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Cadillac Boss Responds To Criticism Over Move To New York
« on: September 29, 2014, 06:57:26 PM »
Cadillac-boss Johan de Nysschen: “Detroit fans – don’t mess with me.”
September 28, 2014 By Bertel Schmitt

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Johan de Nysschen wrote today to his 291 Facebook friends. Apparently, the criticism rattled the usually unflappable de Nysschen. He writes:

    “This past week we announced a new flagship car to be built in Detroit. No reaction. Announced a product offensive which will give Cadillac coverage of 95% of premium market segment . Slight twitch of the left eyebrow of the industry media. Announce new nomenclature system, to denote hierarchy and accommodate expanded future portfolio. Every armchair marketing expert has ten opinions to share. Fortunately, I do not determine strategy based on the unfiltered observations of people who do not have a 360 degree understanding of the problem. Announce that Cadillac is to be established as separate unit of General Motors, to be more autonomous and focus on the premium business. Emails from GM retires suggesting that is the dumbest idea since the Cimmaron. I quietly wonder if any of them had a hand in creating that masterful monument to product substance.”

The complaints about a new nomenclature can be ignored. They are a regurgitated blogger meme that misses the point, and the fact that Cadillac ceased being defined by Eldorados and de Villes some 10 years ago. There is no earth shattering difference between a “CT6” and a “XYZ,” except that the higher number helps explain where the car stands in the vehicular pecking order. 6 not sexy? There’s room for a perfect 10 in Caddy’s future. Cadillac needs to focus everything on lifting the value of Cadillac. Dumping resources into new descriptive names needs to wait. Then, there is that nagging detail that it becomes increasingly impossible to find a good name that isn’t already trademarked somewhere on the globe. The El Dorado of Eldorados is gone. Get over it.


The criticism of abandoning Detroit runs deeper. Behind the comments that it does not “make sense” and that is has been “tried before” (no Cadillac-to-Manhattan story without a Lincoln-to-Califiornia-and-back reference) are muted suggestions of high treason, of deserting a city under siege. Of course, nobody puts it that way. Michigan’s Car Czar Nigel Francis told an equally beleaguered Crains that “this has got far more to do with where a senior-level person wants to live and work.” No, it does not.

What transformed Audi from a mediocre carmaker and mistreated stepchild of Volkswagen into one of the world’s most admired brands, was to give the people at Audi their own and fiercely defended identity and sense of belonging. Johan was there, and Ammann hired him for what he learned at Audi. One of the secrets of Audi’s success was Ferdinand Piech’s insistence on wasting money. Soon after his arrival in Wolfsburg, Piech demanded strict “Markentrennung,” or brand separation. It wasn’t just brands that were separated. Giving “Erbsenzähler” (bean counters in Volkswagen parlance) heart palpitations, just about every function was duplicated, down to separate parts distribution operations that distributed mostly identical parts, and down to brand-separate field staff that visited mostly identical dealers who grudgingly had built separate show rooms. That Audi already was separate from Wolfsburg, and in Ingolstadt, helped. If that would not have been the case, they would have been separated and moved early on. At the time, separating not just the marketing theater in front of the curtain, but all the functions in the back, sounded even less sensical than moving from RenCen to SOHO. It made sense in the head of a relentless Piech, and it was eventually validated by Audi’s success.

If Mary Barra and Dan Amman indeed want to restore Cadillac to the pinnacle of global premium brands, then they need a Piech-sized dedication, patience and proclivity for squandering money on projects that won’t be cash-positive in the next quarter.  De Nysschen needs a team that singularly identifies itself as working for Cadillac, and not for GM. For that, the team needs to be pulled off the mothership, and established on its own island.

Says a combative de Nysschen:

    “To all the indignant souls out there- this has nothing to do with Detroit. And certainly has nothing to do with where I choose to live. It has everything to do with creating an awesome car company. We must develop corporate processes, policies, mindsets, behaviors, attitudes, which are right sized for Cadillac and which are immersed in focusing on and responding to what it takes to win in the premium segment. No distractions. No side shows. No cross- brand corporate considerations. No homogenized lowest common denominator approach. Just pure, unadulterated, CLASS. To create this change in approach, Cadillac must put distance between itself and the parent. Not because there is anything wrong at GM- the company is getting its act together like you won’t believe – but because Cadillac needs to FOCUS. And if we don’t move, nothing will change. Physical relocation forces a change to processes. Now, it’s true, we could achieve that, by moving just about anywhere. But if you have to choose a place to set up an iconic global luxury brand, you could indeed do worse than New York. So, Detroit fans, I love your city, the success of Cadillac will be your success, the majority of our jobs remain in Detroit, and as we grow, these will increase too. But other than that – don’t mess with me.”


http://dailykanban.com/2014/09/28/cadillac-boss-johan-de-nysschen-detroit-fans-dont-mess/




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Re: Cadillac Boss Responds To Criticism Over Move To New York
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2014, 07:11:18 PM »
He's actually right. Develop the brand better, sell more cars, increase in jobs in the city where the cars are made.

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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2014, 07:13:14 PM »
The Infiniti ex boss ::)

Guy who likes to just rename cars

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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2014, 07:24:00 PM »
The Infiniti ex boss ::)

Guy who likes to just rename cars

2, 3, 4, 5, 7

A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8

QX50, QX60, QX70, QX80 .....   Makes sense to me.

ATS, CTS, XTS  ?????


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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2014, 07:26:12 PM »
I don't understand this at all. There's very little car culture in Manhattan. Clearly, they have no idea what they're doing.

Perhaps they are trying to create one? While building a bigger brand.

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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2014, 07:27:42 PM »
2, 3, 4, 5, 7

A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8

QX50, QX60, QX70, QX80 .....   Makes sense to me.

ATS, CTS, XTS  ?????



Yeah but completely renamed that Infiniti line up that didn't need renaming changing a good selling car like the g35/g37 to Q50??!

He has hits in audi and but it wasn't renamed

He wasn't involved with caddys ATS, CTS etc..

Had nothing to do with bmw either

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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2014, 07:37:56 PM »
He's actually right. Develop the brand better, sell more cars, increase in jobs in the city where the cars are made.
He wants Cadillac to sell less cars, but they are more expensive.

His schtick left Infiniti with a confusing "Q" system, when the "G" nomenclature was working well for them. And had a Japanese brand move to Hong Kong, where he lived.

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2014, 07:40:38 PM »
Yeah but completely renamed that Infiniti line up that didn't need renaming changing a good selling car like the g35/g37 to Q50??!

He has hits in audi and but it wasn't renamed

He wasn't involved with caddys ATS, CTS etc..

Had nothing to do with bmw either


He thinks the names that Cadillac came up with are stupid.  They are!
The names at BMW and Audi tell the customer which car is more expensive.  It's as simple as that.  I want the customer to aspire to buying an A8.  I want the customer to know by name alone that the A6 is more expensive than the A4.



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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2014, 08:01:38 PM »
And buying an American make is considered low class.

There used to be a time when Audi was little more than an AWD Volkswagen.  The reason Infiniti and Cadillac are paying big bucks for de Nysschen is he was involved in turning Audi around. 

You're right wealthy people do consider buying American to be low class.  His job is to make people who are currently buying BMW's and Mercedes also consider Cadillac.  That's not an easy task, but he did it with Audi.

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2014, 08:27:48 PM »
GM Hopes to Shift Gears After Recalls
CEO Will Outline Strategy to Deliver Profit, Quality and Satisfaction Goals
Wall Street Journal
Joseph B. White
Sept. 29, 2014


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The recent troubles at GM's Cadillac luxury division offer a glimpse of what Ms. Barra's up against, and what she's prepared to do.

In 2012, GM launched the Cadillac ATS, a compact sedan designed to compete head on with the core of the German luxury brand lineups in the U.S., including the BMW BMW.XE -0.50% 3-series. About a year later, a larger, more expensive version of the Cadillac CTS sedan debuted, aimed directly at the Mercedes E-Class and similar German sedans whose prices start at about $45,000.

Sales of both fell short of GM's expectations. By January 2013, Cadillac and its dealers had 147 days' supply of new ATS sedans in stock. By January 2014, supplies of the old and new CTS had ballooned to 183 days' worth, according to data from WardsAuto Infobank, while ATS stocks had swollen to 204 days' worth.

Such high inventories undermined Cadillac's efforts to defend its effort to charge higher prices and boost resale values, which are critical to offering competitively priced leases.

Who was responsible for letting Cadillac inventories get out of hand?

"I would say it's unclear," says Dan Ammann, GM's president. Until last month, responsibility for deciding how many Cadillacs to build was dispersed among executives at the brand and in North American operations, he says.

Now, he says, the lines of authority are "crystal clear." Johan de Nysschen, wooed away from Nissan Motor Co. 7201.TO -1.62% 's Infiniti luxury brand, will make the calls.

The changes at Cadillac are just a start, Ms. Barra says.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/gm-to-shift-gears-set-new-goals-1412036113

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Re: Cadillac Boss Responds To Criticism Over Move To New York
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2014, 09:49:24 PM »
Wait until their bottom line starts getting killed by the combination of local, STATE, federal and corporate tax. NY is worse than California and corporations are bailing from here. They'll be over 70% in no time.

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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2014, 10:22:31 PM »
Wait until their bottom line starts getting killed by the combination of local, STATE, federal and corporate tax. NY is worse than California and corporations are bailing from here. They'll be over 70% in no time.

Exactly and that's why Toyota is moving the North American headquarters to North Texas from Southern California! Also TX is giving them 10k for each job they bring to TX.

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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2014, 10:36:25 PM »
Exactly and that's why Toyota is moving the North American headquarters to North Texas from Southern California! Also TX is giving them 10k for each job they bring to TX.

This guy will be in for a rude awakening in about 4-5 years.

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2014, 06:44:37 AM »
Are you really this big of a simpleton? GM is one of the biggest companies in the world. They employ an army of lobbyists and tax lawyers to keep their tax bill ridiculously low. Do you think that because one of their brands has a small outpost in NYC that it's going to affect its bottom line? Any increased taxes that they pay as a result of this move will be little more than a rounding error. It's not like their moving the assembly line to midtown-Manhattan. Lol.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2014, 08:03:58 AM »
Is all this drama really necessary to just slap a Cadillac badge on a Chevy?

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2014, 10:00:09 AM »
I wish them luck; they are going to need it.  When I was in primary school, you wanted to grow up to own a Cadillac.  No one in grade school feels that way today.  :-[

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2014, 10:00:58 AM »
Are you really this big of a simpleton? GM is one of the biggest companies in the world. They employ an army of lobbyists and tax lawyers to keep their tax bill ridiculously low. Do you think that because one of their brands has a small outpost in NYC that it's going to affect its bottom line? Any increased taxes that they pay as a result of this move will be little more than a rounding error. It's not like their moving the assembly line to midtown-Manhattan. Lol.

They're a shit company that spends too much and overpays workers - look at what happened a few years ago. They're still screwing up and covering up. Big govt owns a big piece & is keeping them afloat somewhat, but sooner or later I think GM will be headed back towards BK. The treasury needs $, and my guess is that they will wait to sell their stake after Obama leaves office. I imagine I'll be among many who are shorting the stock once that happens.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2014, 10:47:28 AM »
Are you really this big of a simpleton? GM is one of the biggest companies in the world. They employ an army of lobbyists and tax lawyers to keep their tax bill ridiculously low. Do you think that because one of their brands has a small outpost in NYC that it's going to affect its bottom line? Any increased taxes that they pay as a result of this move will be little more than a rounding error. It's not like their moving the assembly line to midtown-Manhattan. Lol.

It doesn't matter who they employ. The fact is they are moving a plant to a state with the highest tax bracket in the country and it's still going to be more than if they would have stayed. The bottom line IS the bottom line and to pay higher taxes would take away from that bottom line. They are also faced with recalls and even though they repayed the bailout, last time I read about this they still owe bond holders some $20 + billion. It would make more sense to move to a state such as Texas. (IMO)

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2014, 10:50:38 AM »
It doesn't matter who they employ. The fact is they are moving a plant to a state with the highest tax bracket in the country and it's still going to be more than if they would have stayed. The bottom line IS the bottom line and to pay higher taxes would take away from that bottom line. They are also faced with recalls and even though they repayed the bailout, last time I read about this they still owe bond holders some $20 + billion. It would make more sense to move to a state such as Texas. (IMO)

Joe, why do you stay in California and not move to Texas?

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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2014, 11:02:05 AM »
Joe, why do you stay in California and not move to Texas?

Because unlike GM I can't afford lose everything and start all over again. Until my online training exceeds what I make in my gym, I can't do that.

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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2014, 11:05:49 AM »
Because unlike GM I can't afford lose everything and start all over again. Until my online training exceeds what I make in my gym, I can't do that.

So being in a high tax rate state has been beneficial for you?

I mean, I live here too, and I pay a high tax rate, but I don't complain about it because being here has been great for me... It's worth the extra I pay in taxes.

Maybe I will move somewhere else eventually, but if I do, I doubt it will be due to taxes.

I'm just saying that you have a good life and I don't understand where you are coming from when you complain about stuff at times.

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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2014, 11:17:34 AM »
So being in a high tax rate state has been beneficial for you?

I mean, I live here too, and I pay a high tax rate, but I don't complain about it because being here has been great for me... It's worth the extra I pay in taxes.

Maybe I will move somewhere else eventually, but if I do, I doubt it will be due to taxes.

I'm just saying that you have a good life and I don't understand where you are coming from when you complain about stuff at times.

Do you have your own business or an employee? Yes, I do have a good life but I'm also in business to make money...like anyone in business.

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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2014, 11:19:03 AM »
Do you have your own business or an employee? Yes, I do have a good life but I'm also in business to make money...like anyone in business.

I do not personally... I work for a corporation.

Not quite sure what that has to do with your statements.

Again, you have it better than pretty much 99.99% of the world, yet you act like the sky is constantly falling at times.



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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2014, 11:21:42 AM »
Infiniti renamed all their models was not very smart imo, highly confusing. Usually not a sign of a well thought out brand, if you constantly have to rename your models....quality brands stick with their numbers/names

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2014, 11:31:41 AM »


the entirety of Cadillacs problem begins for the most part with the demographic associated w the brand but it far from ends there. it's a 60+ age bracket demographic. no 30something in his right mind is going to buy a Cadillac over an Audi or bmw. part of the purchase is the status that goes with the brand. it's widely considered and always will be considered an old mans car despite media campaigns to change that perception.

the second battle they face is a quality control issue. it is widely perceived that NA build quality is nowhere near that of it's European competitors.

Cadillac will always be an iconic brand. it was thee luxury car to have for decades. unfortunately those decades are 30-60 decades past. they sat on their asses all those years when it came to build quality, design and attaching the brand to something other than the demographic it's linked to and are now trying to right a sinking ship.

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