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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #975 on: August 22, 2014, 07:36:41 PM »
Just seems odd, testing the cop. I've never heard of such a thing.

it makes sense tho, doesn't it?   I got hurt working at walmart in college, they made me pee immediately.  in case I was high at work lol, so they could boot me if I got hurt while drunk.

But if I'm living on cocaine to work 60 hours a week in a high stress job like police work, and I can kill people at work lol... they don't test me? 

To me, that seems weird.  should be automatic, every time. 

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #976 on: August 22, 2014, 07:37:28 PM »
I've answered this repeatedly but you don't bother to answer.

What's the point, really? Dude ain't listening to reason. I don't enjoy participating in such fruitless debates, unless to snipe now and again. Plus, you were doing fine by yourself.

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #977 on: August 22, 2014, 07:42:53 PM »
Disagree.   Policeman who just fired the weapon sits down.  He is asked 100 questions by several people.  The answers are recorded and written down.  They are put into a report.

The police spokesman is asked questions.  Either he knows the answers from the report, or he tells reporter that info will be released.

THis whole "Oh, the spokesman didn't know, so he just kinda guessed on an answer" is HIGHLY irresponsible.  We're talking about the public trust here.  Some detail as SIMPLE and IMPORTANT as the position of the knife - and how many feet from the police officer - How in the fck can he get those details wrong?  

Particularly when the police HAD THIS CELL VIDEO!  They had it!  Media got it FROM THE COPS!   The policeman said overhand knife, 3-4 feet from officers.  And it was 10+ feet, knife to side.  He clearly exaggerated the shit out of those points - TO MAKE THE MAN LOOK MORE THREATNING and to make his danger look immanent.  

Yes, legal shoot, but it was less than 30 seconds from arrival to shooting/handcuffing dead guy.  There aren't that many details to fck up, and they managed to mess up distance AND the knife.


Sorry, but I can't blame the telephone game for this.  There are MAYBE 5 details about that shooting, and the cop got 2 of them wrong - 2 of them which benefitted the police for public opinion.  how convenient.  Dude, stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.  They's stretching the truth in a big way here, and people need to stop just dismissing it as incompetence.  The police are smart.  They know how to manipulate info to win public opinion.  

Simple details.  If spokesman doesn't know # of feet or knife position - in a prepared, written statement - something is seriously wrong ;)

You have some valid points. I will take them into consideration.
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #978 on: August 22, 2014, 07:43:53 PM »
What's the point, really? Dude ain't listening to reason. I don't enjoy participating in such fruitless debates, unless to snipe now and again. Plus, you were doing fine by yourself.

I'm trying to figure out if he is for real or just stirring the pot. 
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #979 on: August 22, 2014, 07:46:33 PM »
I'm trying to figure out if he is for real or just stirring the pot. 

No idea, but the autopsy comment had to be a troll job. Had to.

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #980 on: August 22, 2014, 07:56:12 PM »
what makes you think I'm joking?

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #981 on: August 22, 2014, 07:56:57 PM »
what makes you think I'm joking?



Nothing supports it is all.

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #982 on: August 22, 2014, 07:57:51 PM »
If you have something to contribute please bring it forward
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #983 on: August 22, 2014, 07:59:33 PM »
40 pages? Has a single person from either opinion been swayed to join the other sides opinion yet?
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #984 on: August 22, 2014, 08:00:33 PM »
it makes sense tho, doesn't it?   I got hurt working at walmart in college, they made me pee immediately.  in case I was high at work lol, so they could boot me if I got hurt while drunk.

But if I'm living on cocaine to work 60 hours a week in a high stress job like police work, and I can kill people at work lol... they don't test me? 

To me, that seems weird.  should be automatic, every time. 

No.

Does the President Of The United States take pee tests?

Does a Supreme Court judge?

Does Tony Blair take them?

No.

Does my friend the High School janitor take them?

Yup.

Lack of thought in what you are saying, who gives a fuck about your shitty Shizzo job, you put up with that nonsense because you were desperate.


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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #985 on: August 22, 2014, 08:00:41 PM »
40 pages? Has a single person from either opinion been swayed to join the other sides opinion yet?

Shit, we're still fighting over Trayvon/Zimmerpig ;D

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #986 on: August 22, 2014, 08:04:36 PM »
40 pages? Has a single person from either opinion been swayed to join the other sides opinion yet?

Tu_homes is a flip flopper :)
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #987 on: August 22, 2014, 08:08:53 PM »
murder is murder it is what it is.

I used to think it was a big deal now it's like

meh...yep that guys a murderer
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #988 on: August 22, 2014, 08:13:41 PM »
No.
Does the President Of The United States take pee tests?
Does a Supreme Court judge?
Does Tony Blair take them?
No.
Does my friend the High School janitor take them?
Yup.

you are correct.  I had to pee to bag groceries at winn-dixie.  I didn't have to take one to be a teacher. 

isn't that weird?  We don't trust people to use drugs and bag the bleach with the corn flakes, but to be a cop or POTUS or a teacher, nah, you're cool.

My only guess is that the people making this choice realize they'll lose support with a vocal minority of these groups that like to smoke pot?  I dunno why.

Seems absurd that all of us don't demand weekly pee tests from our congressmen.  Might have stopped my own Rep Radel from buying/using cocaine?

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #989 on: August 22, 2014, 08:14:30 PM »
if there's any evidence to show darren was "acting in self defence" bring it forth.
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #990 on: August 22, 2014, 08:16:48 PM »
You have some valid points. I will take them into consideration.

I get so emotional about shit like this lol :)

Since that rude ass cop threatened me with seat belt ticket... disgusting... she was fine with planting a bullshit charge on me, just to shut me up.  I really hate her lol, I'm just coming to terms with it.  

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #991 on: August 22, 2014, 08:17:35 PM »
murder is murder it is what it is.

I used to think it was a big deal now it's like

meh...yep that guys a murderer

Murder is very different from killing. Murder is very specific and indicates an unlawful act.  Kill is a much broader act.
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #992 on: August 22, 2014, 08:20:35 PM »
I get so emotional about shit like this lol :)

Since that rude ass cop threatened me with seat belt ticket... disgusting... she was fine with planting a bullshit charge on me, just to shut me up.  I really hate her lol, I'm just coming to terms with it.  
You can't be impartial,  bow out.
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #993 on: August 22, 2014, 08:25:05 PM »
you are correct.  I had to pee to bag groceries at winn-dixie.  I didn't have to take one to be a teacher. 

isn't that weird?  We don't trust people to use drugs and bag the bleach with the corn flakes, but to be a cop or POTUS or a teacher, nah, you're cool.

My only guess is that the people making this choice realize they'll lose support with a vocal minority of these groups that like to smoke pot?  I dunno why.

Seems absurd that all of us don't demand weekly pee tests from our congressmen.  Might have stopped my own Rep Radel from buying/using cocaine?

Only the peons will ever be tested, man.

The people making the important decisions will never subject themselves to this bullshit.

I'm not a conspiracy kook, this is just reality.


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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #994 on: August 22, 2014, 08:31:06 PM »
Murder is very different from killing. Murder is very specific and indicates an unlawful act.  Kill is a much broader act.

good evidence is required to determine the unlawful component


such as 5 witnesses and expert testimony ie: forensic analysis

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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #995 on: August 22, 2014, 08:49:18 PM »
this is the shot from the rear


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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #996 on: August 22, 2014, 08:54:51 PM »
this is the shot from the rear




Could have come from the rear. You're making a difinitive statement that it came from the back. It's clear it's part of a grouping of shots that came from the front
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #997 on: August 22, 2014, 08:59:57 PM »
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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #998 on: August 22, 2014, 09:00:02 PM »
Lol.

Those diagrams make him look human.


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Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth
« Reply #999 on: August 22, 2014, 09:18:59 PM »
Could have come from the rear. You're making a difinitive statement that it came from the back. It's clear it's part of a grouping of shots that came from the front

There is a scenario put forth by 5 eyewitnesses that this fits perfectly.

how do you get shot on the underside or inside of the arm from the front?



 



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