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[Coach is Back!]

I really don't think anyone can answer that. Except atheists, because they know all. 

[tu_holmes]

I really don't think anyone can answer that. Except atheists, because they know all. 

But I asked what YOU believe... Do you believe it's only 6,000 years old?

Personally, your belief.

[The Scott]

But I asked what YOU believe... Do you believe it's only 6,000 years old?

Personally, your belief.

Hi, not the Coach but a Christian all the same so if I may?

I have no clue how old the earth is but I would imagine it is far older than 6,000 years.  It's likely that this hunk of rock is millions of years old and to be honest I could care less either way.   

The mental age of many of the people participating in this thread  is likely to be far less than 6,000 years.  Or even 12. 

Science is great!  It neither proves nor disproves the existence of God.  It is what it is, i.e., science.    You can't make a leap of faith in two jumps but any of us can make a fool of ourselves in a single sentence, myself included.  No, I don't speak for Coach nor any other Christian here, but I tend to think that the majority of those that believe in the Christ really don't care about such things as how old the earth is or how long it really took for all this to come to pass.  I look at it this way.

We don't tell  our little ones everything, do we?  We don't explain physics to babies.  I have yet to meet a mother or father (Christian or Atheist) that admits to reading technical manuals to an infant for their bedtime story.  Those children, those babies, would not understand a word.

How much more mankind?  Certainly we've progressed since the time of Moses (regarded as the author of the first five books of the Old Testament) and while we are still children, Moses and those of his time were even more uneducated than are we.  And so we have many of the stories from the Old Testament wherein things were explained in a fashion understandable for the time.   If there is a God (and I choose to believe there is and that Jesus is His Son),  all will be revealed in the full measure of time and our ability to understand it all.

Science neither adds to nor takes away from my faith.  It does add to my life but then so too does my faith albeit in a different way and for different reasons. 

Hopefully I have explained myself adequately.  If any choose to belittle me for my faith, so be it.  They're the ones acting as children. 
Be well.

[The True Adonis]

Everything perceived as a "benefit" from Christianity can be accomplished without it.

[The True Adonis]

[thebrink]

Bringing "religion" into a discussion about common sense. You people are all fucking nuts.

[The Scott]

Everything perceived as a "benefit" from Christianity can be accomplished without it.

One of the best men I have known in my brief lifetime was an Atheist but before that he was my friend.  We agreed to disagree on the matter of faith.  I see the concept of "friendship" is foreign to such as  you.  Allow me to play your role, little boy.

You are an asshole, afraid of what awaits you when none of us really knows what to expect.  And why not?  We all fear the unknown.  Think not, pussy?  Get dropped into the middle of the ocean, miles from shore and tread water until you feel something bump your meaty little legs.  And now for more of the truth.

You fear that which you know least of all.  Yourself.

I suspect that even if you never type it, your primary response to this would be the typical pussified one of that so often written here by others of your type when confronted with something so foreign to you, so inescapably truthful, i.e., "Meltdown!"  God, what a feeble individual you are.

Here's one for John.

Fuck your noise.  Asshole.


OneMoreRep?  Please forgive me this instance of rudeness.  I won't say that I couldn't stop myself for that would be a lie.  I like to think John (Reeves) is laughing his self silly right now from a better place.  

[galeniko]

why do whales have hip bones
?

[The Scott]

why do whales have hip bones
?

Why do idiots have brains?   Why don't dogs see in color?  Why do men have nipples?  Why are some people murderers?  Why are there midgets?  Why are some races smarter while others are faster?  Why are some people fat and others are skinny?  Why don't dogs and cats live together in harmony?  If dolphins are so freaking intelligent how come they don't have iPods?  Why can't some bodybuilders train without drugs? 

Why?   Good question, but you already knew the answer to yours.  They likely evolved or in this case, de-evolved back into the ocean because they were too HUGE to walk on land.  Why would you ask a question like that other than to make a point everyone already knew?  It's not very original of you nor was it clever.  So why would you do it? 

To reaffirm your belief in evolution.  Nothing wrong with that. 

[galeniko]

Why do idiots have brains?   Why don't dogs see in color?  Why do men have nipples?  Why are some people murderers?  Why are there midgets?  Why are some races smarter while others are faster?  Why are some people fat and others are skinny?  Why don't dogs and cats live together in harmony?  If dolphins are so freaking intelligent how come they don't have iPods?  Why can't some bodybuilders train without drugs? 

Why?   Good question, but you already knew the answer to yours.  They likely evolved or in this case, de-evolved back into the ocean because they were too HUGE to walk on land.  Why would you ask a question like that other than to make a point everyone already knew?  It's not very original of you nor was it clever.  So why would you do it? 

To reaffirm your belief in evolution.  Nothing wrong with that. 

calm down broad and change your ob

[The Scott]

calm down broad and change your ob

Try to be as intelligent as I know you are.

[Zillotch]

Try to be as intelligent as I know you are.

You've just proven yourself to be clueless. 

[tu_holmes]

Hi, not the Coach but a Christian all the same so if I may?

I have no clue how old the earth is but I would imagine it is far older than 6,000 years.  It's likely that this hunk of rock is millions of years old and to be honest I could care less either way.   

The mental age of many of the people participating in this thread  is likely to be far less than 6,000 years.  Or even 12. 

Science is great!  It neither proves nor disproves the existence of God.  It is what it is, i.e., science.    You can't make a leap of faith in two jumps but any of us can make a fool of ourselves in a single sentence, myself included.  No, I don't speak for Coach nor any other Christian here, but I tend to think that the majority of those that believe in the Christ really don't care about such things as how old the earth is or how long it really took for all this to come to pass.  I look at it this way.

We don't tell  our little ones everything, do we?  We don't explain physics to babies.  I have yet to meet a mother or father (Christian or Atheist) that admits to reading technical manuals to an infant for their bedtime story.  Those children, those babies, would not understand a word.

How much more mankind?  Certainly we've progressed since the time of Moses (regarded as the author of the first five books of the Old Testament) and while we are still children, Moses and those of his time were even more uneducated than are we.  And so we have many of the stories from the Old Testament wherein things were explained in a fashion understandable for the time.   If there is a God (and I choose to believe there is and that Jesus is His Son),  all will be revealed in the full measure of time and our ability to understand it all.

Science neither adds to nor takes away from my faith.  It does add to my life but then so too does my faith albeit in a different way and for different reasons. 

Hopefully I have explained myself adequately.  If any choose to belittle me for my faith, so be it.  They're the ones acting as children. 
Be well.

I don't really care about your religion... I don't buy into it, but it's your right to believe whatever you want.

That said, if the book is historical as you all say it is and Adam and Eve were the first 2 people on earth, as it says, then the earth must be only 6,000 years old.

However, as you said, you don't believe that it is.

The problem with using religion as a scientific context is that it's been shown to be incorrect in many areas.

If it's wrong about one thing, how can you trust it to be right about anything.

[The True Adonis]

why do whales have hip bones
?

Uh, because they are mammals and used to have legs when they were land dwelling  wolf-like animals.

Galeniko, you really don`t know any of this stuff? 

[The True Adonis]

Why do idiots have brains?   Why don't dogs see in color?  Why do men have nipples?  Why are some people murderers?  Why are there midgets?  Why are some races smarter while others are faster?  Why are some people fat and others are skinny?  Why don't dogs and cats live together in harmony?  If dolphins are so freaking intelligent how come they don't have iPods?  Why can't some bodybuilders train without drugs? 

Why?   Good question, but you already knew the answer to yours.  They likely evolved or in this case, de-evolved back into the ocean because they were too HUGE to walk on land.  Why would you ask a question like that other than to make a point everyone already knew?  It's not very original of you nor was it clever.  So why would you do it? 

To reaffirm your belief in evolution.  Nothing wrong with that. 

Dogs do see in color.

[The True Adonis]

Why do idiots have brains?   Why don't dogs see in color?  Why do men have nipples?  Why are some people murderers?  Why are there midgets?  Why are some races smarter while others are faster?  Why are some people fat and others are skinny?  Why don't dogs and cats live together in harmony?  If dolphins are so freaking intelligent how come they don't have iPods?  Why can't some bodybuilders train without drugs? 

Why?   Good question, but you already knew the answer to yours.  They likely evolved or in this case, de-evolved back into the ocean because they were too HUGE to walk on land.  Why would you ask a question like that other than to make a point everyone already knew?  It's not very original of you nor was it clever.  So why would you do it? 

To reaffirm your belief in evolution.  Nothing wrong with that. 

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/200810/can-dogs-see-colors

Jay Neitz at the University of California, Santa Barbara, tested the color vision of dogs. For many test trials, dogs were shown three light panels in a row--two of the panels were the same color, while the third was different. The dogs' task was to find the one that was different and to press that panel. If the dog was correct, he was rewarded with a treat that the computer delivered to the cup below that panel.


Neitz confirmed that dogs actually do see color

[alabama ftw]

why do whales have hip bones
?

All the drugs have fucked up your brain

[The True Adonis]

Hope this helps.

[Wolfox]

Fuck this debate. There is no debate. A debate with a creationist does nothing but serve to legitimize their asinine beliefs.

Never argue with a retard.

[muscleman-2013]

http://debatelive.org/

Does Nye explain why Africans and Arabs are such pure fucking scum?  Or is there a better explanation in the bible?

[alabama ftw]

Fuck this debate. There is no debate. A debate with a creationist does nothing but serve to legitimize their asinine beliefs.

Never argue with a retard.

X2
You never see a "debate" between a holocaust denier and a ww2 historian.

[Radical Plato]

Why are GOD botherers EVIL ??

[Coach is Back!]

I don't really care about your religion... I don't buy into it, but it's your right to believe whatever you want.

That said, if the book is historical as you all say it is and Adam and Eve were the first 2 people on earth, as it says, then the earth must be only 6,000 years old.

However, as you said, you don't believe that it is.

The problem with using religion as a scientific context is that it's been shown to be incorrect in many areas.

If it's wrong about one thing, how can you trust it to be right about anything.

Despite what you think people believe, there is nothing in the bible that indicates the age of the earth. Hope this helps.

[alabama ftw]

Despite what you think people believe, there is nothing in the bible that indicates the age of the earth. Hope this helps.

As usual when your crap gets you in to a corner you plead the fifth every fucking time you do that.

[BigCyp]

Not wanting to debate here (as it's getbig.com = humour not sorting the universe) but I always wondered why, when we have discovered 1000's of intact skeletons of dinosaurs, whales, monkeys, fish, wolves etc etc but never a SINGLE skeleton of the 'halfway phase' of these creatures while they were supposedly evolved?

Yes, the odd mishaped skull, or toe bone has been found, and then an entire artwork/sculpture has been fabricated around that single bone (lol) for display in scientific museums (haha) - but why never a full skeleton when supposedly there are billions of dead semi evolved apes for example.

This question is not in the context of religion or age of the earth, just something that has always bothered me - even if I subscribed to the Theory of Evolution, I would still wonder this?