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Re: UFC 168 - Chris Weidman is one Tough MF!
« Reply #225 on: December 29, 2013, 11:25:22 AM »
 Ray teaches most of New York. Who got him? Serra? Renzo?

No one has Ray. Ray has his own MMA academy out in Garden City, NY. He and Weidman recently have partnered up and opened their own MMA gym.

Serra has his own gyms (2 of them) out in Long island.

Renzo has his own academy in the heart of Manhattan (where I've been a member now for over 9 years). Renzo also has a long list of affiliate sites all over New York State (over 15 I think). At Renzo's we have a full fight camp and many fighters come over to spend their last month training at the academy. Georges St. Pierre, Chris Weidman, Frank Mir and Frankie Edgar all have done their full camps at Renzo's in the past. Weidman spent over 2 months training with John Danaher (My favorite BJJ coach) for his fight last night.

Ray is alright as a trainer, but he hasn't put out too many big names. Aside from Weidman and Serra, I can't name any others. One has to keep in mind that Serra wasn't purely Longo's product. Serra trained under Renzo for over 10 years and was our first black belt at the academy under Renzo. He also took advantage and learned a lot of Muy Thai from the instructors we've had in place over the years (guys that came from Phil Nurse's WAT). Serra then joined Longo for some training in pure boxing and used him for his fight against GSP.

As of now, Weidman's success is Longo's big ticket to truly garner a following. Hence why he just partnered up with Weidman to have their own MMA gym. How convenient is that? Smart move in my opinion..

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Re: UFC 168 - Chris Weidman is one Tough MF!
« Reply #226 on: December 29, 2013, 11:27:05 AM »
  I meant the guys like serra, serra, weidman, cummo, etc



 I thought Ray taught all of them

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Re: UFC 168 - Chris Weidman is one Tough MF!
« Reply #227 on: December 29, 2013, 11:28:16 AM »
  I meant the guys like serra, serra, weidman, coumo, etc

What about those guys?

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #228 on: December 29, 2013, 11:30:04 AM »
 matt serra found him? or renzo found him?

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #229 on: December 29, 2013, 11:30:51 AM »

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #230 on: December 29, 2013, 11:32:52 AM »
  I did not know ray took advantage, etc


  I only saw him in the corner of the guys I mentioned


  don't know any personal info


 I am in los angeles



 omr would know what goes on there in new york

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #231 on: December 29, 2013, 11:34:40 AM »
that fat guy had some skinny ass legs to be trying to squat all of that weight


he should have used kali plates

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #232 on: December 29, 2013, 11:35:02 AM »

A stupid steroid head man I want to look like him.

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #233 on: December 29, 2013, 11:36:20 AM »
  omr, I was just seconding what kwon said


 he said ray taught chris how to leg check


 kwon brought up ray


 not me

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #234 on: December 29, 2013, 11:43:37 AM »

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #235 on: December 29, 2013, 11:59:57 AM »

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #237 on: December 29, 2013, 12:16:55 PM »


That right there is my Jiu Jitsu instructor. I've trained under that man for over 9 years and love it. He has gotten me now to my brown belt (4 stripes) and I can honestly say out of all the instructors at Renzo's academy, he is the absolute best. A very honorable and humble guy with a world of knowledge to provide to his students.

Danaher is special in that he is phenomenal at no-gi Jiu Jitsu and trains with a strong emphasis that lends itself on applying Jiu Jitsu to both MMA and even street fights. He uses a wide variety of closed guards that are beautiful at defending attacks off your back. Not to mention, that he incorporates both striking offense and defense from the guard, as well as the mount.

Regarding Ray Longo.

Serra was the first to use him from our academy, although Serra knew Longo from way back when he was in High School. Ray already had a small gym out in Long Island that concentrated on boxing & kickboxing back in mid 90's. When I met Serra, it was back in 2003-2004 when I first started to go to Renzo's academy (back when it was above a methadone clinic, prior to the new location that is practically the size of a sports club). Back around 2003-2004, Serra was already a black belt in BJJ for as few years, had a school of his own out in Long Island with his brother Nick since 2001 and was teaching classes for Renzo once a week for beginners/adv. beginners (white & blues). Anyhow, during his fight camp for the first GSP fight, Serra split his time between Renzo's and would also go out to work with Longo for his striking.

Since the time Serra used Longo as his striking coach, Longo has steadily become more and more popular and at some point they even created their own fight team (Serra + Longo). They really didn't put out much talent from there. Then, Weidman showed up, joined Serra's academy out in Long Island and Serra realized he had a kid with talent on his hands. When Serra first brought Weidman to Renzo's academy a few years back, we all thought he was a super talented wrestler, but never did we know he would venture into the realm of MMA.

Now, with Weidman's new found success story, Longo got smart and partnered up with Chris in having their own academy (what happened was that they became business partners and Ray's academy got renamed to Power MMA and is co-owned now by Chris and Ray). Ray knows that having Weidman as a partner will bring in a lot of fanfare and new members, so he tagged up. I think it was a very smart move financially speaking.

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #238 on: December 29, 2013, 12:23:54 PM »
 I have only heard the best about John. I know Shawn Williams in Hollywood. Says only great things about him.

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« Reply #239 on: December 29, 2013, 12:31:06 PM »
I have only heard the best about John. I know Williams in Hollywood. Says only great things about him.

He is phenomenal. GSP, Frankie Edgar, Mir, Weidman, Serra and a bunch of other professional MMA fighters visit Danaher directly for his one-to-one instruction.

The guy is obsessed with Jiu Jitsu and combat in general. I've said it before and will say it again, if he were to ever decide to leave and start his own academy, I would follow him.

What makes Renzo's great is that they have:

fight team
large academy
Muay Thai Kru
Wrestling coach on site
Over 9-10 BJJ black belt instructors (most of which have fought in MMA and/or done BJJ worlds, panams, ADCC etc)
John Danaher
Renzo Gracie

Even with all those amenities, which makes it a one-stop-shop for MMA training, if Danaher were to leave and open up his own place tomorrow, I would cancel my contract and sign up with him.

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #240 on: December 29, 2013, 12:32:38 PM »
  Great stuff OMR. I know that you will be a BJJ BB too.




  Happy New Year!

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #241 on: December 29, 2013, 12:34:20 PM »
  Great stuff OMR. I know that you will be a BJJ BB too.

  Happy New Year!

Do you know of any good Judo guys on the northeast?

We had one at Renzo's, but he recently moved out to Florida. I'd like to pick up some of those devastating Judo throws and overall hip control Judo players have.

If you know of any out around these parts, let me know.

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #242 on: December 29, 2013, 12:49:44 PM »
That right there is my Jiu Jitsu instructor. I've trained under that man for over 9 years and love it. He has gotten me now to my brown belt (4 stripes) and I can honestly say out of all the instructors at Renzo's academy, he is the absolute best. A very honorable and humble guy with a world of knowledge to provide to his students.

Danaher is special in that he is phenomenal at no-gi Jiu Jitsu and trains with a strong emphasis that lends itself on applying Jiu Jitsu to both MMA and even street fights. He uses a wide variety of closed guards that are beautiful at defending attacks off your back. Not to mention, that he incorporates both striking offense and defense from the guard, as well as the mount.

Regarding Ray Longo.

Serra was the first to use him from our academy, although Serra knew Longo from way back when he was in High School. Ray already had a small gym out in Long Island that concentrated on boxing & kickboxing back in mid 90's. When I met Serra, it was back in 2003-2004 when I first started to go to Renzo's academy (back when it was above a methadone clinic, prior to the new location that is practically the size of a sports club). Back around 2003-2004, Serra was already a black belt in BJJ for as few years, had a school of his own out in Long Island with his brother Nick since 2001 and was teaching classes for Renzo once a week for beginners/adv. beginners (white & blues). Anyhow, during his fight camp for the first GSP fight, Serra split his time between Renzo's and would also go out to work with Longo for his striking.

Since the time Serra used Longo as his striking coach, Longo has steadily become more and more popular and at some point they even created their own fight team (Serra + Longo). They really didn't put out much talent from there. Then, Weidman showed up, joined Serra's academy out in Long Island and Serra realized he had a kid with talent on his hands. When Serra first brought Weidman to Renzo's academy a few years back, we all thought he was a super talented wrestler, but never did we know he would venture into the realm of MMA.

Now, with Weidman's new found success story, Longo got smart and partnered up with Chris in having their own academy (what happened was that they became business partners and Ray's academy got renamed to Power MMA and is co-owned now by Chris and Ray). Ray knows that having Weidman as a partner will bring in a lot of fanfare and new members, so he tagged up. I think it was a very smart move financially speaking.

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Do you know why Matt Serra changed his locks on his gym so his brother couldn't enter anymore?

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #243 on: December 29, 2013, 01:06:02 PM »
Do you know why Matt Serra changed his locks on his gym so his brother couldn't enter anymore?

I was never a member at SerraBJJ, so I can't really comment too much on the inner workings of their academies. What I will say is that Matt isn't the nicest guy out there and Nick was cut from the same cloth. I've rolled with Matt about 5-6 times over the years and shared some humor with him, but we're not close friends or anything like that. He is younger than I and has a very different group of friends.

The rumor that I heard was that they were having issues in dividing profits and money was "disappearing", but that was just a locker room rumor that I heard, there is no solid proof to back that. I truly have no clue as to why that incident occurred, but it speaks volumes about integrity.

All you have is family in this world. The moment when you close the door to your own brother is the moment when you've essentially turned your back on the world.

I always say that family problems should be solved within the family. It should never spill, at any cost, into the public eye.

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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #244 on: December 29, 2013, 01:12:31 PM »
Somebody on twitter programmed Silva to break his leg. Looks like he was psyched into throwing that kick.


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Re: UFC 168 - Silva is gonna beat Weidman tomorrow night.
« Reply #245 on: December 29, 2013, 01:57:16 PM »
  Some times you eat the bear... some times, the bear eats you...

sometimes the bear gets his ass kicked twice...and it turns out the bear wasn't the bear most thought it was.

Weidman made those fights look too easy.  8)
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Re: UFC 168 - Chris Weidman is one Tough MF!
« Reply #246 on: December 29, 2013, 01:57:29 PM »
Che you're invited too. :-*

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Re: UFC 168 - Chris Weidman is one Tough MF!
« Reply #247 on: December 29, 2013, 02:00:04 PM »
 Ray teaches most of New York. Who got him? Serra? Renzo?

Naw. Ray only teaches the best in NY and the world.

But people will take notice now. Him and Serra are the best trainers in NY by far.
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Re: UFC 168 - Chris Weidman is one Tough MF!
« Reply #248 on: December 29, 2013, 02:40:28 PM »
Naw. Ray only teaches the best in NY and the world.

But people will take notice now. Him and Serra are the best trainers in NY by far.

That's not even remotely close to being true.

For Chris' first fight with Anderson, he did his entire camp at Renzo's academy. He used Danaher solely for his Jiu-Jitsu training and used our Muay Thai Kru for striking. Longo would show up with him once or twice a week, but it was mainly to add pointers from the sidelines. John Danaher runs the fight camp at Renzo's and he didn't even charge Chris the full amount. He simply told him to pay for the camp fees after he gets the proceeds from his fight. In his first camp, they even brought in Phil Nurse to show Chris any/all approaches Anderson might have by way of his Muay Thai. They also brought in a bunch of unorthodox boxers.

Serra has said it many times that no one provides a better fight camp than Renzo's academy. Serra knows very well that the best grappling team in NYC is at Renzo Gracie's academy (we win the most titles at all local and state competitions).

Aside from Serra (which was mostly trained by Renzo & Danaher during his first fight with GSP) and Weidman, what other champions has Longo put out?

Danaher's fight camp has put out GSP, Edgar & Weidman (first fight). Renzo's academy also has had more fighters turn pro than any other MMA camp in NYC.

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Re: UFC 168 - Chris Weidman is one Tough MF!
« Reply #249 on: December 29, 2013, 02:45:54 PM »
That's not even remotely close to being true.

For Chris' first fight with Anderson, he did his entire camp at Renzo's academy. He used Danaher solely for his Jiu-Jitsu training and used our Muay Thai Kru for striking. Longo would show up with him once or twice a week, but it was mainly to add pointers from the sidelines. John Danaher runs the fight camp at Renzo's and he didn't even charge Chris the full amount. He simply told him to pay for the camp fees after he gets the proceeds from his fight. In his first camp, they even brought in Phil Nurse to show Chris any/all approaches Anderson might have by way of his Muay Thai. They also brought in a bunch of unorthodox boxers.

Serra has said it many times that no one provides a better fight camp than Renzo's academy. Serra knows very well that the best grappling team in NYC is at Renzo Gracie's academy (we win the most titles at all local and state competitions).

Aside from Serra (which was mostly trained by Renzo & Danaher during his first fight with GSP) and Weidman, what other champions has Longo put out?

Danaher's fight camp has put out GSP, Edgar & Weidman (first fight). Renzo's academy also has had more fighters turn pro than any other MMA camp in NYC.

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Serra got fat huh?

I've seen Danaher interviewed a few times seems like a cerebral guy , well thought out. Any clue why he never competed?