The cost of doing a National Level bodybuilding contest

[Frank Clairmonte]

mental illness.

dedication.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Most people dont realize this but it costs alot to compete on a national level
For anabolics alone, around $2000-$2,000  gh? 10-20iu/day... cost varies. chinese gh will be around $2.50/iu, US Pharmacy gh is double or tripple that.
Then most guys use Test, Tren Prmibolan, Winstrol, Anavar,Anadrol, Cytodren Arremdex, HGH, IGF1,AND cYTOMEL
dONT FORGET ABOUT $250 IN FOOD PER WEEK TO EAT TOTALLY CLEAN.
Tanning for 8 weeks,$!50 per month
Airfare to the show $600, Hotel Room $200 per night for 3-4 nights
Protan, dream tan Hot stuff, or whatever $100
Entry feees $250
If you hire nutritionist like Hany or Chad $3500
Rent a car $300
Clothes that you will rion from protein $150-$200
Posing trunks custom made so they dong hug you private area $80
Binge food aftert the contest $200

You forgot $3300 to Bedlam(the lead singer of Lucid Delusion) to drop you a fresh 90 posing track...

[GetItOnNY]

What doesnt think bb isnt a sport is an idiot.If you are a competitive athlere.You got to do 30-60 minutes of cardio in the morning, then tan..When you get home practice posing for 30-40 mintes to help bring out detail.Plus it brings out the muscel fibers even more.Go home prepare your meals for the day.Work.
Then after work go to the gym train, then do abs, then do another 30 to 60 minutes of cardio.
You get ripped you need athletes 60 -120 minutes of cardio per day.Plus if you train intensly that makes it even harder.If that isnt and athlete I dont know whta is.
Pool, and darts are not athletes,niether is bowling.
I bet most people coukld pose for 30 minutes straight.Or do 30-45 minutes of cardio twice per day.while on low carbs

[Radical Plato]

Training in and of itself can be somewhat athletic but the end result  is not.  Posing on the dais is far from athletic. It is a pageant, not an athletic event.  It is subjective not objective.   Of course having seen the photo of Coleman backstage with an oxygen mask on, replenishing his taxed reserves from battling it out with others I suppose should make me pause.  Nah.

I am more physical culturist than what passes for what a  bodybuilder is today.  Next year marks my 40th of training.  I've competed a few times too but that was likely long before you were born.  I am old.  

For me, training is about  health, strength, fitness.  Not AAS, Slin and HGH.  I like bodybuilding.  I hate what some have turned it into.  Posing trunks should be not resemble a pouch with dental floss (like something from one of those 50s homosexual rags like "Young Adonis" or the like).  

That's why I am here.  

I hate the term bodybuilding, I prefer to see it more in terms of Strength training.   If you go to the gym, lift weights and slowy aim to get stronger, never take a steroid and eat well, you are not bodybuilding, you are strength training.  Bodybuilding is GAY. 

[Coach is Back!]

Jesus, maybe they should change the definition so you can be right

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/athletic

Thanks, that definition describes nothing bodybuilding related.

[Coach is Back!]

What doesnt think bb isnt a sport is an idiot.If you are a competitive athlere.You got to do 30-60 minutes of cardio in the morning, then tan..When you get home practice posing for 30-40 mintes to help bring out detail.Plus it brings out the muscel fibers even more.Go home prepare your meals for the day.Work.
Then after work go to the gym train, then do abs, then do another 30 to 60 minutes of cardio.
You get ripped you need athletes 60 -120 minutes of cardio per day.Plus if you train intensly that makes it even harder.If that isnt and athlete I dont know whta is.
Pool, and darts are not athletes,niether is bowling.
I bet most people coukld pose for 30 minutes straight.Or do 30-45 minutes of cardio twice per day.while on low carbs

There's nothing athletic in what you described.

[phreak]

Most people dont realize this but it costs alot to compete on a national level
For anabolics alone, around $2000-$2,000  gh? 10-20iu/day... cost varies. chinese gh will be around $2.50/iu, US Pharmacy gh is double or tripple that.
Then most guys use Test, Tren Prmibolan, Winstrol, Anavar,Anadrol, Cytodren Arremdex, HGH, IGF1,AND cYTOMEL
dONT FORGET ABOUT $250 IN FOOD PER WEEK TO EAT TOTALLY CLEAN.
Tanning for 8 weeks,$!50 per month
Airfare to the show $600, Hotel Room $200 per night for 3-4 nights
Protan, dream tan Hot stuff, or whatever $100
Entry feees $250
If you hire nutritionist like Hany or Chad $3500
Rent a car $300
Clothes that you will rion from protein $150-$200
Posing trunks custom made so they dong hug you private area $80
Binge food aftert the contest $200

Apparently you can easily afford this by jizzing on your stomach and having it photographed.

[TristenEsco]

Thanks, that definition describes nothing bodybuilding related.

Wrong yet again

Involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina

Maybe you simply don't know what bodybuilding actually is.

[SF1900]

Wrong yet again

Involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina

Maybe you simply don't know what bodybuilding actually is.

Does bodybuilding also include all the g4p?

[phreak]

You got to do 30-60 minutes of cardio in the morning, then tan..

This makes millions of dumpy housewives 'athletic'.

When you get home practice posing for 30-40 mintes to help bring out detail.Plus it brings out the muscel fibers even more.

So fashion models are athletic now?

home prepare your meals for the day.Work.

Again: tens of millions of housewives do this for decades on end.

Then after work go to the gym train, then do abs, then do another 30 to 60 minutes of cardio.

This MIGHT be considered athletic, using the laxest definition possible. Any gym rat is then athletic.

You get ripped you need athletes 60 -120 minutes of cardio per day.Plus if you train intensly that makes it even harder.If that isnt and athlete I dont know whta is.

Yes, I think we have established that. The average pizza delivery kid does more physical work than this. Mailmen do more than this. Carpenters, bricklayers, anyone in construction does much more than this. Every weekday, for four decades.

Pool, and darts are not athletes,niether is bowling.

Nobody here is saying that. But those people actually practice what they play for many hours daily.

I bet most people coukld pose for 30 minutes straight.Or do 30-45 minutes of cardio twice per day.while on low carbs

So towards the end of your post you are already shortening the 'extremely strenuous' cardio load, and adding a disclaimer. Clearly even you yourself are starting to realize the folly of your poorly thought out argument. Can BBing be strenuous? Sure, but only when you do it in combination with a real job. But that still does not make it athletic.

[phreak]

Wrong yet again

Involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina

Maybe you simply don't know what bodybuilding actually is.

- Many BBing gurus claim strength should never be a goal. It's all about the mind-muscle connection, right? 
- Agility? Seriously?
- Stamina? No really?  Are we talking about the same hulking fags who get winded walking up to the podium? Who get out of breath during a sit-down interview?

[TristenEsco]

- Many BBing gurus claim strength should never be a goal. It's all about the mind-muscle connection, right? 
- Agility? Seriously?
- Stamina? No really?  Are we talking about the same hulking fags who get winded walking up to the podium? Who get out of breath during a sit-down interview?

Maybe you train like a pussy? But all my workouts cover those bases

[phreak]

Maybe you train like a pussy? But all my workouts cover those bases

I trust your word that it is challenging to you. That still doesn't say much, does it?  Go train with actual athletes and then get back to us.

[ESFitness]

lets see if I can do this.

figure 12wks prep/90days

2g/wk test (ester doesn't matter)
1.5g tren/wk (ester doesn't matter)
1g mast/wk(ester doesn't matter)
1g primo ace/wk
1050 drol/wk
1050 anavar/wk
40mg halo/day last 3wks
$756


15iu/day Chinese gh

$2970

25mg aromasin/day
10mg nolva/day
50mg proviron/day (this should be in the AAS part.. I forgot it)
100mcg clen/day
$60

(add 750mg/day cytadren for $504)

trunks $30.
tailor the trunks $7
protan $15
extra bed sheets at your home $12 on amazon(who gives a fuck about sheets at the motel)
airfare $550
motel 2 nights $80
rental car 2 days with AAA $60
rental car gas $20 (where fuck are you going?)

food for 12wks prep
$2000 (cheap, considering I spend $500 a month on sushi alone)
gym membership? you'll probably have two, if you pay monthly 3months x2 (6x30) $180
NPC card $100
Entry fee $75
*remember, if you win the overall at nationals, $300 expenses will be reimbursed

45days of Xanax so you can sleep on the clen and tren 20mg Cialis every other day
50mg Viagra every other day
*with that much tren, you might need it.. even with the mast and proviron.
$15 (including an insurance PPO co-pay for the Xanax)

- I have a total of $6200 for 12wks

[ENZO]

I trust your word that it is challenging to you. That still doesn't say much, does it?  Go train with actual athletes and then get back to us.

Is baseball difficult enough for you to be considered athletic? Or will Phreak the random fat fuck from the Internet strip that sport from its athletic title as well

[Coach is Back!]

Wrong yet again

Involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina

Maybe you simply don't know what bodybuilding actually is.

You're right. I have no idea. My bad...

Oh, and what I do for a living....www.mpftrainin gsystems.com

[Coach is Back!]

This makes millions of dumpy housewives 'athletic'.
So fashion models are athletic now?
Again: tens of millions of housewives do this for decades on end.
This MIGHT be considered athletic, using the laxest definition possible. Any gym rat is then athletic.
Yes, I think we have established that. The average pizza delivery kid does more physical work than this. Mailmen do more than this. Carpenters, bricklayers, anyone in construction does much more than this. Every weekday, for four decades.
Nobody here is saying that. But those people actually practice what they play for many hours daily.
So towards the end of your post you are already shortening the 'extremely strenuous' cardio load, and adding a disclaimer. Clearly even you yourself are starting to realize the folly of your poorly thought out argument. Can BBing be strenuous? Sure, but only when you do it in combination with a real job. But that still does not make it athletic.

This x10

[TristenEsco]

You're right. I have no idea. My bad...

Oh, and what I do for a living....www.mpftrainin gsystems.com

You look 4 weeks out on stage lol. Your bad indeed.

[Coach is Back!]

You look 4 weeks out on stage lol. Your bad indeed.

I'm at least 20 years older than you in that pic and was at least 15 years older than anyone else on that stage in that class, haven't competed 19 years before that and still managed a 6th place out of almost 30 in the open. I was 46 in that pic and to this day I would bet every dollar you have in your little piggy bank you wouldn't last through one of my training sessions. Now, on to what I do for a living. I'm a strength and conditioning coach for real athletes, football, baseball, Mma and almost every other power sport from high school through elite professionals. It's my job to get athletes ready for their season. I've been a bodybuilder and an athlete so I can also speak from experience. If you think for ONE second bodybuilding is the least but athletic, you're fuckkng delusional. My wife is an ex-pro bodybuilder and she doesn't even think it's athletic in anyway, shape or form. Wake up son, you have a lot to learn. BTW, my training partner is a pro- bodybuilder.

[phreak]

Is baseball difficult enough for you to be considered athletic? Or will Phreak the random fat fuck from the Internet strip that sport from its athletic title as well

yes, actually. Seeing as a lot of players are fat I would hardly call it athletic.

[TristenEsco]

I'm at least 20 years older than you in that pic and was at least 15 years older than anyone else on that stage in that class, haven't competed 19 years before that and still managed a 6th place out of almost 30 in the open. I was 46 in that pic and to this day I would bet every dollar you have in your little piggy bank you wouldn't last through one of my training sessions. Now, on to what I do for a living. I'm a strength and conditioning coach for real athletes, football, baseball, Mma and almost every other power sport from high school through elite professionals. It's my job to get athletes ready for their season. I've been a bodybuilder and an athlete so I can also speak from experience. If you think for ONE second bodybuilding is the least but athletic, you're fuckkng delusional. My wife is an ex-pro bodybuilder and she doesn't even think it's athletic in anyway, shape or form. Wake up son, you have a lot to learn. BTW, my training partner is a pro- bodybuilder.

Am I supposed to be impressed? Would you like me to name drop all the pros I know and train with? They bust their asses in the gym as do I. Sorry but you don't get 20 inch arms with a 6 pack from simply sitting on your ass and pinning drugs. Nor do you get sub 6% BF that way. It must all be 1 big delusion

[Coach is Back!]

Am I supposed to be impressed? Would you like me to name drop all the pros I know and train with? They bust their asses in the gym as do I. Sorry but you don't get 20 inch arms with a 6 pack from simply sitting on your ass and pinning drugs. Nor do you get sub 6% BF that way. It must all be 1 big delusion

I couldn't give a shit who you train with. I'm not impressed by most of today's bodybuilders because most don't know what training hard means. I've only seen a few who get it. Cutler, as an example doesn't even break a sweat, trains half-assed as opposed to someone like Branch, JOJ or even Meadows. Personally i don't know if you even know what training hard means. But even so, what they do is by no means athletic. Lifting weights is not an athletic movement any way you cut it. Do you think a bodybuilder would be able to compete on against a football, baseball or anything else in a competitive environment? Of course not . The conditionin, movement prep or skill isn't there.

[TristenEsco]

I couldn't give a shit who you train with. I'm not impressed by most of today's bodybuilders because most don't know what training hard means. I've only seen a few who get it. Cutler, as an example doesn't even break a sweat, trains half-assed as opposed to someone like Branch, JOJ or even Meadows. Personally i don't know if you even know what training hard means. But even so, what they do is by no means athletic. Lifting weights is not an athletic movement any way you cut it. Do you think a bodybuilder would be able to compete on against a football, baseball or anything else in a competitive environment? Of course not . The conditionin, movement prep or skill isn't there.

Football players and bodybuilders train for 2 complete different platforms. Ones a field, the others a stage. Just because 1 is more grueling doesn't mean the other no longer requires athletic ability. Hope this helps.

[TEMPER]

lets see if I can do this.

figure 12wks prep/90days

2g/wk test (ester doesn't matter)
1.5g tren/wk (ester doesn't matter)
1g mast/wk(ester doesn't matter)
1g primo ace/wk
1050 drol/wk
1050 anavar/wk
40mg halo/day last 3wks
$756


15iu/day Chinese gh

$2970

25mg aromasin/day
10mg nolva/day
50mg proviron/day (this should be in the AAS part.. I forgot it)
100mcg clen/day
$60

(add 750mg/day cytadren for $504)

trunks $30.
tailor the trunks $7
protan $15
extra bed sheets at your home $12 on amazon(who gives a fuck about sheets at the motel)
airfare $550
motel 2 nights $80
rental car 2 days with AAA $60
rental car gas $20 (where fuck are you going?)

food for 12wks prep
$2000 (cheap, considering I spend $500 a month on sushi alone)
gym membership? you'll probably have two, if you pay monthly 3months x2 (6x30) $180
NPC card $100
Entry fee $75
*remember, if you win the overall at nationals, $300 expenses will be reimbursed

45days of Xanax so you can sleep on the clen and tren 20mg Cialis every other day
50mg Viagra every other day
*with that much tren, you might need it.. even with the mast and proviron.
$15 (including an insurance PPO co-pay for the Xanax)

- I have a total of $6200 for 12wks

This is rough, but way more accurate than the OP's bullshit costs rofl...OP ever hear of fucking Budgeting, and not spending money frivolously like a fucking retard?

Whey, Chicken, Rice, Fish, Potatoes, Eggs, and Broccoli does not cost $150 a week. They aren't dieting on fucking 5,000 cals a day of Filet Mignon and fresh organic veg for gods sake.

Guys with TOP TIER GENETICS destined to be top 10 on the Olympia stage did not need $3,000 worth of GH to prep for a national show...I fucking guarantee Kai Greene could not afford shit like GH when he turned pro...I don't care how many strip shows he did he wasn't on GH, and neither was Ronnie to turn pro.

Hell rumor has it Ronnie didn't even run GH until fucking 97'...And the Sandows were soon to follow..

[Bevo]

Football players and bodybuilders train for 2 complete different platforms. Ones a field, the others a stage. Just because 1 is more grueling doesn't mean the other no longer requires athletic ability. Hope this helps.

Thing is in a real sport like football not many people can really play like running the 40 in high to mid 4's , eye hand cordination, speed, power, agility, etc..

But in lifting weights ANYONE can do it, just the matter of poundages used but that's irrelevant