Dont listen to this fuckwit, he talks about stories hes heard rather than experiences he's had
Listen to Gal, he has walked the walk.
So have I by the way. 
250mgs of test for a year is better than 2x 12 weeks of 3gms a week.
Do what you want to do, as Gal says people seldom listen, you have to learn for yourself.
thanks mate, very nice endorsement
always always keep the dose as small as possible and thats that.but run it non stop.
all the science is well, not meaningless, but flawed, im the kind of person who actualy have looked into the scientific studies, have access to great info bc girl is,uhm, working in that field, and i seen the flaws and how someone who hasnt been there could confuse it with reality.
for example, 250test administration into males vs 500test.lean mass gains were pretty much exactly the double in the 500mg group.
sounds nice on paper, but it doesnt transfrom as such into reality.
first, lean gains doesnt mean pure muscle in the mirror, its just more water and nothing else, water doesnt show up as fat when bodyfat is measured.
second, how long can ppl run 500mg of (real,pharmaceutical)test vefore running into problems?the answer is in that above study itself,ironicaly.they have double the water retention than the 250mg group, every ex gearhead will know its not muscle,its water(it might translate into bit more muscle later on indirectly,through lifting heavuer etc).
this means, already consequences on bloodpressure,htey are already quite bloated.and this means side effects already.immedieate, long term too.
and what happens if they go off or reduce?both will feel like coming off entirely.gains come to a halt or regress even.mind you,they made no more muscle gains realy than the 250mg group.
things like that become only obvious when you been there.
not many will be able to run 500mg real test year round wo roblems.ok sure can add adex and whatever to fight the sides, but thats bit going for the alleged goal,isnt it.
wolfox also repetedly said dbol is the ultimate mass bringer.its not, first its a very liver toxic oral, second can be run for what 2 months before the liver says nah no more, and before tolerance build up.in the meanwhile, all one will build is bloat only.
if one had cuts before the dbol, he can kiss them good bye within few weeks of dbol use,they will just fade away one after the other.
it has etremly terrible estrogen conversion ratio,its terrible.
and then you go off, feel like shit from lowered dosager and literaly piss out all the bloat gained in 1 week.the bloat has helped to hold some water and thus lift heavier but it wont translate to good gains bc youll be off it before th body does the major adaptions.
oral are useful as training booster maybe, and last 2 weeks or so before contest,where gymrats never ever go anyway mostly.
and yes on 500mg test,i repeat, something like bayer test fro,m pharmacy,even on clean dieting no cheat day, will be a bloated mes even in caloric deficit.
some ppl might say yeah but gal isnt too big, well come see me in person if you think thats small, and i used to be an easy 50lbs heavier when young and megadosing, but im actualy too embarassed to talk about that time, it looked no good, wasnt fat, but that was no good look.been there,no worries.the stretchmarks everywhere are testimony to that time.
galeniko:
do you think dose should be higher when cutting e.g. 1.5 amps test a week when dieting vs 1 amp when eating more?
nah bro, maybe 1 while maintaining, and for the cutting, same test dose or even less and can add either tren or mast 200orso weekly and thats it.
can be done on same only test dose, only change being little bit more frequent inection.
to look the very best, when already shredded, go off everything.the next 2-3 weeks youll look your very best.if enanthate was used.from day 10 the water will prety much all be gone.
but too much test isnt good for dieting i swear it holds back fatburning.not even adex will stop all the estrogen when theres too much test.
but yeah little bit tren or mast for that time are the best choices and wont really hurt.
sure, this isnt a recipe to become a monster, becoming a mass monster is much much harder than many think, its not-unlike some say-a matter of only enough steroids and or gh, it just is not, but im standing there with enough mass any time of the year, shredded.
if i go off, i hardly lose anything, bit glycogen volume goes down, vascularity goes bit down, and slightly bit more bodyfat.
much preferable to totaly crashing down from gramms,or coming down from 1 gramm to 250weekly(Terrible feeling too).
blood pressure 120-80, heart resting rate 50, good cholesterol too high bad too low.perfect liver paramters, hell even kidneys good.
preference i guess, i wont to lok exact this way year round, more mass,despite some wanting to make it sound easy, is of no interest to me.
irl, only the heavyweight competitors dwarf me,and its not even so bad, not that id care anyway.
and lol i mean amateurs ,not mr o competitors.
must be realistic before saying things like want be bigger than gal, first get to this level and then see.itll take longer than many think.
How the fuck do you know?
I take 250mgs of test and Im fine, if I take 500mgs I feel shitty, sounds like double the sides to me.
actualy the sides are 10fold.i get none form 250, and all kinds from 500.all kinds.
