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Who rules America?
« on: August 13, 2014, 11:45:13 AM »
Not exactly news, but disturbing nonetheless.

Who rules America?
By Allan J. Lichtman, contributor

"The public be damned!"
— William H. Vanderbilt, railroad magnate, 1882

A shattering new study by two political science professors has found that ordinary Americans have virtually no impact whatsoever on the making of national policy in our country. The analysts found that rich individuals and business-controlled interest groups largely shape policy outcomes in the United States.

This study should be a loud wake-up call to the vast majority of Americans who are bypassed by their government. To reclaim the promise of American democracy, ordinary citizens must act positively to change the relationship between the people and our government

The new study, with the jaw-clenching title of "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens," is forthcoming in the fall 2014 edition of Perspectives on Politics. Its authors, Martin Gilens of Princeton University and Benjamin Page of Northwestern University, examined survey data on 1,779 national policy issues for which they could gauge the preferences of average citizens, economic elites, mass-based interest groups and business-dominated interest groups. They used statistical methods to determine the influence of each of these four groups on policy outcomes, including both policies that are adopted and rejected.

The analysts found that when controlling for the power of economic elites and organized interest groups, the influence of ordinary Americans registers at a "non-significant, near-zero level." The analysts further discovered that rich individuals and business-dominated interest groups dominate the policymaking process. The mass-based interest groups had minimal influence compared to the business-based interest groups.

The study also debunks the notion that the policy preferences of business and the rich reflect the views of common citizens. They found to the contrary that such preferences often sharply diverge and when they do, the economic elites and business interests almost always win and the ordinary Americans lose.

The authors also say that given limitations to tapping into the full power elite in America and their policy preferences, "the real world impact of elites upon public policy may be still greater" than their findings indicate.

Ultimately, Gilens and Page conclude from their work, "economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence."

Rich individuals and business interests have the capacity to hire the lobbyists that shadow legislators in Washington and to fill the campaign coffers of political candidates. Ordinary citizens are themselves partly to blame, however, because they do not choose to vote.

America's turnout rate places us near the bottom of industrialized democracies. More than 90 million eligible Americans did not vote in the presidential election of 2012 and more than 120 million did not vote in the midterm elections of 2010.

Electoral turnout in the United States is highly correlated with economic standing: The more affluent Americans vote in much higher proportion than the less affluent. A study by Ellen Shearer of the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern found that 59 percent of 2012 voters earned $50,000 or more per year, compared to 39 percent of non-voters. Only 12 percent of non-voters earned more than $75,000, compared to 31 percent of voters.

Ordinary citizens in recent decades have largely abandoned their participation in grassroots movements. Politicians respond to the mass mobilization of everyday Americans as proven by the civil rights and women's movements of the 1960s and 1970s. But no comparable movements exist today. Without a substantial presence on the ground, people-oriented interest groups cannot compete against their wealthy adversaries.

Average Americans also have failed to deploy the political techniques used by elites. Political Action Committees (PACs) and super-PACs, for example, raise large sums of money to sway the outcome of any election in the United States. Although average Americans cannot match the economic power of the rich, large numbers of modest contributions can still finance PACs and super-PACs that advance our common interests.

If only they vote and organize, ordinary Americans can reclaim American democracy and challenge the politicians who still echo the view of old Vanderbilt that the public should be damned.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/214857-who-rules-america#ixzz3AIbwc4u9

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Re: Who rules America?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 01:10:33 PM »
Not exactly news, but disturbing nonetheless.

Who rules America?
By Allan J. Lichtman, contributor

"The public be damned!"
— William H. Vanderbilt, railroad magnate, 1882

A shattering new study by two political science professors has found that ordinary Americans have virtually no impact whatsoever on the making of national policy in our country. The analysts found that rich individuals and business-controlled interest groups largely shape policy outcomes in the United States.


Do you agree?

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Re: Who rules America?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 01:15:50 PM »
Do you agree?

By and large, yes.  Money controls the system.  I do believe that voters can make a difference and that every vote counts, but when it comes to making policy, cash is king at the end of the day. 

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Re: Who rules America?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 01:39:13 PM »
In most cases that is correct, which is why we see congress pushing things like amnesty and obamacare even when its clear the majority of the public does not want it.

There are inspiring examples of the public will actually coming thru tho which provide some hope, such as when the big Gun Control push last year failed to even pass the dem-controlled house due to the overwhelming outrage of millions of americans...and when those idiots in colorado got successfully recalled despite Bloomberg putting overwhelming money advantages against them.

The people apparently still can exert influence on policy in some cases. But their ability to influence is no doubt shrinking fast.

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Re: Who rules America?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 01:44:21 PM »
In most cases that is correct, which is why we see congress pushing things like amnesty and obamacare even when its clear the majority of the public does not want it.

There are inspiring examples of the public will actually coming thru tho which provide some hope, such as when the big Gun Control push last year failed to even pass the dem-controlled house due to the overwhelming outrage of millions of americans...and when those idiots in colorado got successfully recalled despite Bloomberg putting overwhelming money advantages against them.

The people apparently still can exert influence on policy in some cases. But their ability to influence is no doubt shrinking fast.

I agree, No argument here.   ;)

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Re: Who rules America?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 09:21:34 PM »
In most cases that is correct, which is why we see congress pushing things like amnesty and obamacare even when its clear the majority of the public does not want it.

Even the most angry, ardent opponents of amnesty were converted to supporting it in a matter of 2 days, once Rush/Hannity and friends gave a nice coordinated message, follow cantor's booting from office.  

Even those who hated obama the most, saying he should be impeached for F&F, benghazi and more... even 33386, who hates obama more than anyone I know.... even he changed positions on impeachment in a matter of ONE DAY because Rush gave him a scenario where they trade 30 more months of obama power for, um, maybe they'll win more seats or something.  Maybe.  

If people that really HATE obama will join him on amnesty, and decide he's not impeach worthy - against their own long-held beliefs - in a matter of a day or two.... Well, then I bet the moderate swing voters that decide elections can be swayed even faster.  


seriously, it cannot be argued.  dudes that HATED obama and amnesty just embraced both, because of an op-ed by a drug-addled tv entertainer.   Disgusting.  

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Re: Who rules America?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2014, 10:05:15 AM »
By and large, yes.  Money controls the system.  I do believe that voters can make a difference and that every vote counts, but when it comes to making policy, cash is king at the end of the day. 
i must agree with you. and it doesn't hurt as much as I thought it would
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Re: Who rules America?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2014, 10:11:47 AM »
i must agree with you. and it doesn't hurt as much as I thought it would

Strange things happen when you take off the partisan blinders, even if only for a moment.