I seriously don't think it's possible for the politial left to have commonsense

[Coach is Back!]

http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-government/ci_24825201/california-new-laws-higher-wages-safer-cycling-gun

[240 is Back]

The majority of voters in Cali prefer a nanny state.  They wanna be babied and cared for.  Conservatives are in the minority there.  Most of the laws listed there are total crap.

A few of those laws are actually good for people who enjoy their rights:

I enjoy the right to drive without some asswipe 16 year old jerking off on his phone flirting with his crush crashing into me.  I think every one of us sees these DISTRACTED drivers as a risk to our right to be safe on public roads.  Pull over and text, kid.

I enjoy being able to ride a bike (if I did) without someone driving by me at 55mph... The law of physics dictate if he's passing me that fast and he's 6 inches away, I'm getting sucked under his big ass truck.  So yeah, 36 inches of space is a good idea.  Anyone who feels angry they have to respect wind shear, lol.

[temple_of_dis]

well majority of dems simply hate successful white male

they will rip world to shreds to bring him down

problem is someonie has to invent linux the car pc atomic power and hek big mac

and non whities aint doin good job

[OzmO]

I live in California.



SACRAMENTO -- New laws taking effect this year will change the way Californians drive, work and go to school.

Starting today, teens can no longer text friends using Siri while on the road, and this summer

,
Good

the minimum wage will increase to one of the highest rates in the nation.

Not sure.  But everything else is very expensive here.

DRIVERS: California in September will join two dozen other states in requiring motorists to keep at least three feet from cyclists when passing.

This will cause problems because not all roads are wide enough to do that with on coming traffic

Another law continues until 2019 to permit low-emission or zero-emission vehicle drivers to use carpool lanes even when driving alone.

That's nice but at some point the HOV lanes will lose its advantage.

Assemblyman Luis Alejo, D-Watsonville, right, is congratulated by Assemblyman Roger Dickinson after the Assembly approved Alejo
Assemblyman Luis Alejo, D-Watsonville, right, is congratulated by Assemblyman Roger Dickinson after the Assembly approved Alejo's minimum wage bill at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Thursday, Sept. 12, 2013. (Rich Pedroncelli / AP)

WORKERS: Starting July 1, minimum wage earners must be paid $9 an hour, and by 2016, the state's base wage will jump to $10. In-home caregivers who work more than nine hours a day or 45 hours per week must be paid time and a half, and people who work outdoors must get breaks when the weather is hot.

Don't know about wage thing.  But like i said its expensive here.

TEENS: Transgender students can choose which restrooms to use and which sports teams to play on,

Don't know about this either

and cyberbullies will face harsher penalties in school.

Still don't get what a cyberbully is

It's already illegal for teens to use cellphones while driving, but now, voice-operated hands-free texting programs are off-limits, too.

Good

IMMIGRANTS: People living in the country illegally can now practice law in California, and by 2015, illegal immigrants will be able to obtain driver's licenses. Gov. Jerry Brown also signed legislation barring county jails from turning illegal immigrants over to federal authorities.

OMFG

WOMEN: Many states last year restricted women's abortion rights, but California expanded access to the procedure, allowing certain clinicians other than doctors to perform some early-term abortions.
Cycling on a narrow road, Diablo, Calif.
Cycling on a narrow road, Diablo, Calif. (Jim Stevens, Bay Area News Group)

ok

FAMILIES: Children can now have more than two legal parents, and law enforcement officials must activate an AMBER ALERT when a child is abducted by a parent or guardian who jeopardizes a child's life. Workers now will be eligible to take family leave to care for a wider variety of seriously ill relatives.

good

VICTIMS: Employers can no longer fire, discriminate or retaliate against a worker victimized by domestic violence, sexual assault or stalking.

good

They're also barred from retaliating against employees who are immigrants by threatening to report their status to federal authorities.

Do they mean illegal immigrants??

PAPARAZZI: Photographers who harass the children of public figures, including celebrities, will face tougher penalties, including up to a year in county jail and a $10,000 fine. This law was backed by actresses Halle Berry and Jennifer Garner.

good

ANIMALS: Homeowners who spot mountain lions in their backyards may not shoot and kill the big cats. Hunters by 2019 will no longer be able to use lead ammunition.

fucking stupid

GUNS: Rifle purchasers must earn safety certificates,

 I like it.  Nothing wrong with that

and kits that convert regular magazines into high-capacity magazines are banned.

Stupid

Mentally ill people who make violent threats are prohibited from owning guns for five years.

good

[LurkerNoMore]

Common sense is not words that should be uttered by a birther.

[OzmO]

Common sense is not words that should be uttered by a birther.

That's the first thing i thougth, but there isn't any point lol.

[Option D]

Common sense is not words that should be uttered by a birther.

Common sense is also 2 words

[OzmO]

But... Coach's beliefs about OB's birth place aren't the issue here.


These new laws are.


What's your take on each?

[tu_holmes]

Actually, the own article shows that the Governor is pretty moderate.

The 805 bills Gov. Brown signed last year are fairly progressive by national standards, but the 96 bills he vetoed are evidence of hiss moderate side.

The governor gave the National Rifle Association seven of the 11 vetoes it wanted, and he rejected more than three dozen bills labeled "job killers" by the California Chamber of Commerce. Only one of those, the minimum wage hike, became law.

Perhaps the most impressive legislative achievement last year is what didn't get signed into law, said Jack Pitney a political-science professor at Claremont McKenna College.

"We can all be thankful that taxes won't go up in 2014," Pitney said.

I think Joe is a good guy, but if he hates California's politics so much, why does he stay there?

[Archer77]

"They're also barred from retaliating against employees who are immigrants by threatening to report their status to federal authorities."

So it's now illegal for someone to follow the law.

[OzmO]

Actually, the own article shows that the Governor is pretty moderate.

The 805 bills Gov. Brown signed last year are fairly progressive by national standards, but the 96 bills he vetoed are evidence of hiss moderate side.

The governor gave the National Rifle Association seven of the 11 vetoes it wanted, and he rejected more than three dozen bills labeled "job killers" by the California Chamber of Commerce. Only one of those, the minimum wage hike, became law.

Perhaps the most impressive legislative achievement last year is what didn't get signed into law, said Jack Pitney a political-science professor at Claremont McKenna College.

"We can all be thankful that taxes won't go up in 2014," Pitney said.

I think Joe is a good guy, but if he hates California's politics so much, why does he stay there?

Well good for Jerry

But fuck him on this Immigration scam

[tu_holmes]

Well good for Jerry

But fuck him on this Immigration scam

It's a money making scheme... Whether they are legal or not, they gotta pay for license fees.

[Coach is Back!]

Common sense is not words that should be uttered by a birther.

Planning economics for a state or country should NEVER be uttered by the left. That's primarily what this thread was started for. There are some good laws but raising minimum wage is ridiculous. 

[tu_holmes]

Planning economics for a state or country should NEVER be uttered by the left. That's primarily what this thread was started for. There are some good laws but raising minimum wage is ridiculous. 

I don't think it's a bad thing from a state or region level.

You and I both know that the cost of living in Los Angeles and the surrounding counties is much much higher than other areas of the country.

I have no issue with raising it a buck or so around LA... other areas, not so much.

[LurkerNoMore]

Planning economics for a state or country should NEVER be uttered by the left. That's primarily what this thread was started for. There are some good laws but raising minimum wage is ridiculous. 

Yeah because Repub economics really work huh?  Trickle down economics?  Bush tax cuts?  How about the poorest states in the country being red states?  Yep boy... really good examples you got there.

Another fail thread started by you.  No surprise.

[Straw Man]

yeah, look what a disaster Jerry Brown has been

he really fucked up the state after Arnold handed it off to him is such great shape

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Good-news-California-Surplus-is-2-4-billion-4997158.php

[tu_holmes]

yeah, look what a disaster Jerry Brown has been

he really fucked up the state after Arnold handed it off to him is such great shape

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Good-news-California-Surplus-is-2-4-billion-4997158.php

I don't think it's fair for Joe to complain about the California economy when his Gym memberships start at 350 bucks a month... Very few areas could support a gym membership with that rate.

His area in California (I believe it's OC) is one of the few areas in the country that can.

I like Joe... He's a reasonable guy, but he gets sucked into the "anti-liberal" schtick a little too much.

[OzmO]

specifically:

IMMIGRANTS: People living in the country illegally can now practice law in California, and by 2015, illegal immigrants will be able to obtain driver's licenses. Gov. Jerry Brown also signed legislation barring county jails from turning illegal immigrants over to federal authorities.

[tu_holmes]

specifically:

It's just about money... Whether they are legal or not doesn't change the fact that the California government will take their money for licenses.

[OzmO]

It's just about money... Whether they are legal or not doesn't change the fact that the California government will take their money for licenses.

did you read the whole thing?

What do you think about it?

Are you ok with it?


I realize most things in our politics is about money.  Where do you draw the line?  Is there a line?  Should there be a line?

Do you believe in borders?

With these new laws why should you have to show you passport?

Props to Jerry for getting the state budget in order....  BWTF???  Jerry supporters are you ok with this?

Might as well call it "Calexico" from now on.

[tu_holmes]

did you read the whole thing?

What do you think about it?

Are you ok with it?


I realize most things in our politics is about money.  Where do you draw the line?  Is there a line?  Should there be a line?

Do you believe in borders?

With these new laws why should you have to show you passport?

Props to Jerry for getting the state budget in order....  BWTF???  Jerry supporters are you ok with this?

Might as well call it "Calexico" corm now on.

I understand the revenue aspect, but no... I don't agree with it.

I think it's bad. We have borders and there's a reason why we want to make sure people aren't just running around free whim.

There has to be some ideal for checking on who people are that are coming and going.

You're right also, why should I have to show a passport if illegals can just come and go at whim?

[24KT]

You do realize that permitting illegals to obtain drivers licences feeds multiple birds with one worm don't you?

In addition to the additional revenues to the state, and boosts to the insurance industries, among other things,
...it allows the state to know who these people are, as well as where they are. No more getting lost in the wind.

[Archer77]

You do realize that permitting illegals to obtain drivers licences feeds multiple birds with one worm don't you?

In addition to the additional revenues to the state, and boosts to the insurance industries, among other things,
...it allows the state to know who these people are, as well as where they are. No more getting lost in the wind.

They aren't doing anything with information. What's the point?

[24KT]

They aren't doing anything with information. What's the point?

Sure they are. They're calculating the potential workpool for the big corporations who want to hire them.

[OzmO]

You do realize that permitting illegals to obtain drivers licences feeds multiple birds with one worm don't you?

In addition to the additional revenues to the state, and boosts to the insurance industries, among other things,
...it allows the state to know who these people are, as well as where they are. No more getting lost in the wind.

I don't GIVE A SHIT.  

I am not interested in undermining laws to benefit illegals even though it may or may not benefit insurance companies.

I am interested in our representatives representing the will of the people, not the corps.

When you don't permit local law enforcement to report illegals to the feds its goes way over the line, not to mention the Driver's license thing.  


To illegal immigrants:  GET THE FUCK OUT AND FIX YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

........Other than we are still the greatest country in the world, shitting all over Muslim controlled countries and helping the jews.