Random AnabolicHalo ramblings

[Cutlet767]

Even this guy will go down the same path as everyone else once he's done injecting. He's a decent looking guy though, so the girlfriend or wife may hang around even when he can't lay the pipe, and is emotionally fucked up from the crash.

But as long as he stays on good terms with the guys behind Ramy and co, he will be fine for many years to come. Middle eastern don't fuck around when it comes to producing and delivering the tools the bodybuilder needs to function as a component in the monster that is the fitness industry.

[Natural Man]

But you know prior to using that the new and improved drug gains truly aren't your own so what's so catastrophic about going back to just you?  

Is it just too humbling an experience that you forget where you end and the drugs begin?

I'm not being critical here I'm actually trying to understand.  I've never used so I don't fully get it.

you re big because you re obese, you re probably as scared as a steroid user to get leaner because you wouldnt have that 'gentle giant' aura floating around you that make people like you. Being fat has been who you are for so long it's part of your personality. Lots of people are addicted to being fat because they feel...strong. It's precisely why parents have been overfeeding their kids for a loooong time, to make them fater, bigger ''stronger'' so they could dominate leaner kids/men. Problem is it's not adapted to the present and future, as science replace muscles with machines, so the world of tomorow is for lean smart individuals who use bigger people to do all the menial / physical jobs while they re still required.

Cutlet offering some badly needed insights in this thread, should have his own sticky thread.

[Cutlet767]

you re big because you re obese, you re probably as scared as a steroid user to get leaner because you wouldnt have that 'gentle giant' aura floating around you that make people like you. Lots of people are addicted to being fat because they feel...strong.

Cutlet offering some badly needed insights in this thread, should have his own sticky thread.

The information I would lay out is the same infortmation that should be stickied to the top of every steroid board, and then forced upon every new user prior to giving them (selective) access to other areas of the forum.

Unfortunately, when there's money to be made, no one gives a fuck about what you choose to ingest in your quest for a more comfortable social standing.

[Man of Steel]

If you're new and want to take steroids, you literally have to look at your entire life and decide if you want them to become a permanent part of it and then plan finances and lifestyle well ahead so you can get the drugs you need. Then consider bumps in the road like emergencies, sickness, and unplanned absences from your gear, including financial strife. Unless like I said, you're doing it to help with a disease, or you keep a mental tab of what you are before the drugs and remember it, with some margin for a lesser version of yourself (at least in the physical sense, because guys like Ronnie have a legacy) when you go off. This, makes you FAR ahead of the pack, and the experience will be considerably more fun since you know what to expect in any given scenario.

It's a very, very serious decision. Lots to think about. Including a good source, since there's so much garbage and poison in vials out there. Even poison in bottles as is the case of prohormones (the easy route many take to get to the dark side).

Instant gratification comes at a severe price in this game. Practically everyone who goes down this route does NOT think of even a fraction of everything I've laid out. They can't, since they're natty.

This is a great post and a perspective I've rarely seen addressed.

[Man of Steel]

you re big because you re obese, you re probably as scared as a steroid user to get leaner because you wouldnt have that 'gentle giant' aura floating around you that make people like you. Being fat has been who you are for so long it's part of your personality. Lots of people are addicted to being fat because they feel...strong. It's precisely why parents have been overfeeding their kids for a loooong time, to make them fater, bigger ''stronger'' so they could dominate leaner kids/men. Problem is it's not adapted to the present and future, as science replace muscles with machines, so the world of tomorow is for lean smart individuals who use bigger people to do all the menial / physical jobs while they re still required.

Cutlet offering some badly needed insights in this thread, should have his own sticky thread.

As a simple reminder, you need not ever address me on GB again.  I have to do this for some from time to time.

Know that going forward, once again, your posts will be completely ignored by me.

[Natural Man]

Steroid use to get bigger instead of training naturally is just like driving a big / sport car while you could drive an economic one to go from point a to b; it's extreme, unhealthy. You dont need it, but for some reasons, you cant prevent yourself from overdoing it. It's not a problem when you re getting excellent at something at school or at work, it's regarded as positive, beneficial, it's a problem when it's unproductive for yourself or society.

Training naturally is better than not training at all, but going so far as using steroids to get even bigger is too extreme .

Also the gains you make naturally will last all your life, with little maintenance training, while going the steroid shortcut you ll lose pretty much everything once all the drugs are flushed out of your body, including the will to lift weights itself.

You can tell people shortcomings, insecurities, by focusing on what aspects of their lives they overdeveloped exaggeratedly.

[Natural Man]

As a simple reminder, you need not ever address me on GB again.  I have to do this for some from time to time.

Know that going forward, once again, your posts will be completely ignored by me.

typical childish answer from someone who got exposed for being an hypocritical holier than thou pos and couldnt do shit about it. You re just afraid to face the truth: most of your confidence comes from you being born big more than your ''bible''.

[Cutlet767]

In fact I'll even advise that a bodybuilder who wants to do this long term (for whatever reason, competition or just for a party physique), on his first cycle goes on (preferably a fairly extended cycle, or even up to a year's blast and cruise), builds the most impressive physique he can in a year and then comes off for up to a year to familiarize himself with the feeling of being off for an extended period, before proceeding on the journey. Preferably even doing it cold turkey coming off. But for most, I'm crazy to even suggest such a thing. lol.

Steroid use to get bigger instead of training naturally is just like driving a big / sport car while you could drive an economic one to go from point a to b; it's extreme, unhealthy.

Training naturally is better than not training at all, but going so far as using steroids to get even bigger is too extreme .

Also the gains you make naturally will last all your life, with little maintenance training, while going the steroid shortcut you ll lose pretty much everything once all the drugs are flushed out of your body, including the will to lift weights itself.

You can tell people shortcomings, insecurities, by focusing on what aspects of their lives they overdeveloped exaggeratedly.

This is mostly true... Especially when you consider, it's done primarily for the attention more than anything else since they lack personality or physical traits (facially) that can captivate the attention of the people around them, the physique becomes the crutch. The method of compensation. Thus in most cases and for most individuals, it applies massively. Low self esteem is the obvious reason. Many of these guys actually do have attention from women beforehand to some degree, but usually a failed relationship leaves them with a much lower sense of self worth afterwards, especially if they held that woman to high regard, and she left him without a trace of emotion. That's why a lot of bodybuilders start off down this road following a breakup. Again, I know of a few people this applies to.

[Psychopath]

Have you considered dildo party?

[Natural Man]

In fact I'll even advise that a bodybuilder who wants to do this long term (for whatever reason, competition or just for a party physique), on his first cycle goes on (preferably a fairly extended cycle, or even up to a year's blast and cruise), builds the most impressive physique he can in a year and then comes off for up to a year to familiarize himself with the feeling of being off for an extended period, before proceeding on the journey. Preferably even doing it cold turkey coming off. But for most, I'm crazy to even suggest such a thing. lol.

it's a fact most people start lifting weights and eventually go extreme by using steroids because of the following reasons;

-small dick
-small / short physique
-having been bullied in childhood /adolescence by bigger/fatter/stronger males (family or not)
-several or all of the above

Most of the time we lift weights -and do steroids- to look bigger than what we actually are, which is an animal behavior to adapt and survive, to dominate instead of being dominated. It often result in increased confidence, which leads to being ablr to date women etc and women also naturally respond to this being conditionned, programmed to find males who will protect them physically.
The real winner will always be the man who s born genetically tall, lean, broad shouldered with a handsome face and brains. A good inheritance and family also helps.
Basically everyone else is trying to look like this guy, the alpha male, just like all females are trying to look like the good looking princess who come from a rich family.

[Cutlet767]

it's a fact most people go extreme by using steroids because of the following reasons;

-small dick
-small / short physique
-having been bullied in childhood /adolescence
-several or all of the above

Most of the time we lift weights -and do steroids- to look bigger than what we actually are, which is an animal behavior to adapt and survive, to dominate instead of being dominated. It often result in increased confidence, which leads to being to date women etc and women also naturally respond to this being conditionned, programmed to find males who will protect them physically.
The real winner will always be the man who s born genetically tall, lean, broad shouldered with a handsome face and brains. A good inheritance and family also helps.
Basically everyone else is trying to look like this guy, the alpha male, just like all females are trying to look like the good looking princess who come from a rich family.

Precisely. This man will then use weights ALONE and good nutrition to AUGMENT (improve) what he already had naturally. And then you'll find that the suggestion of steroid use to such an individual, or even dieting down to obscenely low levels of body fat for the sake of "competition" will be met with scorn more than anything. He's the type of man who will usually make top level IFBB pros look shameful just standing looking lean and healthy in a beater doing the "bro" pose. And even fellow bodybuilders will see who is truly genetically inferior, and be ashamed for their peer in that picture.

Now, those naturals who FEAR to use steroids due to the social stigma or the fear of the needle or even the pill, and the side effects do not count because they're just dedicated pussies.

[the trainer]

since i just did 20 weeks of them

if i never stop and just cruiz, then maybe natural system is fucked?


i'm not sure


 

Stop thinking that shit do you want to become a skinny twink who gets only fat bitches  or do you want to be a big muscle freak that get the hot girls horny, the choice is yours.

[Cutlet767]

Stop thinking that shit do you want to become a skinny twink who gets only fat bitches  or do you want to be a big muscle freak that get the hot girls horny, the choice is yours.

PJ wasn't doing too badly before he decided to jump on gear. He's not exactly a genetic failure when it comes to his savvyness and personality, and he's not really compensating with that physique as much as a lot of pros and random desperate 20 something and 30 something year olds on steroid forums looking to "turn their life around" do. He runs a business, and has money. And, he has the mind and social skills to be about more than just his physique. And, he has all the considerations everyone who juices should make that I listed above down to a tee.

Not to talk of the fact that he understood the commitment before going on.

Gear is of course better than natural, but only if you understand the commitment fully and how it affects the people you choose to have around you and the nature of their feelings and perceptions towards you (do they care about anything other than your muscle? Will they look at you the same without it? If not, are you happy to become your physique, not just wear it?) and do not delude yourself that anything other than the drugs is in play. That's the core message I'm trying to get across.

[Natural Man]

PJ wasn't doing too badly before he decided to jump on gear. He's not exactly a genetic failure when it comes to his savvyness and personality, and he's not really compensating with that physique as much as a lot of pros and random desperate 20 something and 30 something year olds on steroid forums looking to "turn their life around" do. He runs a business, and has money. And, he has the mind and social skills to be about more than just his physique. And, he has all the considerations everyone who juices should make that I listed above down to a tee.

Not to talk of the fact that he understood the commitment before going on.

Gear is of course better than natural, but only if you understand the commitment fully and how it affects the people you choose to have around you and the nature of their feelings and perceptions towards you (do they care about anything other than your muscle? Will they look at you the same without it? If not, are you happy to become your physique, not just wear it?) and do not delude yourself that anything other than the drugs is in play. That's the core message I'm trying to get across.

Problem is everyone has to stop using at one point, and go back to their natural self. Isnt it wiser to accept who you are from the getgo, try to compensate overdeveloping other more useful , socially accepted skills (everything we develop being a skill to insure our survival).

I guess everything done in moderation , with balance is the best route = allows you to live longer, all extremes actually shortening your life span. Having a good education/job, being in decent shape, having a decent diet and so on. Some people are gifted, are very good looking facially and physically from birth -models- , the alpha males and females. Others are just trying to look like them at all costs, even if they dont have the genes. Others compensate by focusing on their career; and with the money try to modify their appearances...others simply dont care about their appearance as the money they earn allow them to obtain everything they want.

The sad animal condition; spending your existence fighting , adapting, in vain.

[the trainer]

Training and eating right literally have no bearing on anything. If anything the extra cortisol from continued training will only wear you out much faster and put more stress on your system (this is actually a fact)..

Try to understand what's happening. The science of the whole thing. When you go on, you throw your body off balance. Homeostasis goes out the window.. for the better. you get huge due to this imbalance. When you come off, your body seeks to find that balance again. That means, stripping off all that lean tissue, raising the body fat, and even lowering your natural hormone production permanently to possibly a lower level than it originally was (almost always the case) as a protective measure to prevent that huge imbalance in future. You can't find balance without getting rid of all that extra tissue, and possibly more. Therefore, everything you do is completely irrelevant, because this is nothing to do with weights and "proper nutrition" anymore, but rather about nature running its course.

That's why nutrition means so little when drugs are involved, because in the presence of any good measure of calories, there will almost always be enough protein and carbs to build up lean tissue due to the extreme level of nitrogen retention steroids promote. In other words, diet means nothing on gear. It's largely irrelevant, and the drugs you consume including the dosages takes precedence over everything else.

Very stupid post I wont even comment too much cause anybody who says diet means nothing on gear is a fucking idiot and not worth the time.

[Bodybuilder Lex Reeves]

Training and eating right literally have no bearing on anything. If anything the extra cortisol from continued training will only wear you out much faster and put more stress on your system (this is actually a fact)..

Try to understand what's happening. The science of the whole thing. When you go on, you throw your body off balance. Homeostasis goes out the window.. for the better. you get huge due to this imbalance. When you come off, your body seeks to find that balance again. That means, stripping off all that lean tissue, raising the body fat, and even lowering your natural hormone production permanently to possibly a lower level than it originally was (almost always the case) as a protective measure to prevent that huge imbalance in future. You can't find balance without getting rid of all that extra tissue, and possibly more. Therefore, everything you do is completely irrelevant, because this is nothing to do with weights and "proper nutrition" anymore, but rather about nature running its course.

That's why nutrition means so little when drugs are involved, because in the presence of any good measure of calories, there will almost always be enough protein and carbs to build up lean tissue due to the extreme level of nitrogen retention steroids promote. In other words, diet means nothing on gear. It's largely irrelevant, and the drugs you consume including the dosages takes precedence over everything else.

What can I say? Steroids R4 Losers!

[Natural Man]

Very stupid post I wont even comment too much cause anybody who says diet means nothing on gear is a fucking idiot and not worth the time.

your whole ''contribution'' to this board never came close to what cutlet brought in this single thread alone.

[Cutlet767]

Problem is everyone has to stop using at one point, and go back to their natural self. Isnt it wiser to accept who you are from the getgo, try to compensate overdeveloping other more useful , socially accepted skills (everything we develop being a skill to insure our survival).

I guess everything done in moderation , with balance is the best route = allows you to live longer, all extremes actually shortening your life span. Having a good education/job, being in decent shape, having a decent diet and so on. Some people are gifted, are very good looking facially and physically from birth -models- , the alpha males and females. Others are just trying to look like them at all costs, even if they dont have the genes. Others compensate by focusing on their career; and with the money try to modify their appearances...others simply dont care about their appearance as the money they earn allow them to obtain everything they want.

The sad animal condition; spending your existence fighting , adapting, in vain.

Problem is everyone has to stop using at one point, and go back to their natural self. Isnt it wiser to accept who you are from the getgo, try to compensate overdeveloping other more useful , socially accepted skills (everything we develop being a skill to insure our survival).

I guess everything done in moderation , with balance is the best route. Having a good education/job, being in decent shape, having a decent diet and so on. Some people are gifted, are very good looking facially and physically from birth -models- , the alpha males and females. Others are just trying to look like them at all costs, even if they dont have the genes. Others compensate by focusing on their career; and with the money try to modify their appearances...others simply dont care about their appearance as the money they earn allow them to obtain everything they want.

The sad animal condition; spending your existence fighting , adapting, in vain.

That's a good argument. For some, it's more than just an acceptance. Acceptance is easy, because for the most part, everyone is aware of their shortcomings. It's acceptance, and then learning to work around it that is the hard part. If you had been on a thousand dates with women and saw no luck. Or if you loved to lift, and saw no gains yet had sacrificed your social life or lack thereof for long enough that you invested all your time into the gym, then it's important enough to you, clearly, that making the committment to use drugs and stay on them AND build a career around fitness should not be an issue. And this is regardless of what the people around you think.

Look at your life right now, and the time you spend around bodybulding. Look at your current situation. Your job, your friends, your family. How much value does spending time with these people and around them hold in comparison to the time you spend improving your physique. Look at your life. How much better do you think it will be using the drugs and building an impressive physique and joining your fellow steroid users in competition, giving you something to strive towards every time you train and inject, as opposed to the 9-5 your work, and spending spare time in aimless banter with your "friends" distracting you from what you would REALLY rather be doing year round, and around the clock. This, is most bodybuilders for you. Need employment? Plenty are willing to pay thousands to take pictures of them in private (gay for pay). Getting clients for "competition prep" is easy when you're a shredded, massive bodybuilder or physique competitor. Not to talk of being a personal trainer. Enjoying an easy going lifestyle with people who have the exact same interests and though processes as you do who won't make you feel weird for wanting to train at 2 in the morning, or talking to them about how you prefer Anadrol over Tren. Whatever is playing in your head as you read that, is exactly what your time on earth, in the current society and situation you find yourself in, should be spent doing, and should revolve around. This is the truth. And nothing else will refute it. And this is the reality every single one of those bodybuilders lives in today.

Those you mentioned with those attributes would not be involved in bodybuilding to the level of IFBB competitors because it would be a contradiction. If they're blessed in those things physically, then they got screwed mentally (insecure) or got screwed mentally by an event, or individual at some point in their lives. That's why you even have some gorgeous women in fitness taking things to extremes.

Very stupid post I wont even comment too much cause anybody who says diet means nothing on gear is a fucking idiot and not worth the time.

Thyroid hormone (T3), Clenbuterol and Trenbolone on a cycle along with HGH will show you things you could never dream of. The reason you see guys in the gym who look like shit and are on gear, is because they're mis-educated on what to take. These guys are no different from a kid who does chest all day and no arms for years on end because he doesn't know better.

Watch the full interview titled "IFBB Pro Steroid Truth" on YouTube to discover a first hand account of just how powerful these drugs are in promoting lean muscle gain and fat loss regardless of nutritional intake.

And if you're trying to get bigger... then what's the problem here? Eating any solid, high caloric meals is not an issue for most Americans. Look at the obesity epidemic.

The argument is sound.

[the trainer]

your whole ''contribution'' to this board never came close to what cutlet brought in this single thread alone.

Although you are a bitter twink who cant see things objectively ask yourself this if diet means nothing while on gear why do bodybuilders diet for shows, I would assume that they would eat pizza, fries, burgers and ice cream everyday cause the drugs will get them ripped.

[Cutlet767]

Although you are a bitter twink who cant see things objectively ask yourself this if diet means nothing while on gear why do bodybuilders diet for shows, I would assume that they would eat pizza, fries, burgers and ice cream everyday cause the drugs will get them ripped.

"Diet" to those bodybuilders is simply eating less before a show. Anyone who wants to take this to the next level will be more than happy to diet. Either way, unless you are stuffing your face to death Clen and T3 WILL allow you to consume more calories than you otherwise would need to to get shredded. I have used Clen. I know what I'm talking about. And at the competitive level, any serious bodybuilder will drop his calories to get the placing he wants, no ifs, no buts.

Not to talk of if you had HGH and Tren running through you... you would struggle to put on fat.

At any rate the drugs play such a massive role, that diet is still lost even if it has some significance. The true focus is on the drug intake, and the body's psysiological response to them.

[Hulkotron]

[anabolichalo]

i'm actually hanging in here pretty well on my first day off gear

i have faith in jehova

[spiro]

Imagine how a guy like vitor belfort feels. The guy has been injecting for decades and now the UFC had promised to test the shit out of him he really did have to come off. He looks like he lost all his muscle and that is all people talk about. I hope he is mentally strong because that shit would wear on me really quick.

I admit I'm a guy who made the decision to be on something all the time. Going on and off was really hard. Being off you feel like absolute shit. What I did was lift a few times a week but I switched hobbies up. I got into guns and survival and prepping forums to keep my mind busy.

[Cutlet767]

Imagine how a guy like vitor belfort feels. The guy has been injecting for decades and now the UFC had promised to test the shit out of him he really did have to come off. He looks like he lost all his muscle and that is all people talk about. I hope he is mentally strong because that shit would wear on me really quick.

I admit I'm a guy who made the decision to be on something all the time. Going on and off was really hard. Being off you feel like absolute shit. What I did was lift a few times a week but I switched hobbies up. I got into guns and survival and prepping forums to keep my mind busy.

He will feel like shit. But, he is about something, which is fighting. He probably would just carry on without the drugs, even if he loses more. Actually, Overeem came off with a test reading on like 100 and seemed to do ok, but Overeem is much, much more genetically blessed mentally for the come down after gear than your average guy who is on tons of gear and insecure out of his mind.

[the trainer]

i'm actually hanging in here pretty well on my first day off gear

i have faith in jehova

You are fucking done, shrinking balls, dick cant get hard, arms shrink down to 15, weight lost, get skinny fat, depression, women dont look at you, jerking off your half dead to porn and cummig on yourself without getting an erection, you might as well just kill yourself.