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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #100 on: December 20, 2014, 11:49:03 AM »
It was a planned agenda that was all set up and crammed down our throats that not a single Republican voted for and probably not a single Dem bothered to read. Are you familiar with Jonathan Gruber? The majority of the country has never been in favor of it.

They still give him everything he wants anyway. "Compromise" means they give Obama everything so that the MSM doesn't call them racist and blame them for everything.

How about big govt stay out of it completely? Or at least fix things piecemeal rather than a 2500 page manifesto that put 16% of the economy in the government's hands and screws most of the country.

First of all the reason why there was not one Republican vote for Obamacare is because the political machine doesn't allow people to vote their conscience....how is it that NOT ONE Republican saw the benefits of Obamacare ?...its not logical that every single one felt the same way...they voted that way due to being threatened to do so by their leadership....if they didn't, there would be no goodies for them and they would face a primary challenge from the fruitcake tea party.....again, the Repubs just say no to everything so that's why Obama now acts alone...if he didn't nothing would get done

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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #101 on: December 20, 2014, 11:52:03 AM »
Fools.  Russia will outweather the little storm.  If Americans are smart they will see that El Presidente Obobo leads them to years, nay decades, of famine, while Russia rises strong and dominant over a nation of "entertainment" obsessed zombies.

Dude..lay off the mushrooms

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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #102 on: December 20, 2014, 12:00:29 PM »
Putin hating life due to low oil prices. Muslims-attacking with cheap oil. Who would of thought.

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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #103 on: December 20, 2014, 12:45:22 PM »
Why did Bush steal Saddam's oils?

Politicians are power hungry greedy individuals by nature, if we argue about who's the higher thief and who's the bigger liar that's a pointless conversation.

He didn't, but if we had to go over there in the first place at such great expense he should have at least taken the oil.
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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #104 on: December 20, 2014, 12:56:27 PM »
First of all the reason why there was not one Republican vote for Obamacare is because the political machine doesn't allow people to vote their conscience....how is it that NOT ONE Republican saw the benefits of Obamacare ?...its not logical that every single one felt the same way...they voted that way due to being threatened to do so by their leadership....if they didn't, there would be no goodies for them and they would face a primary challenge from the fruitcake tea party.....again, the Repubs just say no to everything so that's why Obama now acts alone...if he didn't nothing would get done

Any "benefits" are obviously heavily outweighed by its liabilities. If a bill is too long and you're not given enough time to read it, it's probably not a good idea to vote for it. Or if you read it and it contains other things that could be harmful, you vote against it and make your opposition start over with a better bill.

Again, it was all planned out. Health insurance does not equal health care, and poor people can already get health care here anyway. That's not the way to improve the system - that's the way to destroy the current system and try to replace it totally. It was all a big power grab - "Fundamental Transformation of America".

Maybe you're ok with Obama's record number of exec orders / "memos" and his disregard for the Constitution, and you want and need a strong central government to provide for you and make your decisions for you. Or perhaps you're part of the radical "revolution" led by Sharpton and co, or are a far left anti-capitalist or environmentalist. But I suspect that if he was a conservative or possessed other different demographic characteristics you'd not support him so blindly and make such excuses for him.
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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #105 on: December 20, 2014, 12:59:12 PM »
Any "benefits" are obviously heavily outweighed by its liabilities. If a bill is too long and you're not given enough time to read it, it's probably not a good idea to vote for it. Or if you read it and it contains other things that could be harmful, you vote against it and make your opposition start over with a better bill.

Again, it was all planned out. Health insurance does not equal health care, and poor people can already get health care here anyway. That's not the way to improve the system - that's the way to destroy the current system and try to replace it totally. It was all a big power grab - "Fundamental Transformation of America".

Maybe you're ok with Obama's record number of exec orders / "memos" and his disregard for the Constitution, and you want and need a strong central government to provide for you and make your decisions for you. Or perhaps you're part of the radical "revolution" led by Sharpton and co, or are a far left anti-capitalist or environmentalist. But I suspect that if he was a conservative or possessed other different demographic characteristics you'd not support him so blindly and make such excuses for him.

Unfortunately at this present time we need strong central government to make decisions that desperately need to be made...because the  congress is incapable of doing so at this time due to grid lock

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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #106 on: December 20, 2014, 01:05:33 PM »
Unfortunately at this present time we need strong central government to make decisions that desperately need to be made...because the  congress is incapable of doing so at this time due to grid lock

No, we need a much smaller government that knows its place and allows America to fix itself. Maybe you need big brother to make your decisions for you, but despite what Mr Gruber thinks the majority of Americans do not.

The federal government should only protect us from legit fraud and harm and otherwise stay out of the way. But they cannot even do that right - North Korea is a perfect example. I guess they're too busy using the IRS to target conservatives, the EPA to harass farmers and oilmen, and the AG to go after local and state law enforcement rather than foreign enemies to actually do what we pay them to do.
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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #107 on: December 20, 2014, 01:08:55 PM »
No, we need a much smaller government that knows its place and allows America to fix itself. Maybe you need big brother to make your decisions for you, but despite what Mr Gruber thinks the majority of Americans do not.

The federal government should only protect us from legit fraud and harm and otherwise stay out of the way. But they cannot even do that right - North Korea is a perfect example. I guess they're too busy using the IRS to target conservatives, the EPA to harass farmers and oilmen, and the AG to go after local and state law enforcement rather than foreign enemies to actually do what we pay them to do.
Dude, smaller government is not happening...even the repubs who claim they want smaller gov don't do anything about this

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Re: Why Putin > Obama
« Reply #108 on: December 20, 2014, 01:22:27 PM »
Dude, smaller government is not happening...even the repubs who claim they want smaller gov don't do anything about this


It certainly doesn't need to keep getting bigger and more intrusive. Do you just throw your hands up and let them take over your life completely because the president is "cool" or "down"?

How much of your money do you want to let them take? 90%?

Do you want them to determine which healthcare treatments, screenings, etc you're allowed to have based upon your age? Should they basically determine how long you're allowed to live and how much of your property you can keep among other things?
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