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Re: JAY CUTLER PULLUPS ZERO(0)
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2014, 06:16:13 AM »
I doubt the untrained average male can do a single pull up, let alone three. :D
I could do pull-ups as a kid... 7 yrs old ... Just from being an active kid playing foot ball running about climbing trees and walls... So...
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« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2014, 06:49:43 AM »
I could do pull-ups as a kid... 7 yrs old ... Just from being an active kid playing foot ball running about climbing trees and walls... So...

The average kid is far more physically active than the average adult.
The average adult spends his time sitting at a desk from 9-5, drinking beer and driving everywhere.

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« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2014, 07:09:14 AM »
The point is, a 4xMr. Olympia should be able to do a few pull ups.

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« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2014, 07:21:45 AM »
The point is, a 4xMr. Olympia should be able to do a few pull ups.
True but to be fair they are heavy guys. The massive Body weight Overall is more than Arms alone can lift. You know what i mean. Biceps are small and you do Need them to chin. Lats alone will not pull you up does not matter how much you concentrate and Zero in on them.

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« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2014, 07:23:21 AM »
True but to be fair they are heavy guys. The massive Body weight Overall is more than Arms alone can lift. You know what i mean. Biceps are small and you do Need them to chin. Lats alone will not pull you up does not matter how much you concentrate and Zero in on them.
God, I hope you are trolling...

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« Reply #80 on: June 11, 2014, 07:26:27 AM »
you Need arm strength to be good at chins.

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« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2014, 07:27:58 AM »
True but to be fair they are heavy guys. The massive Body weight Overall is more than Arms alone can lift. You know what i mean. Biceps are small and you do Need them to chin. Lats alone will not pull you up does not matter how much you concentrate and Zero in on them.

I understand they are heavy. But if I can weigh 210lbs, put 70lbs on a dip belt and do a quality 8 reps, Mr. Olympia has no excuse.  You don't have to do pull ups to have a world class back, but pull ups is one of those basic exercises that everyone (the general public) looks at and and evaluates muscular strength on.  If a Mr. Olympia can't do a few sets of pull ups it makes us all (bbs) look like a joke.

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« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2014, 07:34:02 AM »
I understand they are heavy. But if I can weigh 210lbs, put 70lbs on a dip belt and do a quality 8 reps, Mr. Olympia has no excuse.  You don't have to do pull ups to have a world class back, but pull ups is one of those basic exercises that everyone (the general public) looks at and and evaluates muscular strength on.  If a Mr. Olympia can't do a few sets of pull ups it makes us all (bbs) look like a joke.
True i think Barbell Rows and Deadlifts are more important. However most of them avoid chins because they are too heavy. they do lat pull downs and machine pull downs. Arms are the weak link.

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Re: JAY CUTLER PULLUPS ZERO(0)
« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2014, 07:36:25 AM »
you Need arm strength to be good at chins.

This guy must have enormous biceps.


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« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2014, 07:38:46 AM »
This guy must have enormous biceps.


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Re: JAY CUTLER PULLUPS ZERO(0)
« Reply #85 on: June 14, 2014, 11:27:04 AM »
If I weigh 180 and do sets with 1st lbs on a belt. Then they can do pull ups too.but then again we forget these guys are training for asthetics, not strength.  So fast twitch fiber training isn't for them.
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« Reply #86 on: June 14, 2014, 11:38:49 AM »
If I weigh 180 and do sets with 1st lbs on a belt. Then they can do pull ups too.but then again we forget these guys are training for asthetics, not strength.  So fast twitch fiber training isn't for them.

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« Reply #87 on: June 14, 2014, 11:42:20 AM »
It's ti see who I am if I comment. I don't need to hide lol. I know what you mean though. I've been a lurker here. So I know how it gets... it's fun. I am positive, share my opinions. But I don't hide behind a computer.
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« Reply #88 on: June 14, 2014, 11:46:31 AM »
It's ti see who I am if I comment. I don't need to hide lol. I know what you mean though. I've been a lurker here. So I know how it gets... it's fun. I am positive, share my opinions. But I don't hide behind a computer.

Just don't turn into another "The Trainer", a guy that spouts the most conventional, unsurprising training advice gleaned out of Flex mags from the 90's.

Assuming your instagram actually has pictures of you, then you are already winning.

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Re: JAY CUTLER PULLUPS ZERO(0)
« Reply #89 on: June 14, 2014, 11:47:59 AM »
If I weigh 180 and do sets with 1st lbs on a belt. Then they can do pull ups too.but then again we forget these guys are training for asthetics, not strength.  So fast twitch fiber training isn't for them.


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« Reply #90 on: June 14, 2014, 11:48:47 AM »
Nasser is still the king of pullups. Only IFBB-pro easily pulling 12-15 clean, weighted reps.



Look at that pointy oil-filled left bicep on Nasser  :-X

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« Reply #91 on: June 14, 2014, 11:51:10 AM »
How is he that physically weak when he's on every anabolic known to man?

Because oil does not = strength.

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« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2014, 11:53:37 AM »


WHAT??? He's not doing pull-ups. He's just hopping up and down. There's a reason we don't see his legs.

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« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2014, 03:50:48 PM »
A pull up is all the way down. It isn't complete when your out stretched chin reaches the bar but when your elbows are all the way down.

When you bodybuild you should make the exercises as hard as you can to tax the muscle. It seems bodybuilding attracts insecure guys with small self esteem who will do anything to impress other gym members with big weights instead of being concerned about working their muscle. That's why you see so much nonsense like shallow leg presses with the back board up high so the they can load the weight of a Buick on it. Super short range of motion on shoulder and chest presses seem to be the norm now and it wasn't like that in the 70's and early 80's.  I have seen guys load several 45's on their dipping belt and then proceed to barely bend their arms with little shallow dips. Also limiting your range of motion will result in a loss of flexibility and tightness. This will set you up for a tear. 

It's physics 101. Move a weight through a greater range of motion and then you are doing more work. More work leads to better adaptation of building muscle. 

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« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2014, 03:52:48 PM »
One of the two weighs over a hundred pounds more than the other one.

Jay is more than 106lbs.

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Re: JAY CUTLER PULLUPS ZERO(0)
« Reply #95 on: June 15, 2014, 12:20:40 AM »
It's ti see who I am if I comment. I don't need to hide lol. I know what you mean though. I've been a lurker here. So I know how it gets... it's fun. I am positive, share my opinions. But I don't hide behind a computer.

Ok "TamesNJerksPenis."

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Re: JAY CUTLER PULLUPS ZERO(0)
« Reply #96 on: June 15, 2014, 03:05:53 AM »
A pull up is all the way down. It isn't complete when your out stretched chin reaches the bar but when your elbows are all the way down.

When you bodybuild you should make the exercises as hard as you can to tax the muscle. It seems bodybuilding attracts insecure guys with small self esteem who will do anything to impress other gym members with big weights instead of being concerned about working their muscle. That's why you see so much nonsense like shallow leg presses with the back board up high so the they can load the weight of a Buick on it. Super short range of motion on shoulder and chest presses seem to be the norm now and it wasn't like that in the 70's and early 80's.  I have seen guys load several 45's on their dipping belt and then proceed to barely bend their arms with little shallow dips. Also limiting your range of motion will result in a loss of flexibility and tightness. This will set you up for a tear. 

It's physics 101. Move a weight through a greater range of motion and then you are doing more work. More work leads to better adaptation of building muscle. 

Oldtimers know their sheet.