden's March Into Oblivion
By Bruce Bawer
Frontpage Magazine
Posted 2013-12-20 16:43 GMT

Sweden is self-destructing, and more and more people are writing about it -- but, with very few exceptions, still not in the mainstream Swedish media, where denial continues to reign supreme. Indeed, even as concerned observers abroad (especially in neighboring Denmark and Norway, where the elites still look to their larger neighbor as a multicultural role model while many, if not most, ordinary householders view it as a cautionary example) are sounding the alarm about the fallout of Swedish immigration policies, Sweden’s own mainstream media -- and the rest of its cultural establishment -- are laboring overtime to silence the truth-tellers and keep the rabble from openly questioning the wisdom of their betters.

Case in point: recently, in an attempt to win back the nearly 30 percent of male union members between ages 18 and 49 who support the heterodox Sweden Democrat Party, LO, the country’s powerful confederation of trade unions (think of the AFL-CIO at the height of its powers and multiply by two or three), spent a big chunk of cash to demonize the Sweden Democrats, painting them as a pack of fascists. (Never mind that LO’s own oppressive, ideologically lockstep alliance with the political establishment is right out of the Mussolini playbook.) One rare recent exception to the Swedish media’s see-no-evil approach to immigration and its consequences was a fascinating map, published last month in the newspaper Sydsvenskan, showing the relative levels of danger in the various neighborhoods of Malmö, the city that is regarded by many cogent observers as the ninth circle of the Scandinavian inferno.

Meanwhile, as I say, the admonitory essays keep coming. One example: "Sweden’s Race to the Bottom," a bracingly frank piece that appeared on December 4 on the website of Jyllands-Posten, Denmark’s biggest newspaper. The author, Morten Uhrskov Jensen, didn’t mince words. His opening sentence: "Sweden has chosen to break down." Jensen went on to outline the steady slide in the quality of education in Swedish primary schools over the last decade or so, as detailed in a recent PISA study, and to link that decline to what Jensen bluntly called the country’s "insane immigration policy." Sweden, warned Jensen, "will have to pay a very high price for its experiment with permitting excessive immigration from dysfunctional states." He placed special blame on the media, noting that in an article about the PISA study, Aftonbladet, Sweden’s largest paper (and, as he put it, "official Sweden’s mouthpiece"), chose to ignore the real reason for the school crisis and to pretend it’s all the fault of "the decline in equality in schools," which, in turn, is a result of "free school choice." Reacting to this transparent hogwash, Jensen commented: "One doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry."

Five days later, Jyllands-Posten offered another grim report, this one entitled "A Land of Ghosts and Shadows." In it, Danish author Mikael Javling recounted the repercussions of a recent advertisement in the newspaper Dagens Nyheter. The ad was for a book -- its title might best be translated as The Immigration Cover-Up -- that quietly but devastatingly lays bare the suicidal folly of Sweden’s immigration regime. It’s a remarkably comprehensive work, providing an informative overview of such topics as asylum smuggling, immigration and crime, sharia law, the costs of immigration, censorship of Islam critics, the wielding of the word "racism" as a weapon, the treachery of such pro-immigration authors as Stefan Jonsson and Mattias Gardell, and feminist fecklesness in the face of Muslim patriarchy. Privately printed by the authors, Karl-Olav Arnstberg (an ethnologist) and Gunnar Sandelin (a former reporter for Swedish television), after they failed to secure a publisher, the book, Javling wrote, can justifiably be described as a piece of "underground literature" which, like Solzhenitsyn in the USSR, is being read "only behind closed curtains."

The Dagens Nyheter ad for The Immigration Cover-Up was a rare exception to the Swedish media’s systematic exclusion of alternate views. According to Javling, the newspaper’s editors put Arnstberg and Sandelin through several rewrites, forcing them to tone down their language and make the ad as innocuous as possible, before they finally agreed to print the thing. Nonetheless, anodyne though it was, it thoroughly enraged the crème de la crème of the Swedish left, who gathered in Stockholm to protest what one of them denounced, in a fiery speech, as "racist propaganda" and to demand that the editors of Dagens Nyheter make a public show of contrition. (All this in response to a nearly 400-page scholarly tome that -- crammed with statistics and footnotes -- is every bit as dry and dispassionate as the left’s reaction was hot-headed and hysterical.) Jalving didn’t hide his disgust: calling the PC profs, pols, and pressmen at the demo "spoiled little children in suits," he contrasted them with the majority of Swedes, whom he characterized as "seasoned and lucid Vikings" who’ve "had enough of the elites’ lies and careerism." I hope he’s right, but I wonder how long these Vikings plan to wait before actually doing anything to try to pull their country back from the precipice.

The day after Jalving’s piece appeared, Expressen, the Swedish daily, ran a story announcing that its editors had hooked up with a Swedish research group, imaginatively named Researchgruppen, to perform a serious, in-depth investigation. Of what? Muslim terrorist cells? Of course not. In good Swedish-media fashion, the goal of Expressen‘s probe was to unearth and expose the names of the readers of three alternative online news sources, Avpixlat, Fria Tider, and Exponerat. I call these sites "alternative" because they run the sorts of stories -- about things like, oh, Muslim terrorist cells -- that mainstream Swedish media won’t touch. But Expressen doesn’t call them "alternative." It calls them "hate sites." (I’ve seen hate sites, and though I haven’t done a thorough study of these three sites, the material I’ve read on them from time to time is no more hateful than the typical article at Front Page or PJ Media.) Anyway, Researchgruppen managed to figure out the e-mail addresses of no fewer than 6200 people who had left "hateful comments" at the three "hate sites" -- and then managed to figure out whom those addresses belonged to and proceeded to gather "personal data" on them, which, Expressen promised, would be served up in future articles.

Among the individuals exposed by Expressen as a participant in the discussions on these three sites was Anders Dahlberg, a member of both the National Guard and the Sweden Democrat Party. He lives in the southern town of Skåne and is currently running for a local political office. Researchgruppen identified him as the author of a number of anonymous comments at the Avpixlat site. The one Expressen singled out for opprobrium was his suggestion that it might be impossible to end Sweden’s multicultural society without the use of force, and that ethnic Swedes might want to arm themselves in preparation for that eventuality. Members of the Swedish elite rushed to express their revulsion at this contemptible sentiment -- none of them, of course, pausing to ask whether Dahlberg’s statement is, in fact, more or less contemptible than the roles they themselves have played in the ongoing erasure of the nation that he’s plainly determined to save.

Then, this past Tuesday evening, somebody threw a bomb into the mail slot of Dahlberg’s home. The explosion caused the front door to fly off its hinges and across the living room. Although Dahlberg, his wife, and their children were all home at the time, nobody was hurt. The news of the attack was followed hard upon by a report that Dahlberg had been stripped of his position in the military. "What he has written is not consistent with the values of the Ministry of Defense," said an armed forces spokesman.

So it goes. On Thursday evening, in reaction to a clash in Stockholm between neo-Nazis and "anti-racists," thousands of citizens of Uppsala, Gothenberg, and Malmö took to the streets in yet another iteration of that favorite Scandinavian pastime, the torchlight procession against racism. Account of the preparations for these events noted that in case of any friction, "dialogue police" (dialogpolisen) -- a term I have never before encountered -- would be on hand. Stockholm anti-racists plan a Sunday demo. Perusing images of the Thursday evening processions, which showed the pious multicultural multitudes flaunting yet again their proud refusal to test their common ideology against reality, I couldn’t help pondering the melancholy question: are they really unaware that they’re marching their country into oblivion, or are they consciously embracing extinction in the belief that even self-slaughter is preferable to being called a racist?

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I don't get it either, every single Swede on getbig is awesome.  You definitely can't say that about any other nationality on here.


Wiggs will beg to differ.

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The Swedes are now accusing the Norwegians of being racists? ???


Good news for Europe? ???

"In France, unemployment, austerity and euro crisis bailout fatigue means Marine Le Pen, head of the rightwing National Front, is predicted, like Ukip, to win the most in the May election. A 2011 New York Times profile of Le Pen called her a "kinder, gentler extremist". The woman who likened the French having to "endure" Muslims praying in French streets to life under the Nazi occupation has repositioned her party as a defender of gays, Jews and women, and economically to the left. Le Pen plans to work with the Sweden Democrats, Geert Wilders's Freedom party in the Netherlands and Flemish independence party Vlaams Belang in Belgium to create an anti-EU bloc in the parliament "to liberate Europe from the monster of Brussels".
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/29/europe-british-politicians-stand-up-anti-eu-populism

Le Pen defender of Jews? This is hilarious.