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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #75 on: September 18, 2017, 02:05:32 PM »
He was built when he was 15 in the 30's. He was built while he was in the Army during World War II. Was he juicing in the jungle? In the Army his nick name was The Shape.  He was built decade after decade with no off season slack until his health went south. He won all his bodybuilding titles before the first anabolic steroid was made. Yes testosterone existed but what bodybuilder was using that in the 40's for physique purposes?  This will never be settled. Fans of steroids will give the steroid user label to everyone to justify their use.

Right. Reeves looked like Reeves at 15. People's basic look is their bone structure. Bodybuilding is like make-up for guys. Slack jawed guys with 50 extra lbs of rented muscle are common these days but Reeves still stands out.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2017, 02:40:08 PM »
He used. Even John Grimek admitted to using Dianabol.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2017, 02:41:35 PM »
He used. Even John Grimek admitted to using Dianabol.

Eugene Sandow?

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2017, 02:49:32 PM »
He used. Even John Grimek admitted to using Dianabol.

Dianabol was not even invented until 6 years AFTER Reeves retired.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2017, 02:51:17 PM »
Dianabol was not even invented until 6 years AFTER Reeves retired.

Esfitness invented Dianabol

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2017, 02:56:34 PM »
Esfitness invented Dianabol

Not true, he was in rehab with Dr Ziegler.  ;D

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2017, 03:24:45 PM »
Haters gonna hate.

Reeves may have used, but claims to have never used and no one has any proof he did, so the whole discussion is academic.  I tend to think that Reeves was just incredibly genetically gifted, since his physique is superior to most of the rest of the bodybuilders of his day, but isn't overblown for his height and weight as most steroid users have been through history.  A good example is Larry Scott, one of the early admitted users of steroids.  He was 5'7'' and weighed 208 at his peak.  That is a lot of muscle to pack on such a small frame, much more than previous BBs of his height had.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #82 on: September 18, 2017, 04:13:15 PM »
He used. Even John Grimek admitted to using Dianabol.

Yes, Grimek and Reeves both used testosterone (isolated/developed in the 1930's) and later on, D-bol (first introduced by Ciba in 1958).

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #83 on: September 18, 2017, 04:17:05 PM »
Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty? Seems like he was a narcissistic self absorbed SOB and fake natty too. Great width.



REeves was using steroids just like the rest of those 50's BB"s like Reg park

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #84 on: September 18, 2017, 04:26:01 PM »
He used. Even John Grimek admitted to using Dianabol.
                               read all about it right here.
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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #85 on: September 18, 2017, 04:34:22 PM »
REeves was using steroids just like the rest of those 50's BB"s like Reg park

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.


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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #86 on: September 18, 2017, 04:40:47 PM »
                               read all about it right here.

I would but I don't have it.  >:(

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #87 on: September 18, 2017, 04:54:30 PM »
From his book building the Classic physique.

Upright rowing 3x8-12
Press behind neck 3x8-12
Bent over laterals 3x8-12
barbell Bench press 3x8-12
Dumbbell incline press 3x8-12
Flat bench flys 3x8-12
Chins or pulldown behind neck 3x8-12
Low pulley rows 3x8-12
One arm Dumbbell rows 3x8-12
Standing Barbell curls 3x8-12
Incline Dumbbell curls 3x8-12
High pulley bench curls 3x8-12
Tricep pushdowns 3x8-12
Tricep extensions with Dumbbells 3x8-12
one arm cross over or Dumbbell cross faces 3x8-12
Half squats 3x8-12
Barbell hack lifts 3x8-12
front squats 3x8-12
Buddy assisted leg curl 3x8-12
calf raises(leg press machine) 1x20
Good mornings 3x8-12Partner assisted neck flexation 2x15




He did this routine 3 times a week in less than 1hour..??
And Wasn't using any P.E.D's

Would of liked to see him get through that lot What with loading & unloading the bar
If using any kind of real resistance & resting between sets & exercises in 1hr or less

Let alone recover & grow from three days a week of that & no "Help"

Those that want to believe he wasn't using good for you .... oh & I have a Bridge for Sale.

Either way if he was or wasn't what difference does it make he had a good physique.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #88 on: September 18, 2017, 04:57:23 PM »

He did this routine 3 times a week in less than 1hour..??
And Wasn't using any P.E.D's

Would of liked to see him get through that lot What with loading & unloading the bar
If using any kind of real resistance & resting between sets & exercises in 1hr or less

Let alone recover & grow from three days a week of that & no "Help"

Those that want to believe he wasn't using good for you .... oh & I have a Bridge for Sale.

Either way if he was or wasn't what difference does it make he had a good physique.

6'1" 215 lbs with exceptional genetics , I feel bad for people who think he was on.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #89 on: September 18, 2017, 05:08:51 PM »
6'1" 215 lbs with exceptional genetics , I feel bad for people who think he was on.


And likely Arnold was not using at the 80 Olympia
At a similar height & weight with his Genetics

Or any of the competitors at the 90 Drug Tested Mr Olympia
The Winners were drug tested & passed .
I feel bad for people who think they were on.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #90 on: September 18, 2017, 05:18:33 PM »

And likely Arnold was not using at the 80 Olympia
At a similar height & weight with his Genetics

Or any of the competitors at the 90 Drug Tested Mr Olympia
The Winners were drug tested & passed .
I feel bad for people who think they were on.

Stop it , there is NO history of PEDs in bodybuilding until 1960 at the earliest , D-bols weren't even invented until 1956 , years after Reeves retired. There was a time when there were no drugs in bodybuilding , that was Reeves time. I always ask people to provide any proof of drugs in bodybuilding before Dr John Zeigler and York in the late 50s , I never got any. I got a few vague references & hearsay , nothing of value.


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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #91 on: September 18, 2017, 05:26:26 PM »
Stop it , there is NO history of PEDs in bodybuilding until 1960 at the earliest , D-bols weren't even invented until 1956 , years after Reeves retired. There was a time when there were no drugs in bodybuilding , that was Reeves time. I always ask people to provide any proof of drugs in bodybuilding before Dr John Zeigler and York in the late 50s , I never got any. I got a few vague references & hearsay , nothing of value.



Stop it   ::)  Excuse Me - Who the heck are you.

And you can prove Arnold was using at the 80 Olympia

And who was using at the 90 Drug Tested Olympia - Those That Passed The Test Were Not

As Stated It Makes Zero Difference if Was or Wasn't - He had a good physique
It Matters Zero to Me either way.

You have your view & others theirs.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #92 on: September 18, 2017, 05:40:16 PM »
Stop it   ::)  Excuse Me - Who the heck are you.

And you can prove Arnold was using at the 80 Olympia

And who was using at the 90 Drug Tested Olympia - Those That Passed The Test Were Not

As Stated It Makes Zero Difference if Was or Wasn't - He had a good physique
It Matters Zero to Me either way.

You have your view & others theirs.


Yeah I have a view that's based on facts , others have theirs based on hearsay/opinions. There is a pretty well established time-line for drug use in the sport. When someone says " He was on Dianabol " that's a laughable statement considering it wasn't even invented until almost a decade after he retired.

I'll stick with facts.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #93 on: September 18, 2017, 05:50:31 PM »
From his book building the Classic physique.

Upright rowing 3x8-12
Press behind neck 3x8-12
Bent over laterals 3x8-12
barbell Bench press 3x8-12
Dumbbell incline press 3x8-12
Flat bench flys 3x8-12
Chins or pulldown behind neck 3x8-12
Low pulley rows 3x8-12
One arm Dumbbell rows 3x8-12
Standing Barbell curls 3x8-12
Incline Dumbbell curls 3x8-12
High pulley bench curls 3x8-12
Tricep pushdowns 3x8-12
Tricep extensions with Dumbbells 3x8-12
one arm cross over or Dumbbell cross faces 3x8-12
Half squats 3x8-12
Barbell hack lifts 3x8-12
front squats 3x8-12
Buddy assisted leg curl 3x8-12
calf raises(leg press machine) 1x20
Good mornings 3x8-12Partner assisted neck flexation 2x15


Was this in one session? 65 sets of peace!

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #94 on: September 19, 2017, 03:05:30 AM »
Was this in one session? 65 sets of peace!

that's over a set a minute.

Impossible taking into account loading bars and getting dumbells

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #95 on: September 19, 2017, 03:49:53 AM »
From what I recall, his workouts lasted roughly 3 hours.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #96 on: September 19, 2017, 05:56:22 AM »
looks natural , great structure and muscle bellies though

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #97 on: September 19, 2017, 06:17:00 AM »


Zoom in on the nipple area

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #98 on: September 19, 2017, 06:17:59 AM »
Stop it , there is NO history of PEDs in bodybuilding until 1960 at the earliest , D-bols weren't even invented until 1956 , years after Reeves retired. There was a time when there were no drugs in bodybuilding , that was Reeves time. I always ask people to provide any proof of drugs in bodybuilding before Dr John Zeigler and York in the late 50s , I never got any. I got a few vague references & hearsay , nothing of value.



Yer arse in parsley.   JCG himself was quite open about his testosterone experimentation in the 40's and 50's.

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Re: Do you think that Steve Reeves was a fake natty?
« Reply #99 on: September 19, 2017, 06:21:01 AM »


Zoom in on the nipple area

many guys have slight gyno or puffy nipples without ever using drugs , it doesn't mean anything , especially considering the year that photo was taken