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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2014, 03:07:06 PM »
Why do people think muscle recovery runs on a 7 day cycle?  ::)

it says so in Flex magazine. Can't go wrong with that

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2014, 03:12:49 PM »
I've trained this way many times.

I'm doing it now in fact, half way into the second week.

I did squats this morning, midday I'm doing chest, shoulders, triceps, and in the evening back, biceps. Repeat in two days.

I'm recovering well and making great gains, squat is up 5 kg already. In the first squat workout I did 8 reps with my starting weight. 6 workouts later I did 10 reps with 5 kg added to the bar this morning. In two days I add another 2.5 kg and see how many reps I get.



If your train hard, legs especially, no way you can go hard, back as well. I can see it working for a beginner who can't generate much intensity into sets. Avanded guys do not add weight like that week after week or we'd all be benching 700lbs for reps...
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2014, 03:14:02 PM »
The old school guys used to do full body workouts 3 times per week.

This was back in the day of no to little steroids, maybe some dianabol if they were lucky.

Supposed natural Leroy Colbert build this body with full body 3 times per week.




that guy is not natural though

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2014, 03:14:45 PM »
The old school guys used to do full body workouts 3 times per week.

This was back in the day of no to little steroids, maybe some dianabol if they were lucky.

Supposed natural Leroy Colbert build this body with full body 3 times per week.





guys like Sergio were known to take dbals by the HANDFUL, so depends how you define "a little gear" but you old guys love to defend those guys that it was all hard work and shit and the drugs had no impact on the old school phyisques. Wake the hell up man, making a total fool of yourself...
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2014, 03:42:13 PM »
I've been training over 15 years.

I'm doing this routine after a 3 month cut so gaining back some lost strength.

I'm doing low volume, only two work sets of squats. In the first week was 1 set. I might increase to 3 sets depending on progress and recovery.

The fact is muscles recover much faster than you think.

Look at how elite olympic weightlifters train. Some teams such as the Bulgarians max out on lifts multiple times per day, every day, 7 days a week, in order to peak for a comp. Why don't you tell them that it's too much.

could care less how they trained as they look like shit. So you been a beginner for 15 years. I see... NO worries, soon you will be generating intensity that warrants more time off...
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2014, 03:50:49 PM »
guys like Sergio were known to take dbals by the HANDFUL, so depends how you define "a little gear" but you old guys love to defend those guys that it was all hard work and shit and the drugs had no impact on the old school phyisques. Wake the hell up man, making a total fool of yourself...

i agree,guys like steve reeves,bill pearl,sergio ect used steroids(dbol) ,they called them TISSUE DRUGS BACK THEN
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2014, 04:03:30 PM »
I try to get to within one rep of failure in the main lifts. Sometimes I miscalculate and hit failure. I don't do negatives or forced reps as not really needed when training so frequently. I'm not that into DOMS, walking around like a cripple.

If I trained the squat once per week I estimate it would have taken around a month to make these gains vs 1.5 weeks of more frequent training, hobbling around with DOMS for half a week.

It makes sense, I'm hitting the muscle more often, they are in a constant state of protein synthesis, just need to give it enough calories, protein and 48 hours rest.

With once a week per bodypart, there will be a period of the week where the muscle is not growing.

I only do the once a week per body part style of training to maintain muscle mass, like when cutting.


True. After say 5 days it deflates, lol! But...  I did all I could to fit all in a shorter split and it just does not work. I've been very open to trying odd splits but go back to my original love...

All the best in this, hope it brings you gains!!!
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2014, 04:05:09 PM »
i agree,guys like steve reeves,bill pearl,sergio ect used steroids(dbol) ,they called them TISSUE DRUGS BACK THEN

Gotta be careful droping that name as some real die hard fan boys come to rescue his "innocence of roid usage" lol!!! Oh dear lord...
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2014, 04:36:18 PM »
a.m. fasted cardio

p.m. fasted training

WFT, when do you eat?

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2014, 04:38:28 PM »
This thread is dying for the return of Galeniko or no one.

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2014, 04:45:39 PM »
WFT, when do you eat?

I saw that too, lol...
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2014, 04:58:33 PM »
This thread is dying for the return of Galeniko or no one.

Wonder what Gal is up to.

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2014, 05:01:22 PM »
Good thing cartilage has an infinite lifespan otherwise you'd risk being crippled with arthritis from training too hard and too often.    ::)

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2014, 05:58:01 PM »
Yes, I have a quite a few training templates that I've designed.

Can you share your current one? If not wanting to post, you can PM me... Very rare on this board that I would take training tips from anyone (but a few)...

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2014, 06:36:54 PM »
Gotta be careful droping that name as some real die hard fan boys come to rescue his "innocence of roid usage" lol!!! Oh dear lord...

Still, the compounds were NOTHING compared to what's out there today in terms of potency.

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2014, 08:01:52 PM »
Still, the compounds were NOTHING compared to what's out there today in terms of potency.

yet people claim ALL THE TIME the drugs were so much better back then and now the UG stuff is crap! Would still have been cool to see those guys geared up with some tren though...
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2014, 09:18:59 PM »
yet people claim ALL THE TIME the drugs were so much better back then and now the UG stuff is crap! Would still have been cool to see those guys geared up with some tren though...

I agree it would have. Always wondered what type of physique that would create, because I really do believe there was less reliability on the drugs and more on heavy weight lifting movements and diet.

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2014, 09:25:57 PM »
I agree it would have. Always wondered what type of physique that would create, because I really do believe there was less reliability on the drugs and more on heavy weight lifting movements and diet.

This!!!!
But diet is much more sophisticated now I find. The info is there, but are they applying it is what i wonder or is it just the mega drugs making for such watery physiques now?

Could always argue the food was not full of chemical shit either... GMO galore now... I think they also used less, it's only normal guys use more as long as not too many guys are dropping left and right, seems safe, right?



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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2014, 04:07:32 AM »
While I believe that lifting with a higher frequency can be beneficial, short-term protein synthesis studies don't give the whole picture. You can't necessarily extrapolate that into long-term gains. There are other mechanisms to consider too, for example satellite cell activation.

Also certain people seem to think that just the frequency in itself will be 'magic' but if you are only doing 2-3 sets per bodypart/ FB workout I doubt your gains will be any better (on average) than blasting the muscle once a week with a moderate volume split routine. Because the overall weekly training load won't be much different(in simple terms for example compare 5x2 vs 1x10), if anything the once a week frequency will be superior for growth at that level of weekly volume (strength in specific exercises might be a bit different). To get the most of high(er) frequency your total volume needs to be pushed up (at some point) beyond what you would achieve via a 1-2/week frequency.


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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #69 on: December 11, 2014, 04:23:25 AM »
i remember when i was 12 or so,i lifted with the ole 3 days a week/whole body workout till i was 15 or so.once i joined diamond gym i started watching and learning about more advanced type of training methods, i switched to a 3 on and 1 off,
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repeat mondays workout on friday and so on.    it worked great and stayed with that for 2 years or so,then i started experimenting with training 1 bodypart a day and training 5 days in a row before taking a rest day. im a huge believer in the more advanced and bigger a person gets the less he should train and the more he should rest, when he does train its short,brutal and intense though.when a person starts out lifting they will grow pretty much on any routine cause their bodys aint used to the stress on the muscles and will get bigger and stronger regardless,as u get bigger and stronger u must adjust your workouts or else a person will hit a sticking point
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2014, 05:23:52 AM »
i remember when i was 12 or so,i lifted with the ole 3 days a week/whole body workout till i was 15 or so.once i joined diamond gym i started watching and learning about more advanced type of training methods, i switched to a 3 on and 1 off,
pecs-tris-monday
back-bis-tuesday
legs-delts-wed
off-rest day-thur
repeat mondays workout on friday and so on.    it worked great and stayed with that for 2 years or so,then i started experimenting with training 1 bodypart a day and training 5 days in a row before taking a rest day. im a huge believer in the more advanced and bigger a person gets the less he should train and the more he should rest, when he does train its short,brutal and intense though.when a person starts out lifting they will grow pretty much on any routine cause their bodys aint used to the stress on the muscles and will get bigger and stronger regardless,as u get bigger and stronger u must adjust your workouts or else a person will hit a sticking point

this...

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #71 on: December 11, 2014, 05:52:22 AM »
How about listening to your body?

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2014, 06:29:47 AM »
How about listening to your body?

Fuck that. My body is a crybaby. I have to slap it around.

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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2014, 06:32:31 AM »
Fuck that. My body is a crybaby. I have to slap it around.

same here man,ive all i did was listen to my body in be in bed 24/7 and train 1hr a week :D,my bodys always telling me its tired.thats where the mental side of me understands the difference between needing a rest once in awhile from training and just being pure lazy
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Re: Lift 6-7x days a week?
« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2014, 06:33:23 AM »
Fuck that. My body is a crybaby. I have to slap it around.

agreed..everyday when I wake up, my brain says "lets go"...my body then answers "fuck you".