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Well this is surprising.  Unless the ruling is changed I would imagine the Supreme Court has to stop kicking the can down the road. 

Gay marriage bans in four states upheld, Supreme Court review likely
Richard Wolf, USA TODAY 8:29 a.m. EST November 7, 2014

The same-sex marriage movement lost its first major case in a federal appeals court Thursday after a lengthy string of victories, creating a split among the nation's circuit courts that virtually guarantees Supreme Court review.

The 2-1 ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit reversed district court rulings that had struck down gay marriage bans in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee.

More important, it gives Supreme Court justices an appellate ruling that runs counter to four others from the 4th, 7th, 9th and 10th circuits. Those rulings struck down same-sex marriage bans in Virginia, Indiana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Utah, Idaho and Nevada, leading to similar action in neighboring states.

Circuit Judge Jeffrey Sutton, one of the Republican Party's most esteemed legal thinkers and writers, issued the 42-page decision precisely three months after hearing oral arguments in the cases, with fellow GOP nominee Deborah Cook concurring. He delivered a rare defeat for proponents of same-sex marriage, who had won nearly all the cases decided from Florida to Alaska since the Supreme Court ruled against the federal Defense of Marriage Act in June 2013.

Sutton argued that appellate judges' hands are tied by a one-sentence Supreme Court ruling from 1972, which "upheld the right of the people of a state to define marriage as they see it." Last year's high court decision requiring the federal government to recognize legal same-sex marriages does not negate the earlier ruling as it applies to states where gay marriage is not legal, he said. The same reasoning was used by a federal district court judge in Puerto Rico last month.

"When the courts do not let the people resolve new social issues like this one, they perpetuate the idea that the heroes in these change events are judges and lawyers," Sutton said. "Better in this instance, we think, to allow change through the customary political processes, in which the people, gay and straight alike, become the heroes of their own stories by meeting each other not as adversaries in a court system but as fellow citizens seeking to resolve a new social issue in a fair-minded way."

He also maintained that states "got into the business of defining marriage, and remain in the business of defining marriage, not to regulate love but to regulate sex, most especially the intended and unintended effects of male-female intercourse."

The six cases before the three-judge panel involved not only whether gays and lesbians should be able to marry, but whether marriages performed elsewhere should be recognized, whether same-sex couples should be able to adopt children, and whether their names should be placed on partners' death certificates.

Judge Martha Craig Daughtrey, a Democratic appointee, delivered a blistering 22-page dissent. She disputed Sutton's reasoning that judges should not decide the issue.

"If we in the judiciary do not have the authority, and indeed the responsibility, to right fundamental wrongs left excused by a majority of the electorate, our whole intricate, constitutional system of checks and balances, as well as the oaths to which we swore, prove to be nothing but shams," Daughtrey said.

BOTH SIDES LOOK TO SUPREME COURT

After enduring a prolonged losing streak, opponents of same-sex marriage were elated with the appeals court ruling.

"This decision gives greater certainty that this matter will ultimately return to the Supreme Court, as we have said all along that it must," said Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage. "We think that the constitutionality of states' amendments on marriage will there be upheld."

Byron Babione, senior counsel at the Alliance Defending Freedom, said the court's ruling demonstrates that "the Constitution does not demand that one irreversible view of marriage be judicially imposed on everyone."

Proponents of same-sex marriage saw Sutton's opinion as an appeal to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, who has authored the last three major rulings advancing the cause of gay rights. Kennedy has defended voters' right to pass constitutional amendments -- but he struck down the federal same-sex marriage ban as an affront to the constitutional rights of gays and lesbians.

Lawyers working on gay marriage cases from coast to coast wasted no time preparing for a Supreme Court showdown.

"We will be filing for Supreme Court review right away and hope that through this deeply disappointing ruling, we will be able to bring a uniform rule of equality to the entire country," said Chase Strangio, staff attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union.

The Supreme Court last month refused to reconsider the Utah, Oklahoma, Virginia, Indiana and Wisconsin cases, at least in part because there was no conflict among the federal appeals courts. But Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg told a Minneapolis audience that a ruling against same-sex marriage from the 6th Circuit panel would make Supreme Court consideration more urgent.

In his ruling, Sutton was not swayed by the earlier rulings from his appeals court colleagues. "Four courts of appeals thus far have recognized a constitutional right to same-sex marriage. They agree on one thing: the result. But they reach that outcome in many ways, often more than one way in the same decision," he said.

Nor was he swayed by the Supreme Court's inaction on those other cases, the result of which was to greatly expand same-sex marriage from North Carolina to Alaska. "A decision not to decide is a decision not to decide," he said.

And he most certainly was not swayed by gay marriage proponents' arguments for why same-sex marriage should be legalized through the courts.

"Not one of the plaintiffs' theories ... makes the case for constitutionalizing the definition of marriage and for removing the issue from the place it has been since the founding: in the hands of state voters," Sutton said.

GAY MARRIAGE JUGGERNAUT STOPPED

Thirty-two states and the District of Columbia allow same-sex couples to marry, including the five states from which the high court turned down appeals. Since then, eight additional states have been added to the list: Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, North Carolina, West Virginia and Wyoming. Three more states -- Kansas, Montana and South Carolina -- also are bound by the appeals court rulings.

The justices ruled 5-4 in June 2013 that the federal government must recognize same-sex marriages legally performed in states that allow them. They also refused to overrule a California court's decision striking down that state's ban.

Those rulings have led federal and state judges to overturn state bans in more than two dozen more recent decisions. The string of federal court victories was broken in early September in Louisiana, where a federal district judge upheld that state's ban. Then in October, a federal judge in Puerto Rico upheld the territory's ban.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit upheld Nebraska's gay marriage ban in 2006, long before the Supreme Court's ruling last year. But in deciding not to consider any cases recently, the justices clearly did not give that decision equal weight in determining whether the appeals courts were divided.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/06/gay-marriage-appeals-court-ohio-michigan-kentucky-tennessee/15712319/

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Re: Gay marriage bans in four states upheld, Supreme Court review likely
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 10:56:10 AM »
Supreme Court could weigh in on same sex marriage bans by next June
By Shannon Bream
Published November 10, 2014
FoxNews.com

With a ruling last week by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals on same sex marriage bans, it appears likely the Supreme Court will ultimately weigh in on the contentious issue, possibly before their term ends in June 2015.

Until recently, all of the federal appeals courts that considered state bans on same sex marriage had struck them down. Then the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals broke with that trend last week, upholding bans in four states. In a 2-1 decision, the Sixth Circuit essentially held that states should have the authority to decide questions regarding marriage.

Appeals regarding same sex marriage bans did reach the nation's highest court earlier this year, but because there was no conflict in the federal circuits, the Justices declined to hear the cases.

Now that a split exists, the Court is much more likely to have to confront the subject, possibly by the middle of next year. Advocates both for and against same sex marriage agree on that, but not much more.

Elizabeth Wydra, Chief Counsel for the Constitutional Accountability Center, said, "Simply because a majority of people vote to ban same sex marriage does not mean they can ignore the guarantees and requirements of the Constitution."

Wydra is among those who believe same sex couples have a "fundamental right" to marriage, based on the Equal Protection Clause found in the 14th Amendment. She remains cautiously optimistic that a majority of the Justices will agree.

Supporters of traditional marriage see a chance to argue before the Supreme Court as a new opportunity, at a time when many are urging them to give up the fight.

Jordan Lorence, Senior Counsel for the Alliance Defending Freedom, said he believed "public policy" issues should be at the top of the Justices' considerations, adding, "The Supreme Court should step out of the way and let this be decided by the people, by the state legislatures."

If an appeal from the Sixth Circuit moves expeditiously, and the Justices agree to take up the case, it could be heard in the spring and decided by late June 2015. It's also highly possible that the procedural timeline pushes the case into the Court's next term, starting in October 2015.

Also Monday, Justice Sonia Sotomayor granted an emergency request from Kansas officials who argued they should not be forced to begin issuing same sex marriage licenses while the legal dispute over the state’s law remains active. Sotomayor has ordered the opposing parties to file a response by 5pm ET on Tuesday.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/10/supreme-court-could-weigh-in-on-same-sex-marriage-bans-by-next-june/?intcmp=latestnews

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Re: Gay marriage bans in four states upheld, Supreme Court review likely
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2014, 12:39:34 PM »
This will test two Supreme Court rulings: The one from last year (Windsor vs. USA), which struck down part of DOMA; the other will be from 42 years ago (Baker v. Nelson), which directly answers the question as to whether or not defining marriage as a man and woman violates the Constitution.

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Re: Gay marriage bans in four states upheld, Supreme Court review likely
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2014, 12:55:47 PM »
This will test two Supreme Court rulings: The one from last year (Windsor vs. USA), which struck down part of DOMA; the other will be from 42 years ago (Baker v. Nelson), which directly answers the question as to whether or not defining marriage as a man and woman violates the Constitution.

I think they are going to uphold the other circuits that struck down marriage bans, with probably Kennedy being the swing vote. 

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Re: Gay marriage bans in four states upheld, Supreme Court review likely
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2014, 01:01:40 PM »
I think they are going to uphold the other circuits that struck down marriage bans, with probably Kennedy being the swing vote. 
It depends. The 8th Circuit Court upheld Nebraska's marriage amendment, reversing a lower court ruling. And it covers Missouri, which just had its amendment overturned. If the 8th Circuit overturns that judge and reinstates Missouri's amendment, along with the 5th and 11th which are still deliberating, it could turn the tide.

The key with the 6th Circuit court's ruling is that it used both Kennedy's ruling in Windsor AND the ruling in Baker to uphold those four states' amendments.

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Re: Gay marriage bans in four states upheld, Supreme Court review likely
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2014, 01:44:12 PM »
It depends. The 8th Circuit Court upheld Nebraska's marriage amendment, reversing a lower court ruling. And it covers Missouri, which just had its amendment overturned. If the 8th Circuit overturns that judge and reinstates Missouri's amendment, along with the 5th and 11th which are still deliberating, it could turn the tide.

The key with the 6th Circuit court's ruling is that it used both Kennedy's ruling in Windsor AND the ruling in Baker to uphold those four states' amendments.

Yeah, I just think the tide has turned on this.  Also, remember the Colorado ruling from several years ago?  I recall Kennedy saying something like states cannot single out a group (like homosexuals) and deny them legal protections.  I can see him doing something similar here. 

And if you think about it, homosexuals have been made a protected class over the past 15-20 years.  That brings that whole equal protection argument into play. 

I could be wrong, but for the past several years I have been telling one of my good friends who is a politically active traditional marriage crusader that this issue is over already.  Public opinion has changed.  Laws have changed.  Courts are almost all ruling the same way.  It's done IMO.