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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2014, 05:39:42 PM »
Quote from: Montague on January 30, 2014, 05:37:07 PM

Yep. They were on the way out regardless.
I remember wat hing the Jake Roberts dvd when Jake said Don Watts gave him shit for wanting to take a snake to the ring...claiming "this isnt a circus."
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2014, 05:42:55 PM »
Quote from: Playboy on January 30, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
I remember wat hing the Jake Roberts dvd when Jake said Don Watts gave him shit for wanting to take a snake to the ring...claiming "this isnt a circus."


Bill Watts?

He was so stuck in his outdated ways...
He was good for WCW when they brought him in in the 90's, but he took things too far in his direction. It may have been nice had he simply provided some levity to the operations, but Watts should never have been given full reign.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2014, 06:18:21 PM »
Quote from: Montague on January 30, 2014, 05:42:55 PM

Bill Watts?

He was so stuck in his outdated ways...
He was good for WCW when they brought him in in the 90's, but he took things too far in his direction. It may have been nice had he simply provided some levity to the operations, but Watts should never have been given full reign.
He ripped up Jake Roberts' 1.5mill per year WCW contract up back in1992 and gave him 200,000 per year base salary.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2014, 01:52:15 AM »
Quote from: Playboy on January 30, 2014, 06:18:21 PM
He ripped up Jake Roberts' 1.5mill per year WCW contract up back in1992 and gave him 200,000 per year base salary.


After a successful run in WWF...
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2014, 05:11:34 AM »
Quote from: Montague on January 31, 2014, 01:52:15 AM

After a successful run in WWF...
Apparently Jake set up the deal with Kip Frey but Frey has released by WCW and Watts didn't get along with Jake.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2014, 06:58:54 AM »
Quote from: Montague on January 30, 2014, 05:42:55 PM

Bill Watts?

He was so stuck in his outdated ways...
He was good for WCW when they brought him in in the 90's, but he took things too far in his direction. It may have been nice had he simply provided some levity to the operations, but Watts should never have been given full reign.

Watts screwed over a lot of guys at that time.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2014, 09:59:55 AM »
Quote from: Playboy on January 31, 2014, 05:11:34 AM
Apparently Jake set up the deal with Kip Frey but Frey has released by WCW and Watts didn't get along with Jake.


Was that because of Jakes old man?
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2014, 02:04:19 PM »
Quote from: Montague on January 31, 2014, 09:59:55 AM

Was that because of Jakes old man?
I believe so
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2014, 07:07:32 PM »
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2014, 05:15:49 PM »
Fyi...C.M Punk leaving WWE is not a work. He was reportedly upset with the way he was being  booked and furthermore he was pissed because of the poor booking of his former ROH partner...Daniel Bryan. It got to a point where Vince himself is handling that situation and he scolded both Vince and Stephanie for letting it get out of hand. Both WM and elimination chamber ppv's had to be rewritten. Punk is well off and can make huge income in AJPW and anywhere else overseas. Hes pissed because of guys like Batista and Brock being brought back part time for big money while others like DB have been passed over.

Monte, that came straight from the source.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2014, 05:19:07 PM »
Quote from: Playboy on February 03, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
Monte, that came straight from the source.


That's the best kind!!
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2014, 05:27:12 PM »
Quote from: Montague on February 03, 2014, 05:19:07 PM

That's the best kind!!
Thats the hidden message in his infamous pipe bomb when he said hes the voice of the voiceless. 
No one  else has the balls to speak up and know one can say shit about his work rate. Hes worked through injuries and leads the roster with the most worked dates per year. I can understand Vinces worry.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2014, 04:10:10 AM »
Theres alot of talk circulating in WWE that Alberto Del Rio is going to leave WWE once his contract expires due to being relegated from a Smackdown main eventer and world champion status to being someone used to give Batista momentum.

I dont blame the guy, i wouldnt want to be associated with anything WWE creative are putting out right now. He's just one of many that are being savaged by the lack of perspective being put on certain characters.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2014, 05:00:50 PM »
Quote from: GraniteCityDon on February 05, 2014, 04:10:10 AM
Theres alot of talk circulating in WWE that Alberto Del Rio is going to leave WWE once his contract expires due to being relegated from a Smackdown main eventer and world champion status to being someone used to give Batista momentum.

I dont blame the guy, i wouldnt want to be associated with anything WWE creative are putting out right now. He's just one of many that are being savaged by the lack of perspective being put on certain characters.
Yes...hes been wanting to retire for some time now.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2014, 11:45:36 PM »
Quote from: The Showstoppa on January 29, 2014, 07:02:49 AM
Sad that the workers have very little leverage with vince because of nowhere to go.  Man I hate VKM. 

Seems to me that professional wrestlers need to start talking with "Actor's Equity."
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2014, 01:57:42 AM »
Quote from: Novena on February 05, 2014, 11:45:36 PM
Seems to me that professional wrestlers need to start talking with "Actor's Equity."


They tried unionizing over 30 years ago, but those leading the charge were blackballed. Jesse Ventura and Roddy Piper are two of the best-known examples of that. The closest wrestlers have come to equality is having agents represent them the way that athletes and actors have agents.

Not surprisingly, Piper and Jesse were two of the first wrestlers to do this back in the late 80's. Jesse hooked up with Mike Braverman and Barry Bloom after he filmed Predator. Since then, many of the bigger industry names have gotten agent representation, with Bloom representing quite a few of them at one point.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2014, 03:01:07 AM »
"Actor's Equity" is an existing union representing stage actors.  Since professional wrestling is a stage show with performers on a stage, it would seem logical that they should represent the wrestlers.  Rather than start a new union from scratch.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2014, 04:00:30 PM »
Quote from: Novena on February 06, 2014, 03:01:07 AM
"Actor's Equity" is an existing union representing stage actors.  Since professional wrestling is a stage show with performers on a stage, it would seem logical that they should represent the wrestlers.  Rather than start a new union from scratch.


Oh, I agree. However, promoters have historically frowned on the idea.

Pro-wrestlers are athletes and actors, and get the benefits of neither.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2014, 05:31:38 PM »
Quote from: Montague on February 06, 2014, 04:00:30 PM

Oh, I agree. However, promoters have historically frowned on the idea.

Pro-wrestlers are athletes and actors, and get the benefits of neither.
They also need to implement some kind of healthcare system.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2014, 05:42:14 PM »
Quote from: Playboy on February 06, 2014, 05:31:38 PM
They also need to implement some kind of healthcare system.


The irony is that Vince used to take care of his top talent when it came to medical bills, even though they were the ones who could afford it. The mid-careers and below were screwed.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2014, 09:21:17 PM »
You would think the WWE would take care of their talent more.
When that girl spends over $50,000,000.00 on a stupid
Campaign she had no chance of winning  :-\
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2014, 01:06:10 AM »
Quote from: Montague on February 06, 2014, 04:00:30 PM

Oh, I agree. However, promoters have historically frowned on the idea.

Pro-wrestlers are athletes and actors, and get the benefits of neither.

Every employer has frowned on the idea of unions.  You have to get the political will of the country behind you to impose it on employers.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2014, 02:30:46 PM »
So far he's been called out by Phil Baroni, Mayhem Miller & Tomy the Green Ranger. He could make decent coin fighting one of these bums in MMA. Not saying he would win, but theyre great choices for testing the water if hes serious.
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #48 on: February 17, 2014, 05:36:06 PM »
Quote from: Montague on January 30, 2014, 05:42:55 PM

Bill Watts?

He was so stuck in his outdated ways...
He was good for WCW when they brought him in in the 90's, but he took things too far in his direction. It may have been nice had he simply provided some levity to the operations, but Watts should never have been given full reign.

Just watched the vid of the Rise and Fall of WCW and wrestlers talked about Watts bullying them.  Ron Simmons said he would actually hit guys.  WTF?  He was a big guy but even I wouldnt have let him smack me. 
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Re: CM Punk walks out of WWE - not a work
« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2014, 06:21:42 PM »
Quote from: The Showstoppa on February 17, 2014, 05:36:06 PM
Just watched the vid of the Rise and Fall of WCW and wrestlers talked about Watts bullying them.  Ron Simmons said he would actually hit guys.  WTF?  He was a big guy but even I wouldnt have let him smack me. 


I would think twice (or even three or four times) before hitting Simmons. I've heard enough stories about him in real life altercations.
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