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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2009, 12:54:40 PM »
Still dragging on.

Minn. Court Won't Hear Coleman-Franken Case Until June

Friday, April 24, 2009 1:25 PM

Minnesota will head into June without a second U.S. senator under the Supreme Court's schedule for hearing Republican Norm Coleman's appeal.

The court said Friday it won't hold oral arguments until June 1, later than Democrat Al Franken had hoped. In the intervening weeks, the schedule gives the two sides various deadlines for written filings and responses.

Comic-turned-activist Franken has a 312-vote lead over Coleman. But neither can take office until the state courts finish considering Coleman's lawsuit.

Coleman hopes the high court will reverse several rulings by a three-judge panel that backed Franken. At 5 1/2 months and counting, the race has gone on longer than any election in Minnesota history.

Earlier this week, Franken had requested that paperwork be filed by May 4 and oral arguments be held shortly afterward.

"We are grateful that the court has issued an expedited scheduling order, and we look forward to the process continuing to move forward so that Sen.-elect Franken can be seated as quickly as possible," Franken attorney Marc Elias said in a statement.

Coleman spokesman Tom Erickson issued a statement saying it will take time to prepare his case.

"We're pleased that the court has granted an appropriate amount of time to prepare for this historic and consequential case to enfranchise thousands of Minnesota citizens who still wait for their voices to be heard, and their votes to be counted," Erickson said.

Two of the Minnesota court's seven justices plan to sit out the appeal. Chief Justice Eric Magnuson and Justice G. Barry Anderson served on the state board that oversaw the re-count in which Franken pulled past Coleman, the race leader after the initial vote count on Election Day.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/franken_coleman_/2009/04/24/206993.html

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #126 on: April 24, 2009, 01:26:13 PM »
If this were reversed, can you imagine what the righties would be saying about Franken?  I can....

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #127 on: April 27, 2009, 12:00:58 PM »
If this were reversed, can you imagine what the righties would be saying about Franken?  I can....

They said it in other threads, about how if Franken looks like he lost, he should just concede defeat, because it's the honorable thing to do, and Franken would look sad if he didn't.

Is Coleman now sad and dishonorable? I'd say so... I'm sure the righties will disagree.

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2009, 01:49:19 PM »
And so it ends. 

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #130 on: June 30, 2010, 12:16:05 PM »
I wonder what the Minnesota voters are thinking now? 


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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #131 on: June 30, 2010, 12:19:05 PM »
I wonder what the Minnesota voters are thinking now? 



They deserve everything they are getting, including the thousands of job losses with the Racine plant closing and the Export Bank denying the loans for the coal plant. 

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2010, 06:39:37 PM »
I wonder what the Minnesota voters are thinking now? 



They're probably glad they have Picasso in there, and not a sore loser like Coleman.

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #133 on: August 08, 2012, 12:01:03 PM »
Well this is a stain on the Minnesota political landscape.  What a difference a vote (or 1,000 illegal votes) makes. 

York: When 1,099 felons vote in race won by 312 ballots
August 6, 2012
Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
The Washington Examiner
 
In the eyes of the Obama administration, most Democratic lawmakers, and left-leaning editorial pages across the country, voter fraud is a problem that doesn't exist. Allegations of fraud, they say, are little more than pretexts conjured up by Republicans to justify voter ID laws designed to suppress Democratic turnout.

That argument becomes much harder to make after reading a discussion of the 2008 Minnesota Senate race in "Who's Counting?", a new book by conservative journalist John Fund and former Bush Justice Department official Hans von Spakovsky. Although the authors cover the whole range of voter fraud issues, their chapter on Minnesota is enough to convince any skeptic that there are times when voter fraud not only exists but can be critical to the outcome of a critical race.

In the '08 campaign, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman was running for re-election against Democrat Al Franken. It was impossibly close; on the morning after the election, after 2.9 million people had voted, Coleman led Franken by 725 votes.

Franken and his Democratic allies dispatched an army of lawyers to challenge the results. After the first canvass, Coleman's lead was down to 206 votes. That was followed by months of wrangling and litigation. In the end, Franken was declared the winner by 312 votes. He was sworn into office in July 2009, eight months after the election.

During the controversy a conservative group called Minnesota Majority began to look into claims of voter fraud. Comparing criminal records with voting rolls, the group identified 1,099 felons -- all ineligible to vote -- who had voted in the Franken-Coleman race.

Minnesota Majority took the information to prosecutors across the state, many of whom showed no interest in pursuing it. But Minnesota law requires authorities to investigate such leads. And so far, Fund and von Spakovsky report, 177 people have been convicted -- not just accused, but convicted -- of voting fraudulently in the Senate race. Another 66 are awaiting trial. "The numbers aren't greater," the authors say, "because the standard for convicting someone of voter fraud in Minnesota is that they must have been both ineligible, and 'knowingly' voted unlawfully." The accused can get off by claiming not to have known they did anything wrong.

Still, that's a total of 243 people either convicted of voter fraud or awaiting trial in an election that was decided by 312 votes. With 1,099 examples identified by Minnesota Majority, and with evidence suggesting that felons, when they do vote, strongly favor Democrats, it doesn't require a leap to suggest there might one day be proof that Al Franken was elected on the strength of voter fraud.

And that's just the question of voting by felons. Minnesota Majority also found all sorts of other irregularities that cast further doubt on the Senate results.

The election was particularly important because Franken's victory gave Senate Democrats a 60th vote in favor of President Obama's national health care proposal -- the deciding vote to overcome a Republican filibuster. If Coleman had kept his seat, there would have been no 60th vote, and no Obamacare.

Voter fraud matters when contests are close. When an election is decided by a huge margin, no one can plausibly claim fraud made the difference. But the Minnesota race was excruciatingly close. And then, in the Obamacare debate, Democrats could not afford to lose even a single vote. So if there were any case that demonstrates that voter fraud both exists and has real consequences, it is Minnesota 2008.

Yet Democrats across the country continue to downplay the importance of the issue. Last year, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, denounced "the gauzy accusation that voter fraud is somehow a problem, when over and over again it has been proven that you're more likely to get hit by lightning than you are to [be] a victim of voter fraud."

Wasserman Shultz and her fellow Democrats are doing everything they can to stop reasonable anti-fraud measures, like removing ineligible voters from the rolls and voter ID. Through it all, they maintain they are simply defending our most fundamental right, the right to vote.

But voter fraud involves that right, too. "When voters are disenfranchised by the counting of improperly cast ballots or outright fraud, their civil rights are violated just as surely as if they were prevented from voting," write Fund and von Spakovsky. "The integrity of the ballot box is just as important to the credibility of elections as access to it."

http://washingtonexaminer.com/york-when-1099-felons-vote-in-race-won-by-312-ballots/article/2504163

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #134 on: October 13, 2014, 01:50:25 PM »
So?  The overwhelming majority of voters didn't waste their vote on Bob Barr (as you claim to have done).  Who cares. 

Thanks man.

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #135 on: October 13, 2014, 01:52:09 PM »
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So I probably will vote dem.  i'd love to see Obama choose a Wes Clark for a running mate, or a Jim Webb, possibly more likely, for strong military and defense credibility.

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #136 on: October 13, 2014, 01:55:45 PM »
yep, in Feb I said that.   And in the fall I voted Barr.   I've posted it dozens of times.

I know, you get upset I celebrated that Bush/Mccain/cheney shitpile was voted out, and yes, I did.

But I wanted you to see just how vocal I was about Barr, I really like him. 

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #137 on: October 13, 2014, 02:01:35 PM »
People who read this board on a regular basis understand that you are a chronic liar and like to give lip service to a number of Republican candidates, while cheerleading for liberals.  Daily.

Thune 2012.

Bachmann 2012.

Huntsman 2012!

Perry 2012... it's gonna be the ticket.  Without a doubt.

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #138 on: October 13, 2014, 02:04:55 PM »
look at the dates lol.   jan 2011?   LOLOLOLOL

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #139 on: October 13, 2014, 02:10:02 PM »
What the fuck are you two doing, going through the board resurrecting threads and copy-pasting quotes? Take your man-love in a pm instead of making the forum's already horrible signal-to-noise ratio worse.

That one of you is a moderator makes your childish behavior especially egregious.

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #140 on: October 13, 2014, 02:11:54 PM »
What the fuck are you two doing, going through the board resurrecting threads and copy-pasting quotes? Take your man-love in a pm instead of making the forum's already horrible signal-to-noise ratio worse.

That one of you is a moderator makes your childish behavior especially egregious.

Oh lighten up already.  It's all in good fun.  You should try laughing every now and again.  It's good for the soul. 

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #141 on: October 13, 2014, 04:43:36 PM »
Yeah. Necro threads are a barrel of monkeys.

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #142 on: October 13, 2014, 04:53:30 PM »
Oh lighten up already.  It's all in good fun.  You should try laughing every now and again.  It's good for the soul. 


The fact that you are the admin on a polical and political issues board if a fucking joke.

Isnt there a gossip for bitches board that you can admin instead?

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Re: Sen. Coleman Sues Al Franken
« Reply #143 on: October 13, 2014, 04:58:26 PM »

The fact that you are the admin on a polical and political issues board if a fucking joke.

Isnt there a gossip for bitches board that you can admin instead?

I'm not sure?  Is there one you can recommend and can I use you as a reference?