Cant eat enough to grow....

[Maddy]

Better to be small than fat.

like your
boobs

[Mawse]

Classic permabulkers rationalization for hitting the all you can eat buffet weekly 'gotta eat big to get big'

AAS is magic pixie dust that apparently prevents your body storing excess calories as bodyfat

[ProudVirgin69]

It shouldn't have to be this way, but the thing is that most permas don't take the time, nor have the knowledge, nor have the willpower. The body can only burn 1-2 pounds of pure fat in a week without the use of stimulants, so that means roughly 40 weeks in your example of 60 pounds excess fat with week-to-week adjusting.

Nobody loses 60 pounds to diet down.  Probably closer to 30-40 pounds fat and the rest is water

[Simple Simon]

I really thought there would have been more responses from seasoned veterans here.

Seems this will remain a quandry for a while yet.

[Rascal full]

I really thought there would have been more responses from seasoned veterans here.

Seems this will remain a quandry for a while yet.

Shame Galeniko isn't here. I am sure he would have something pretty colourful to say on the matter!

[Simple Simon]

I dont think there is going to be a justification for excess cals over maintainance over and above maybe 300 cals a day.
Science or broscience isnt going to be able to justify it.
Eating 5 or 6000 cals a day is idiotic when your BMR is 3000 cals.

[DroppingPlates]

I dont think there is going to be a justification for excess cals over maintainance over and above maybe 300 cals a day.
Science or broscience isnt going to be able to justify it.
Eating 5 or 6000 cals a day is idiotic when your BMR is 3000 cals.

Bingo, heavy over eating is just impulsive and impatient behavior for wannabebigrats.

[Rascal full]

I dont think there is going to be a justification for excess cals over maintainance over and above maybe 300 cals a day.
Science or broscience isnt going to be able to justify it.
Eating 5 or 6000 cals a day is idiotic when your BMR is 3000 cals.

Yeah I can't see the reason it is advocated so heavily within the industry and adopted as the done thing. No point putting on unnecessary fat which contributes nothing to the physique and will only have to be removed later. Another one of those bro science myths like you need grams of gear to grow....

[Thick Nick]

I have seen this mentioned a couple of times now and posed the question in the steroid forum, I have deleted it in there and think it warrants discussion here

So heres the question

If Im gaining fat on 3500 cals a day then presumably Im eating enough to be gaining the maximum amount of muscle in that time frame providing my training and everything else is at optimum levels.
The fat gain is just the energy that I haven't expended being stored.
How will eating 6000 cals help me add more muscle?

I am eating more than enough protein to initiate muscle repair and growth all the extra cals are in the form of fats and carbs.

Can someone explain it please?

Steroids increase the amount of protein your body can process... That's its primary effect. So instead of storing fat you gain more by eating more. That's it. Very simple answer no secret.

[Simple Simon]

Steroids increase the amount of protein your body can process... That's its primary effect. So instead of storing fat you gain more by eating more. That's it. Very simple answer no secret.

Its an answer all right, just not one to the question that was posed.

Thanks anyway.

[_aj_]

Is it possible, through stupendous usage of anabolics, to get your body to the point where it could use 6000 kcals for lean tissue?

[Simple Simon]

Is it possible, through stupendous usage of anabolics, to get your body to the point where it could use 6000 kcals for lean tissue?

Did you just blurt that out randomly or do you have anything to back it up?

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

The heavier you are (fat or muscle) the more energy you need to maintain it.

If you're a twink and eat 5000 calories you will eventually become a fat twink.

[Thick Nick]

Its an answer all right, just not one to the question that was posed.

Thanks anyway.

How do you figure? Increased protein = increased calories right?

Now if you mean permabulkers eating McDonald's claiming they need more calories, then no it's not the answer.

[wolfrittner]

Better to be small than fat.

This

[Skorp1o]

Forget the diet to "grow big"....you need to up the dose lol

I take minimal gear, if I eat more I get fat, period. I have a thin balance of muscle and BF within the dose im on. If I want more muscle the only way for me is to up the dose....this way I get away with eating more and actually get bigger not fatter.

[wolfrittner]

That's what trenbolone is for. It will increase solid gains without using more cal. That's why farmers love it. The same with humans. More tren =more muscle without adding cal.

[wolfrittner]

Forget the diet to "grow big"....you need to up the dose lol

I take minimal gear, if I eat more I get fat, period. I have a thin balance of muscle and BF within the dose im on. If I want more muscle the only way for me is to up the dose....this way I get away with eating more and actually get bigger not fatter.

That's what it is.!!

[Pet shop boys]

Better to be small than fat.

Whats even worst; to the eye of the average chick  better to b small than muscular or fat.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[DroppingPlates]

Whats even worst; to the eye of the average chick  better to b small than muscular or fat.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Sadly true...

[_aj_]

Did you just blurt that out randomly or do you have anything to back it up?

Well, I was thinking of the primacy of the number "six", you see. 6000 kcals and 6 grams of gear. It seems rather "sweet".

[wolfrittner]

Well, I was thinking of the primacy of the number "six", you see. 6000 kcals and 6 grams of gear. It seems rather "sweet".

Hahahaha!

[Skorp1o]

Hahahaha!

If I had a dollar for every time Wolf posted the infamous billboard....I'd be filthy rich lol

[wolfrittner]

If I had a dollar for every time Wolf posted the infamous billboard....I'd be filthy rich lol

lol  It never disappoints  I haven't done it in a while but I couldn't resist at the aj post. I was set up

[Mawse]

That's what trenbolone is for. It will increase solid gains without using more cal. That's why farmers love it. The same with humans. More tren =more muscle without adding cal.

Yes, exactly, when using tren I can gain literally hundreds of lbs of lean mass in mere months by standing in a field all day eating nothing but grass.