Why the West Fears Putin

[alabama ftw]

That Fatgina looks plumpy and delicious. Stop hating.

You are the fattest person on getbig bro. hypocrite?

[MikMaq]

Lol nobody fears him he's a pain in the fucking ass, but he's still a white man. A war with Russia would last days. The US would over power them instantly, and Ironically because of russia geography they couldn't turn it into some type of gureilla war.

It's amazing how powerful the guy actually is and how powerful people think he could be.

[FermiDirac]

Lol nobody fears him he's a pain in the fucking ass, but he's still a white man. A war with Russia would last days. The US would over power them instantly, and Ironically because of russia geography they couldn't turn it into some type of gureilla war.

It's amazing how powerful the guy actually is and how powerful people think he could be.

A war with Russia would end in thermonuclear weapons. Any country with this power knows the stupidity in aggravating another country with such power.

"Overpower" of peace.

[galeniko]

hes not loose cannon or screws, hes simply an opponent, not a victim.

the west seeks victims to assault, never opponents.

[SuperTed]

I'm a fan of Putin. 

[FermiDirac]

hes not loose cannon or screws, hes simply an opponent, not a victim.

the west seeks victims to assault, never opponents.

Well said!

Just look at how the globalists work;

1) If the country is of little to no threat => destabilize, invade and subjugate (Iraq, Afghanistan etc)

2) If the country is too strong to be taken by force and does not comply with the western agenda => demonise and sanction the country (Iran, China, Russia etc)

[Roger Bacon]

Well said!

Just look at how the globalists work;

1) If the country is of little to no threat => destabilize, invade and subjugate (Iraq, Afghanistan etc)

2) If the country is too strong to be taken by force and does not comply with the western agenda => demonise and sanction the country (Iran, China, Russia etc)

Wesley Clark said back in 2007 that we would institute regime change in seven nations in five years.

Wesley Clark also says there's no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states.

"There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That is a 19th-century idea, and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states".

[galeniko]

Wesley Clark said back in 2007 that we would institute regime change in seven nations in five years.

Wesley Clark also says there's no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states.

haha there is, albania is quite "Pure"

is clark american? hows the usa ethnicaly pure?

what is ethnicity?

for anyone looking back far enough in history, this term ethnicity becomes weird

[_aj_]

Wesley Clark said back in 2007 that we would institute regime change in seven nations in five years.

Wesley Clark also says there's no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states.

"There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That is a 19th-century idea, and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states".

Wes Clark is also a thorough retard. His platform running as a democrat was beneath contempt.

[_aj_]

Because he's a loose cannon and he's unpredictable. (And he won't back down because he knows our current leader will not take a hard line with him.) That's why.

IMHO, he's not unpredictable in the slightest. As a matter of fact, his actions have almost been Pavlovian in their predictability, if one is willing to see with clear eyes what he wants. He was very calculating in this latest gambit, waiting until Obama's numbers were almost as low as they could go, and Europe reeling from another super cold winter. He even has the calculated audacity to use the Germany-invades-Austria rationale for his annexation of Crimea.

As a matter of fact, his actions/reactions are so predictable, that if we were able to get inside his OODA loop, we could spin him like a top. But we would need clear-eyed, steely leadership at the top, and that shit does not exist in our credentialed political class anymore. So, we watch as another Slavic strongman attempts to eat half the world.

[Shockwave]

IMHO, he's not unpredictable in the slightest. As a matter of fact, his actions have almost been Pavlovian in their predictability, if one is willing to see with clear eyes what he wants. He was very calculating in this latest gambit, waiting until Obama's numbers were almost as low as they could go, and Europe reeling from another super cold winter. He even has the calculated audacity to use the Germany-invades-Austria rationale for his annexation of Crimea.

As a matter of fact, his actions/reactions are so predictable, that if we were able to get inside his OODA loop, we could spin him like a top. But we would need clear-eyed, steely leadership at the top, and that shit does not exist in our credentialed political class anymore. So, we watch as another Slavic strongman attempts to eat half the world,

I agree. Unpredictable wasnt quite the right phrase.

my point was that he does what hes going to do without regard for the US or Europes bullshit political threats.

[_aj_]

I agree. Unpredictable wasnt quite the right phrase.

my point was that he does what hes going to do without regard for the US or Europes bullshit political threats.

Absolutely. As a matter of fact, he's hoping that we draw more toothless "red lines" (like our plastic-faced SECSTATE did recently), so he can continue to draw the world's attention to the fecklessness of the west right now.

He also knows that it is a game of time now, as Americans, as neutered as we appear at the moment, are makers of history, should our resolve become hardened. Putin is smart enough to see that if he pushes the west far enough, we can respond in a hugely damaging way.

Imagine, oh, a President AJ, the first day in office, via EO, rescinds all regulations against fracking and shale oil exploration and directs the DOE to approve 250 permits for gen4 nuclear reactors. Then he sends a bill to Congress for a trans-Atlantic natgas pipe.

You don't think that Putin would be caged at that moment? There are a lot of arrows in our quiver that aren't nuclear tipped.

[Roger Bacon]

Absolutely. As a matter of fact, he's hoping that we draw more toothless "red lines" (like our plastic-faced SECSTATE did recently), so he can continue to draw the world's attention to the fecklessness of the west right now.

He also knows that it is a game of time now, as Americans, as neutered as we appear at the moment, are makers of history, should our resolve become hardened. Putin is smart enough to see that if he pushes the west far enough, we can respond in a hugely damaging way.

Imagine, oh, a President AJ, the first day in office, via EO, rescinds all regulations against fracking and shale oil exploration and directs the DOE to approve 250 permits for gen4 nuclear reactors. Then he sends a bill to Congress for a trans-Atlantic natgas pipe.

You don't think that Putin would be caged at that moment? There are a lot of arrows in our quiver that aren't nuclear tipped.

Western leaders all seem to be following (to a large degree) the same undemocratic globalist agenda, and giving up their sovereignty. Can you admire the very rare fact that in today's world, a major world leader represents the interests of his country first?

[_aj_]

Western leaders all seem to be following (to a large degree) the same undemocratic globalist agenda, and giving up their sovereignty. Is it wrong to admire the rare fact that Putin as a major world leader represents the interests of his country first?

You can admire it, sure. I just hope somebody puts him back in his box soon. He plays for the other team.

And let's not get carried away for where his interests lie. I am sure that they are primarily directed at his personal bank account.

[FermiDirac]

Western leaders all seem to be following (to a large degree) the same undemocratic globalist agenda, and giving up their sovereignty. Is it wrong to admire the rare fact that Putin as a major world leader represents the interests of his country first?

But how will the corporate mega banks survive if sovereignty has priority?

[Roger Bacon]

You can admire it, sure. I just hope somebody puts him back in his box soon. He plays for the other team.

And let's not get carried away for where his interests lie. I am sure that they are primarily directed at his personal bank account.

Oh no, I understand that well...

Just glad to see the globalist maniacs aren't completely unchecked.

[Roger Bacon]

But how will the corporate mega banks survive if sovereignty has priority?

Good point...  We're getting somewhere now....

And how can sovereignty survive when every civilized country has been Balkanized by various types of third worlders from failed states around the world?

Hmmmmm, these globalists are brilliant  

[Kim Jong Bob]

Because he's a loose cannon and he's unpredictable. (And he won't back down because he knows our current leader will not take a hard line with him.) That's why.

many nations see usa as a loose cannon, you goverment even lies to their own people just to get a reason to start a war.  So usa and russia is not that far away from eachother

[Kim Jong Bob]

Well said!

Just look at how the globalists work;

1) If the country is of little to no threat => destabilize, invade and subjugate (Iraq, Afghanistan etc)

2) If the country is too strong to be taken by force and does not comply with the western agenda => demonise and sanction the country (Iran, China, Russia etc)

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[Lustral]

Good man tbombz, well said

Same deal with the power grab in Washington D.C. and Brussels.

At least voters can influence who is in power in D.C. So many eurocrats are just pushed there by governments. They want a federal Europe but never stopped to ask if anybody else wants it.

In everything they do they act like they know what's best for us all - ridiculous labour laws, safety rules, currency, centralised interest rate. I was pro Europe when I was younger but they are destroying national identities and out of touch with what people want.

[Shockwave]

At least voters can influence who is in power in D.C. So many eurocrats are just pushed there by governments. They want a federal Europe but never stopped to ask if anybody else wants it.

In everything they do they act like they know what's best for us all - ridiculous labour laws, safety rules, currency, centralised interest rate. I was pro Europe when I was younger but they are destroying national identities and out of touch with what people want.

many Germans complained about this as well. That brussels just forces things on the EU because they thunk they know whats best, with no actual vote, and the officials telling them how to live their lives were appointed, no5 elected, that many are radical idealists who seep bent 9n destroying any sense of national pride or identity, and anytime a country has the balls to stand up to the EU and make some individual choices on whats best for their country when if it flies in the face of the EUs ideological agenda (like Switzerland), Brussels throws a hissy fit and threatens to fuck them uo economically.

the German's were especially pissed they had to pay for Greece, and Italy and Spain, and that they lose 45% of their wages to the government.
oh, and Switzerland has single payer but they STILL have to pay out of pocket for medical procedures.

WTF?

[pissant]

Because he's a loose cannon and he's unpredictable. (And he won't back down because he knows our current leader will not take a hard line with him.) That's why.

loose cannon yet we invaded 2 countries in the past decade or so. Drone bomb civilians. have the highest incarceration rates in the western world.

but this putin guy who invades his neighbor to secure a port theyve had for 200 years is surely a loose cannon lol. PLEASE

[alabama ftw]

many nations see usa as a loose cannon, you goverment even lies to their own people just to get a reason to start a war.  So usa and russia is not that far away from eachother

[Shockwave]

loose cannon yet we invaded 2 countries in the past decade or so. Drone bomb civilians. have the highest incarceration rates in the western world.

but this putin guy who invades his neighbor to secure a port theyve had for 200 years is surely a loose cannon lol. PLEASE

As i've said earlier, he's a loose cannon in the sense that he won't respond to the EU's or US's threats and does what he pleases.

Jesus Christ everyone gets bent out of shape and starts screaming "!NOOONONONOONO THE US IS THE LOOSE CANNON ZOMG WERE SO EVIL!"

Yes, we do what we what, I know.

[pissant]

As i've said earlier, he's a loose cannon in the sense that he won't respond to the EU's or US's threats and does what he pleases.

Jesus Christ everyone gets bent out of shape and starts screaming "!NOOONONONOONO THE US IS THE LOOSE CANNON ZOMG WERE SO EVIL!"

Yes, we do what we what, I know.

so you admit to being a moron for using that statement? You are brainwashed if you think putin is some kinda belligerent. Thats exactly the picture they want to paint. OMGZ HES EX KGB, OMG HES SECURED A PORT THEYVE USED FOR 200 YEARS.
 
oh wait wasnt gw bush senior head of the cia?! Havent we been at war since ww2 with nearly every country on the globe?

Always easier to point a finger at the other guy but never yourself. Its a bias we all have inherited.