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« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2014, 01:17:51 AM »

Not to say "I told ya so," but...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=520112.0

Karl pretty much called it, as well. Undertaker is an Old School guy. This was probably his last match. In a podcast, shortly before he passed, Paul Bearer mentioned that Taker's body was wrecked form all the pounding and wouldn't wrestle for much longer.
Not sure if its real or kayfabe but but apparently Taker was hospitalized with a bad concussion after the match. I never thought id see the streak end but because it did I believe Brock will be around a lot longer than people think. Taker:
Two hip replacements
Shoulder surgeries
Knee surgeries
two previous torn biceps.

Hes 50 years old give or take. Hes done.
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« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2014, 01:56:29 AM »

Guys You always go out on your back. Taker is very old school. I would expect him to come out on Raw tomorrow night and give a speech.
Just think now there will be interviews and DVDs with him which we have never gotten before.



I hope he goes that route. It would provide something fresh and original for fans as opposed to a fifth Shawn Michaels Anthology DVD. I can see Taker doing it because, while a traditionalist, it's easy to see how many old-school greats have spoken out of character in doing post-retirement projects such as shoot interviews and autobiographies. Taker could easily make a fortune from it, as well as the Fed.
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« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2014, 04:13:57 AM »

Not sure if its real or kayfabe but but apparently Taker was hospitalized with a bad concussion after the match. I never thought id see the streak end but because it did I believe Brock will be around a lot longer than people think. Taker:
Two hip replacements
Shoulder surgeries
Knee surgeries
two previous torn biceps.

Hes 50 years old give or take. Hes done.


I knew he had the hip issue, but I didn't realize he had that many surgeries. All that rehab gets tiring after awhile no matter how tough you are.

It comes down to what Karl said about going out on your back. It's what's "Best for business."

A Brock vs Bryan Summerslam seems like a bigger draw, now, doesn't it?
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« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2014, 05:16:45 AM »

Great points..
I think taker couldn't do it anymore. that's why he lost to make Brock look as the man that broke the streak..
Sting vs. Brock at wrestlemania..
Sting going over Brock..
I bet they signed sting 2 years...
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« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2014, 05:17:11 AM »

Stupid.
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« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2014, 05:19:29 AM »

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« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2014, 05:23:50 AM »

Not your statement. Brock beating taker is stupid.

I have no opinion on your theory.
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« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2014, 06:23:15 AM »

Plus Undertaker suffered a legit back injury and a concussion early in that match. Hes old and done and looking at the big picture its whats best for the business.
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« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2014, 07:13:40 AM »

Not your statement. Brock beating taker is stupid.

I have no opinion on your theory.

What are your thoughts on what is next for Brock or taker?
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« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2014, 07:28:36 AM »

Orton figures to claim foul because he never got pinned. Could be Orton/Lesnar which sets up Bryan/Lesnar.

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« Reply #60 on: April 07, 2014, 07:54:07 AM »

What are your thoughts on what is next for Brock or taker?

Taker done... Lesnar sucks as usual.

I would not have had an issue with it happening to someone who was legitimately best for the WWE, but we've all seen Lesnar come and go a few times, so I don't like the idea that he's the one to break it.

And as I said in another thread... I'm not an Undertaker fan.
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« Reply #61 on: April 07, 2014, 08:14:24 AM »

I am still in shock over this. But now will UT show up tomorrow announcing retirement?

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« Reply #62 on: April 07, 2014, 08:21:23 AM »

I think Brock will be around for a while.

He said the reason he left, the first time, was because "The devil was always knocking on his door."

Things are different, now. It's not a bunch of guys in a car. The top guys travel rockstar style in their own tour buses.

Plus, when his WWE contract ends, he'll be 37. That's prime for a pro wrestler but old for an MMA fighter, especially one coming off a long layoff and who didn't have top tier MMA skills to begin with. Moreover, I don't see a Hollywood career in his future.

IMO, WWE is his best bet.
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« Reply #63 on: April 07, 2014, 08:32:18 AM »

I think Brock will be around for a while.

He said the reason he left, the first time, was because "The devil was always knocking on his door."

Things are different, now. It's not a bunch of guys in a car. The top guys travel rockstar style in their own tour buses.

Plus, when his WWE contract ends, he'll be 37. That's prime for a pro wrestler but old for an MMA fighter, especially one coming off a long layoff and who didn't have top tier MMA skills to begin with. Moreover, I don't see a Hollywood career in his future.

IMO, WWE is his best bet.

Lesnar was born in 1977. He'll be 37 in July. So does that mean that his contract is up this year? If that's that's the case and he decides not to renew, that makes his win over Taker as a part-time wrestler a bigger joke than ever.

I guarantee that Taker announces his retirement very soon. He looks like shit, physically. Sadly, I'm not sure Mark Callaway lives past his 60's.
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« Reply #64 on: April 07, 2014, 08:48:12 AM »

I think Brock will be around for a while.

He said the reason he left, the first time, was because "The devil was always knocking on his door."

Things are different, now. It's not a bunch of guys in a car. The top guys travel rockstar style in their own tour buses.

Plus, when his WWE contract ends, he'll be 37. That's prime for a pro wrestler but old for an MMA fighter, especially one coming off a long layoff and who didn't have top tier MMA skills to begin with. Moreover, I don't see a Hollywood career in his future.

IMO, WWE is his best bet.


Concur.
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« Reply #65 on: April 07, 2014, 08:58:36 AM »

Lesnar was making a MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR when he left.

A MILLION.

1, and 6 zeros then a period and another 2 zeros.

He had a private jet THEN.

You can't possibly tell me that he didn't have incentive to stay then.
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« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2014, 09:33:07 AM »

Lesnar was making a MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR when he left.

A MILLION.

1, and 6 zeros then a period and another 2 zeros.

He had a private jet THEN.

You can't possibly tell me that he didn't have incentive to stay then.


I don't know that his ego could ever get over the fact that, despite all the fame and wealth, it's still a "fake sport." I'd heard that quite a few legit fighters/wrestlers/athletes had some difficulty adapting to theatrical wrestling around the 2000 timeframe, and I believe Brock was one of them.

For the amount of work and wear on his body, UFC was more lucrative. Plus, he was now a "legitimate" athlete once again.
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« Reply #67 on: April 07, 2014, 09:45:52 AM »

Stock market certainly didn't like it.

The market as a whole has been tanking, recently, but a 20% drop in a day is something else.

Could be the buy rates didn't live up to expectations.


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« Reply #68 on: April 07, 2014, 09:47:38 AM »


I don't know that his ego could ever get over the fact that, despite all the fame and wealth, it's still a "fake sport." I'd heard that quite a few legit fighters/wrestlers/athletes had some difficulty adapting to theatrical wrestling around the 2000 timeframe, and I believe Brock was one of them.

For the amount of work and wear on his body, UFC was more lucrative. Plus, he was now a "legitimate" athlete once again.

And got his face pummeled for it.

Not to mention he had that Intestinal stuff... Fuck all that. (Sure they are probably not related, but still... it happened)
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« Reply #69 on: April 07, 2014, 09:48:55 AM »

Stock certainly didn't like it.

The market as a whole has been tanking, recently, but a 20% drop in a day is something else.

Could be the buy rates didn't live up to expectations.





Wow, maybe the revenue brought in by the network hasn't offset the drop in PPV buy rates we know will accompany it.
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« Reply #70 on: April 07, 2014, 09:50:37 AM »

Didn't he also try out for the NFL?

These avenues are no longer options. Vince's money is looking pretty good right now.
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« Reply #71 on: April 07, 2014, 09:50:42 AM »

And got his face pummeled for it.

Not to mention he had that Intestinal stuff... Fuck all that. (Sure they are probably not related, but still... it happened)


He had a strong start in MMA, but the last few years haven't gone so well for him, which may explain his decision to return to make believe wrestling.
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« Reply #72 on: April 07, 2014, 09:51:49 AM »

Didn't he also try out for the NFL?

These avenues are no longer options. Vince's money is looking pretty good right now.


Yes, and that is why I agree with your post above. WWE is very likely his best option at this point.
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« Reply #73 on: April 07, 2014, 10:24:47 AM »

Taker simply botched the kickout.
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« Reply #74 on: April 07, 2014, 10:33:26 AM »


Wow, maybe the revenue brought in by the network hasn't offset the drop in PPV buy rates we know will accompany it.

Almost certainly the case. Plus, companies tend to lowball their projections. So, they can then surpass them.

Vince projected a million subscribers by the end of the year, but he really might have wanted that million by now. So far, they're at 667k. With Mania done, is there really a lot of meat on the bone, in the form of new subscribers? And how many people will drop it after the first year?

Stay tuned.
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