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Squats in a full body routine. When do you do them?

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Thin Lizzy: Most people save them for last. I've been doing them second, right after benches. This way I'm still pretty fresh, and, I give my delts some time to recover before shoulder presses. Sure, I'm in some pretty heavy oxygen debt by the last set, but, I get my wind back after a few minutes.

WOOO: --- Quote from: Thin Lizzy on September 20, 2014, 04:05:13 PM ---Most people save them for last. I've been doing them second, right after benches. This way I'm still pretty fresh, and, I give my delts some time to recover before shoulder presses. Sure, I'm in some pretty heavy oxygen debt by the last set, but, I get my wind back after a few minutes. --- End quote --- first leg movement, end of the workout imo

jpm101: The usual protocol of a full body workout is doing the heavier compound exercises, for the larger body parts, first in the workout. The workout should also be short, to the point and done with serious intent. Something like:  3 to 4 sets of 8-10 reps of each movement. Some will add calf and abs exercises, but those would be placed at the very end of the workout. Squats BB rows bench overhead press BB curls There is also the classic 5X5 full body workout....5 sets of 5 reps. Squat BB row Bench Many different ways and different exercise for any full body workout. Keep in mind the general rule of thumb of doing the heavier movement first in line. Give the most attention, and effort, to the bigger growing exercise like the full squat. Or even Dl to stat a workout. Good luck

WOOO: --- Quote from: jpm101 on September 21, 2014, 09:34:00 AM ---The usual protocol of a full body workout is doing the heavier compound exercises, for the larger body parts, first in the workout. The workout should also be short, to the point and done with serious intent. Something like:  3 to 4 sets of 8-10 reps of each movement. Some will add calf and abs exercises, but those would be placed at the very end of the workout. Squats BB rows bench overhead press BB curls There is also the classic 5X5 full body workout....5 sets of 5 reps. Squat BB row Bench Many different ways and different exercise for any full body workout. Keep in mind the general rule of thumb of doing the heavier movement first in line. Give the most attention, and effort, to the bigger growing exercise like the full squat. Or even Dl to stat a workout. Good luck --- End quote --- if i squat first the rest of the workout is boned

oldtimer1: I have use a full body routines many times. They are very effective but they are brutal. It's not a beginners routine and split routines are easier. You should work the largest body parts first when you have the most amount of energy down to the smallest. It's just common sense and that's was always emphasized by Arthur Jones. So squats should be first unless a power exercise is used such as cleans and snatches. An exemption is used if two pressing exercises are back to back. The whole body routine that I used looked like this. No warm ups listed. Sets to failure done twice to three times a week. Power cleans 3 x 3 squats 2 x 8 then 1x1 lunges 1 x 8 standing leg curl 2 x 12 flat dumbbell press 2 x 8 pull ups 2 xmax Low v handle seated cable row 2 x 12 military press 2 x 8 dumbbell laterals 2 x 10 barbell curls 2 x 10 weighted dips 2 x 10 hanging leg raise 2 x max ab pulley crunches 2 x 25 standing calf raise 2 x 15 neck and grip work. I would do this workout 6 times. I would see what my goal was at the end of 6 workouts and back off the weight 5lbs to 10lbs a workout from my goal. So if my goal was 300lbs for 8 reps on workout six then the first weight used would be 250lbs. Monday 250lbs, Wednesday 260, and Friday 270.  It wouldn't matter if monday was too light. It will soon get hard enough and proper form and range of motion will make it hard. After the six workouts I would completely change the exercises for another 6 workout goal. Effective but brutal. See how you feel compared to doing a split. Fatigue is systemic and not localized to the muscle worked. It's a superior way to train.

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