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Author Topic: how much would an average pro spend on juice in a year?  (Read 15395 times)
Oliver Klaushof
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« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2006, 11:40:58 PM »

but remember this... it's the talent pool too. more and more people take steroids so would-be great naturals aren't natural any more. so the top naturals aren't necesarily the best. also what i said about people retiring is true. let's take Yates. Sure he still works out but he probably doesn't follow a great diet and he probably misses workouts all the time because it doesn't matter any more.

The genetic difference - and that's only if there is a significant difference - between naturals and pros - wouldn't be huge enough to constitute the tremendous difference in size.
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« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2006, 11:42:35 PM »

Almost all top naturals compete at a bodyweight of 190 - 220

Top IFBB pros compete at 240 - 270

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« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2006, 11:50:51 PM »

of course juice is the biggest factor between natural and not but a pro who gets off juice can still look good if he keeps training as if for competition but who ever does that?
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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2006, 12:13:17 AM »

I have to agree that the biggest abusers I have met are the fringe amateurs that never seem to breakthrough to the pros. They get quite large but they have no shape...
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« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2006, 12:31:59 PM »

Are you still placing ads for guys to but-slam you while your wife watches?  How's that working out Huh

Considering you were the only one answering them,  I decided to stop with the adds and just work out a weekly . . .  Are we still on for Friday night?

And don't forget the cowboy hat Wink

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