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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #500 on: October 20, 2015, 08:15:28 AM »
People are criticizing my dad, Jim Webb, for killing a man. Here’s what they’re missing.

Your recent love affair with Webb is no surprise.

Aside from loving to waste people and supporting military, Webb is perhaps a bigger liberal than hilary.  He's nowhere near independent, he's essentially bernie sanders (A pro-gun bedwetting liberal on everything else)

With links to prove all of them...
Webb is pro-abortion, big spending, big govt, pro union, slash police funding, loves common core, love cap/trade, loves global warming, loves NAFTA, loves obamacare, supports AMNESTY

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« Reply #501 on: October 20, 2015, 09:13:43 AM »
Too bad.  Losing the best candidate of a sorry group. 

Webb to drop out of Democratic 2016 race
Published October 20, 2015
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In this June 30, 2015 file photo, former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb speaks in Baltimore. (AP)

Former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb will announce Tuesday that he is dropping out of the Democratic presidential race, Fox News has learned.

Webb is said to be disillusioned with the Democratic Party -- as well as the Republican Party -- and how the political parties are being pulled to allegedly extreme positions by the huge amounts of loosely regulated money fueling the campaigns.

Webb has a press conference scheduled for 1 p.m. ET. 

While Webb is thought to be weighing a possible independent bid, he is not expected to launch an independent campaign for president Tuesday. Rather, he's expected to take some time after his announcement to talk with people from across the political spectrum before making a decision.

Webb, like most of the other candidates in the Democratic race, has struggled to get out from under the shadow of front-runner Hillary Clinton. During the first Democratic debate last week Webb complained repeatedly about how little time he had to answer questions.

He said Thursday he felt the debate had been "rigged in terms of who was going to get the time on the floor."

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #502 on: October 20, 2015, 10:44:25 AM »
Too bad.  Losing the best candidate of a sorry group. 

You mean the biggest liberal?

Aside from being pro-military, Webb is COMPLETE liberal.

Webb is pro-abortion, big spending, big govt, pro union, slash police funding, loves common core, love cap/trade, loves global warming, loves NAFTA, loves obamacare, supports AMNESTY

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« Reply #503 on: October 20, 2015, 12:08:47 PM »
You mean the biggest liberal?

Aside from being pro-military, Webb is COMPLETE liberal.

Webb is pro-abortion, big spending, big govt, pro union, slash police funding, loves common core, love cap/trade, loves global warming, loves NAFTA, loves obamacare, supports AMNESTY

As the board's biggest liberal, you would certainly know.  Are you sad you will not get to vote for him?   :'(

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #504 on: October 20, 2015, 12:56:08 PM »
As the board's biggest liberal, you would certainly know.  Are you sad you will not get to vote for him?   :'(

I point out Webb is a major liberal.

You don't like the MESSAGE, so you attack me, the MESSENGER.


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« Reply #505 on: October 20, 2015, 12:58:18 PM »
I point out Webb is a major liberal.

You don't like the MESSAGE, so you attack me, the MESSENGER.



::)  This isn't a debate.  Calling someone a liberal isn't an attack. 

But never fear:  you still have Hillary and Bernie, and possibly Biden to choose from.   

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« Reply #506 on: October 20, 2015, 01:03:24 PM »
Calling someone a liberal isn't an attack. 

Yes, calling anyone a name, is an attack upon them personally.

You can't accept the fact I pointed out Webb is a bedwetting liberal softie that loves everything socialism except military.

So you call me a name and get all emotional.  Bro, no need for that.  Just agree he's a lib, or disagree.   Focus upon the debate, don't just attack other getbgigers because they're more aware of Webb's liberal history than you might be.

Have a mineral water, bro.   It's just a message board, we're just here to learn.  Attacking people personally is what shithead liberals & rightwing idiots do.  On getbig, people are reasonable and don't do that.

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« Reply #507 on: October 20, 2015, 01:37:35 PM »

::)  This isn't a debate.  Calling someone a liberal isn't an attack. 

But never fear:  you still have Hillary and Bernie, and possibly Biden to choose from.   

At least we have a choice

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« Reply #508 on: October 20, 2015, 01:39:07 PM »
Yes, calling anyone a name, is an attack upon them personally.

You can't accept the fact I pointed out Webb is a bedwetting liberal softie that loves everything socialism except military.

So you call me a name and get all emotional.  Bro, no need for that.  Just agree he's a lib, or disagree.   Focus upon the debate, don't just attack other getbgigers because they're more aware of Webb's liberal history than you might be.

Have a mineral water, bro.   It's just a message board, we're just here to learn.  Attacking people personally is what shithead liberals & rightwing idiots do.  On getbig, people are reasonable and don't do that.

So hypersensitive.  Liberal is not a pejorative.  It's what you are.  It's ok.  Nothing to be ashamed of. 

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #509 on: October 20, 2015, 01:39:40 PM »
At least we have a choice

Man this is laugh out loud funny, and sad at the same time.  Do you actually like your choices? 

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #510 on: October 20, 2015, 02:18:27 PM »
Reminds me of Dole, Gore, McCain, and even Romney:  guys who hung around long enough and eventually became the nominee, only to lose the general election.  (Edited for the troll.)  

Attkisson: Biden Would Be No. 1 For Dems

Image: Attkisson: Biden Would Be No. 1 For Dems  (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)  
Tuesday, 20 Oct 2015

Joe Biden is going to run for president — and he's poised to eventually replace Hillary Clinton as Democratic frontrunner, Emmy award-winning journalist Sharyl Attkisson tells Newsmax TV.

"He'll shoot to number one on the Democrat side," Attkisson said Tuesday on "The Steve Malzberg Show."

"If she's not more popular now among the constituency … then that just signals some trouble for her and I don't think things are necessarily going to get a lot better.

"There are more bumps in the road. [Biden] may be perceived as having less baggage at this point, even though he's got the Obama hill to climb."

The vice president is expected announce on Wednesday he is throwing his hat in the ring, just a day before the former secretary of state is set to testify before the House committee on Benghazi.

"Democrats have been very worried about this committee and Hillary Clinton from the start," Attkisson said.

"She has done, my information says, internal polling that has given her reason to worry that the public doesn't think this is a Republican conspiracy."

Attkisson is host of "Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson," a weekly news program on Sinclair Broadcasting's ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox stations nationwide.

She is also author of "Stonewalled: My Fight for Truth Against the Forces of Obstruction, Intimidation, and Harassment in Obama's Washington," published by Harper.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/joe-biden-democrats-president-sharyl-attkisson/2015/10/20/id/697172/#ixzz3p93emgss

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #511 on: October 20, 2015, 03:23:17 PM »
Reminds me of Dole, Gore, McCain, and even Romney:  guys who hung around long enough and eventually became the nominee, only to loose the general election. 

yeah, romney was a little "loose" with the 47% comment.

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« Reply #512 on: October 20, 2015, 07:11:33 PM »
Man this is laugh out loud funny, and sad at the same time.  Do you actually like your choices? 

Do YOU like YOURS??????????????

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #513 on: October 21, 2015, 09:18:13 AM »
No Biden.

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« Reply #514 on: October 21, 2015, 09:28:14 AM »
We've heard NOTHING leak of any kind.  No legal team, no filings, no flights.  With such a huge story and so many moving parts, you'd think we would have heard SOMETHING.

Lebron going to the cavs... those of us who are observant caught little cues back in March before the playoffs that year... website color schemes, school enrollments, so many little unexplainable things which pointed toward him leaving.  

But there just seems to be so FEW signals that he's running.  Nobody's slipped up at ALL.   No reporters has caught his team members flying to delaware, no hall rentals, nobody cancelling vacation hours, nobody whispering to field operatives in Iowa...

IMHO, the little oddities give away the story early - and we have had NONE of those with biden.  So even though I respect kristol's prediction, I will be surprised if Biden runs.  "oct 20th" has a nice ring to it for an announcement planned months ahead of time, which would be tomorrow... but still, we have heard NONE of those little hints that we usually would.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #515 on: October 21, 2015, 02:24:56 PM »
Do YOU like YOURS??????????????

I rarely like my choices, but I don't have any until the general election anyway.  

Do you like your choices?  

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #516 on: October 21, 2015, 02:32:44 PM »
I'm not a Biden fan, but this was pretty crafty.  This was a campaign speech.  I think he's out unless and until Hillary gets indicted. 

Biden announces he will not run for president in 2016
Published October 21, 2015
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Vice President Biden announced Wednesday he will not run for president, ending months of feverish speculation over his 2016 plans and likely settling the Democratic field.

Speaking in the Rose Garden alongside his wife Jill and President Obama, Biden said the window of opportunity to mount a viable campaign "has closed." He has been weighing a decision since summer, but cautioned all along that he and his family were grieving over the loss of his son Beau Biden -- and said Wednesday he knew that process could outlast the window for making a decision. 

"Unfortunately, I believe we're out of time, the time necessary to mount a winning campaign for the nomination," Biden said.

He added, "While I will not be a candidate, I will not be silent." Biden went on to urge Democrats to run on Obama's record, while decrying the current partisanship in Washington.

The decision would appear to bolster front-runner Hillary Clinton -- whom Biden had been urged by supporters to challenge as she grappled with slipping poll numbers and a widening scandal over her email use in her capacity as secretary of state.

After Biden's remarks, Clinton tweeted:

.@VP is a good friend and a great man. Today and always, inspired by his optimism and commitment to change the world for the better. -H

Biden, though, seemed to take a parting shot Wednesday at her and other Democratic candidates, after some suggested Republicans are their enemy at last week's debate.

"I don't think we should look at Republicans as our enemy. They're the opposition," Biden said, urging lawmakers to find "consensus."

"Four more years of this kind of pitched battle may be more than this country can take," he said. "We have to change it."

According to a senior administration official, the vice president made his decision Tuesday night.

His choice is a blow to former staffers and others who were building a virtual campaign in waiting, ready to go if he decided to enter. Draft Biden, the most vocal organization urging the VP to run, put out a brief statement after his announcement: "We are so grateful for the gigantic outpouring of support from hundreds of thousands of Americans around the country in our effort to encourage the Vice President to run. While the Vice President has decided not to run, we know that over the next year he will stand up for all Americans and articulate a vision for America's future that will leave no one behind."

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said in a statement that Biden's decision will hurt Democrats.

"The Vice President's decision not to enter the 2016 race is a major blow for Democrats, who now will almost certainly be saddled with their unpopular and scandal plagued front-runner Hillary Clinton," he said.

Democratic National Committee leader Debbie Wasserman Schultz, meanwhile, said she appreciates Biden's "thoughtful consideration," adding "his unwavering commitment to America's working families is a legacy each of our candidates will proudly carry forward."

Biden would have brought with him a number of potential assets to the race, including his experience as vice president and a lengthy Senate career that included a term as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He has a solid rapport with the labor unions, and is famous for his down-to-earth, casual manner -- one that contributes to his frequent, off-color remarks that sometimes get him in trouble but also fill out his image as an unscripted and genuine statesman, flaws and all.

For someone who had not actually announced, Biden's poll numbers were relatively strong. In a Monmouth University poll released this week, Biden was ranking with 17 percent support among Democratic voters, compared with 21 percent for Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. and 48 percent for Clinton. A recent Fox News Poll found that in general election matchups, Biden would beat all the Republican frontrunners.

But family considerations and other factors surely weighed on him, including the prospect of mounting a grueling presidential run. And scrutiny on him would have increased rapidly had he entered, testing his level of public support. His long record in office also could have been used against him, specifically on foreign policy. Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said in his memoir that Biden was "wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades."

Past Biden runs did not generate much support. Biden's run for the 1988 Democratic nomination fizzled, with accusations that he plagiarized a speech by then-British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock. Biden also ran for the 2008 nomination, but failed to garner significant support and dropped out in January of 2008 before being chosen as the vice presidential nominee by then-Sen. Barack Obama.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/21/biden-to-speak-in-rose-garden/?intcmp=hplnws

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #517 on: October 21, 2015, 06:36:57 PM »
Interesting take.

Ed Klein: The Story Behind Biden's Decision

Image: Ed Klein: The Story Behind Biden's Decision   (Photo by Aude Guerrucci-Pool/Getty Images) 
By Ed Klein   
Wednesday, 21 Oct 2015
 
If you listened to the media chatter about why Joe Biden decided to take himself out of the running for president, you’d conclude that it was all about grieving and timing. By the time the Biden family went through the grieving process over the death of Beau Biden, it was just to late for Joe to get into the race.

All of that is true enough as far as it goes. But it doesn’t go far enough, because none of the media’s coverage told the story behind the story—the intrigue and deliberate deception at the highest levels of the political system that ultimately determined Biden’s decision to take a pass on the presidency.

According to sources close to Biden, the vice president and President Obama, who had been urging Biden to run, held numerous discussions about Biden’s chances of taking on Hillary in the Democrat primaries and knocking her out of the presidential race.

In those talks, Biden expressed doubt that he would be able to overcome Hillary’s advantage in timing, money, organization, and ground game. The only way he could see himself getting into the race, Biden reportedly told the president, was if the White House assured him that it would support the FBI’s investigation of Hillary’s improper handling of classified documents on her private e-mail system and encourage Attorney General Loretta Lynch to bring down an indictment against Hillary.An indictment—even a misdemeanor—would almost certainly doom Hillary’s chances of getting the nomination.

In public, Obama has been reluctant to criticize Hillary. For instance, he recently told Steve Kroft of “60 Minutes” that he didn’t think Hillary intended to “hide something or to squirrel away information” on her private e-mail server and that she didn’t endanger national security.

Other sources—in this case, those close to the White House—admit that the president was being deceptive with Kroft because, as the head of his party, he had to be careful not to be seen as dissing the Democrats’ leading candidate for the presidency. What’s more, the White House sources say, the president didn’t want to publicize the hidden depths of his blood feud with the Clintons.

In fact, these sources confirm that Obama sings a different tune in private. The president and his senior adviser, Valerie Jarrett, have made it clear to James Comey, the director of the FBI, and the prosecutors in the Justice Department who are working in close collaboration with the FBI, that the White House wants a thorough investigation and, if warranted, a vigorous prosecution.

But the operative words were if warranted. The president did not signal Attorney General Loretta Lynch that he wanted her to follow his guidance. Using the attorney general as a sword in a political fight would have left the president open to charges of committing a federal crime.

Therefore, Obama stopped short of giving Biden the assurances that he was seeking. And without the president’s promise, Biden decided he had no choice but to bow out.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hillary-clinton-joe-biden-ed-klein-barack-obama/2015/10/20/id/697215/#ixzz3pFxTri1r

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #518 on: October 21, 2015, 06:40:32 PM »
With Biden Out, Clinton Likely To Get A Bump In The Polls
Even when she was the front-runner in 2007, Clinton wasn't polling this well.
Ariel Edwards-Levy
Staff Reporter and Polling Director, The Huffington Post
10/21/2015

Hillary Clinton, already seeing an uptick from her strong performance in the first Democratic primary debate, is likely to get another boost following Vice President Joe Biden's announcement on Wednesday that he won't run for president.

Recent polling tells a consistent story: With Biden out of the race, his supporters will disperse -- and that's generally to Clinton's benefit.

In the most recent Economist/YouGov survey, which was conducted earlier this month, one-fifth of Democratic voters named Biden as their preferred candidate. Among that group, 51 percent said Clinton would be their second choice, while just 30 percent named Sanders and the rest were mostly unsure.

Across six October surveys that reported results with and without Biden, Clinton led Sanders by an average of 23 points when Biden was included, and by 29 points when he was not.



With Biden in the mix, Clinton's share of the vote fell as low as 45 percent; without him, she took a majority of the vote in each case. That's substantially higher than she was polling even during her time as the front-runner in the fall of 2007, leading up to the 2008 Democratic primary.

Biden rose in the polls this summer as Clinton suffered from difficult news stories and declining ratings, and as speculation about his candidacy continued to mount.

Even earlier this month, most Democrats didn't think it was too late for the vice president to jump in. But after his absence from the first primary debate, surveys showed, Biden's numbers were already beginning to slide -- and now that he's decided against a run, the largely moderate Democratic voters who were backing Biden look more inclined to rejoin the Clinton camp.

As a summer Economist/YouGov poll showed, Clinton and Biden are perceived as holding virtually identical political ideologies, and Sanders is seen as a more liberal alternative. In the most recent survey, about two-thirds of Biden's supporters considered themselves political moderates or conservatives, similar to the 61 percent of Clinton supporters who assigned themselves the same labels. In contrast, just one-third of Sanders backers say they're not ideologically liberal.

The primary election remains months away, and there's plenty of time for things to change. But Sanders' and Clinton's other rivals continue to face a formidable challenge  in opposing a candidate with a solid majority of support. With Biden stepping aside, the path to victory for another Democrat now looks even steeper.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/biden-supporters-hillary-clinton_5627d7ace4b0bce34703a0ea

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #519 on: October 21, 2015, 06:52:36 PM »
I rarely like my choices, but I don't have any until the general election anyway.  

Do you like your choices?  

contrary to what you might believe it's not a lock that I will vote democratic....I have to admit I am seriously considering Trump although I KNOW he is loony

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« Reply #520 on: October 21, 2015, 10:25:22 PM »
contrary to what you might believe it's not a lock that I will vote democratic....I have to admit I am seriously considering Trump although I KNOW he is loony

-Odd choice. My good friend who is ultra-conservative told me she'd vote for Hillary over Donald if it comes down to this. Trump is a total nut job. It wouldn't surprise me to find out he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #521 on: October 22, 2015, 11:07:32 AM »
contrary to what you might believe it's not a lock that I will vote democratic....I have to admit I am seriously considering Trump although I KNOW he is loony

Whatever you say andre. 

Biden definitely has my vote if he runs......he has a much better resume than Clinton

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« Reply #522 on: October 22, 2015, 11:08:05 AM »
-Odd choice. My good friend who is ultra-conservative told me she'd vote for Hillary over Donald if it comes down to this. Trump is a total nut job. It wouldn't surprise me to find out he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder.

Is there really any doubt? 

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« Reply #523 on: October 22, 2015, 11:19:58 AM »
Andre has mentioned how he liked the W administration  :-X

So when he says he might not go D, I believe him.

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« Reply #524 on: October 22, 2015, 11:29:09 AM »
Andre has mentioned how he liked the W administration  :-X

So when he says he might not go D, I believe him.

I actually did thik that George W was a good president.  He was blindsided by 9/11...he never had any intention of being a wartime president...and he prosecuted the war well......it was the aftermath that did him in...and that was the fault of Donald Rumsfeld, who didn't have enough troops and had a bad strategy........W also drove Osama Bin Laden out of Afghanistan....he did some good things....when the economy went down in his final two years that was the nail in his coffin.....