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[FermiDirac]

the getbig principles and cutler documentation on bodybuilding have scared me from bench presses


supposedly the number one pec tear off exercise, doesn't even need to be a big weight


so i'm scared now i just use the machine press and dumbels

Pec tear is usually due to the lifter being a slob in regards to technique.

Same with all these bodybuilders who doesn't squat or deadlift due to some old fake lower back injury. Just a bunch of lazy idiots who had sloppy form in their late teens/twenties and performed the lifts with shitty technique. Just a bunch of clueless idiots.

You won't tear shit with proper technique and not going for ego lifts.

[Disgusted]

Could def be natural.

[Ace]

2" rom is not a bench he's right you fuck head

 

[supernaturalbodybuilder]

my all time best bench natural bench press was

1x135kg

5x115kg


ipf approved reps of course because i was hardcore it was the obvious choice to make

[Donny]

my all time best bench natural bench press was

1x135kg

5x115kg


ipf approved reps of course because i was hardcore it was the obvious choice to make

5x115kg is good by my Standards. I have always struggled with bench press.

[supernaturalbodybuilder]

5x115kg is good by my Standards. I have always struggled with bench press.

but this bostitch natural friend

repping 3 plates

 

[FermiDirac]

my all time best bench natural bench press was

1x135kg

5x115kg


ipf approved reps of course because i was hardcore it was the obvious choice to make

I thought you did 9 reps at 110kg  

[headhuntersix]

So to bench 335 you have to juice.....what the hell is a matter with you.

[supernaturalbodybuilder]

I thought you did 9 reps at 110kg  

that was anabolichalo

[FermiDirac]

that was anabolichalo my main account

Fixed 

[Icelord]

A cursory appraisal of his skin texture, lack of shoulder/arm vascularity, modest shoulder/trap/chest density, and small forearms suggests he's as natural a raindrop.

[Icelord]

in that case

strong dude

all the way strong dude

I would say compared to 90% of the naturals at my gym, he's strong as an ox. I have benched 3 plates with 10s on each side for 3 reps with pause, but I was using creatine and was at least 210. He looks lighter than that for sure, given his small joints.

[FermiDirac]

I would say compared to 90% of the naturals at my gym, he's strong as an ox. I have benched 3 plates with 10s on each side for 3 reps with pause, but I was using creatine and was at least 210. He looks lighter than that for sure, given his small joints.

He's an Oompa Loompa. Hope this helps.

[Icelord]

He's an Oompa Loompa. Hope this helps.

I gave him no more than 5'5" so yeah, that was sort of a given.

[ProudVirgin69]

I would say compared to 90% of the naturals at my gym, he's strong as an ox. I have benched 3 plates with 10s on each side for 3 reps with pause, but I was using creatine and was at least 210. He looks lighter than that for sure, given his small joints.

Well that explains why you were so strong, but we're talking NATURALS

[Icelord]

Well that explains why you were so strong, but we're talking NATURALS

Anything that isn't a steroid or GH or slin is natural. It's just a question of gradation. There's different degrees of natural. And there's no reason to believe he isn't on over-the-counter supps. So...

[MAXX]

Anything that isn't a steroid or GH or slin is natural. It's just a question of gradation. There's different degrees of natural. And there's no reason to believe he isn't on over-the-counter supps. So...

natural means no hormones.

what other drugs would have a positive effect for bb'ing?

creatine is useless

[Icelord]

natural means no hormones.

what other drugs would have a positive effect for bb'ing?

creatine is useless

Correct. It is virtually useless other than filling out your muscles with more water, therefore slightly increasing their density. But since I don't make personal lift claims without being 100% transparent, I felt the need to mention it anyway.

The simplest way to define natural vs. unnatural is like you said. Otherwise how far can you go with that? You could argue someone who uses a protein shake is unnatural, since it doesn't come from a naturally-growing plant or animal source. Same with glutamine, vitamins, etc. Pretty much prohormones are the only over-the-counters that I would qualify as juicing, even if it's not a full steroid.

[njflex]

Correct. It is virtually useless other than filling out your muscles with more water, therefore slightly increasing their density. But since I don't make personal lift claims without being 100% transparent, I felt the need to mention it anyway.

The simplest way to define natural vs. unnatural is like you said. Otherwise how far can you go with that? You could argue someone who uses a protein shake is unnatural, since it doesn't come from a naturally-growing plant or animal source. Same with glutamine, vitamins, etc. Pretty much prohormones are the only over-the-counters that I would qualify as juicing, even if it's not a full steroid.

SOME ARE FULL ON STEROIDS'DIRTY'VERSIONS AND SOMETIMES MORE HARMFUL THAN OTHER 'REAL ORALS'INJECTABLES.

[BAST]

what is the body weight of that guy. 

[Teutonic Knight]

what kind of figures are we talking here

i understand he promotes supplements


would be funny if he get paid an endorsement like an olympian

or like you leopold promoting cuban life style 

[dustin]

My first steroid was Superdrol and at 170-172lbs I benched 350lbs for reps. It's not unbelievable at all. I'm not a strong fucker but I was just consistent and determined.

I've seen lots of kids at my gym, definitely natural, bench three plates as well. All under 180-190lbs. I don't know why anyone would think that's impossible or even hard.

[Icelord]

My first steroid was Superdrol and at 170-172lbs I benched 350lbs for reps. It's not unbelievable at all. I'm not a strong fucker but I was just consistent and determined.

I've seen lots of kids at my gym, definitely natural, bench three plates as well. All under 180-190lbs. I don't know why anyone would think that's impossible or even hard.

I can't explain it. This was in 2008, when I was 23 and had just returned to the gym after an 8 month break. Within 2 months of training, by no means with any supplements other than a scoop of creatine for a few weeks (which I then threw away), my bench went from doing 25s on each side flat bench to 225 for 10 reps, and then 315 for 3, with pause. I was strong as fuck in my own eyes at the time. And now, 6 years later, I eat just as much and have been training consistently for 3 months, and can't do 225 for more than 2 reps. I'm baffled, because my body weight is like 30lbs more than it was back then. I still get sick pumps and my chest gets so tight I can't cross my arms in front of me or take off my shirt, but...yeah, I hate being weak.

My theory is that when you're "on" something, you can lift 50-80lbs more just because you mentally think you're juiced. Even if you're not. So real steroids must be insane for strength gains.

[old-school-lifter]

this Nick Wrigt guy is NOT l;ifetime nattie

he's used before but in the video is probably drug free

he looks like Bostin when Bostin is off drugs, the softer fuller  smoother look

look Wrights thick arms, delts, chest = used steroids before

[TEMPER]

And here is a half retarded 150lb crippled woman benching 330lbs easily...Hope this helps.