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Re: Black Brunch....hahhah have you guys heard about these retards yet?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2015, 04:18:32 PM »


Yeah, they should just hate on him rather than consider maybe their doing something wrong, lol.

Strong logic.


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No.  They should condemn his actions and engage in peaceful protests.  Didn't say anything about hate.  And I completely understand why they don't like him.

But then again, aren't you one of those who believe we live in a police state?  

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2015, 04:21:53 PM »
No.  They should condemn his actions and engage in peaceful protests.  Didn't say anything about hate.  And I completely understand why they don't like him.

But then again, aren't you one of those who believe we live in a police state? 



Or, they should accept they are doing something wrong.  Apparently the majority of NY's - you know, the one's actually dealing with NYPD - clearly feel there is a serious problem.

And no, but I think we're trending in that direction.  Probably won't happen in my life time or my kids, but on the present course, I think that's the inevitable result of continuously putting thousands upon thousands of new laws, rules, and regulations from multiple levels of government.

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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2015, 04:25:52 PM »


Or, they should accept they are doing something wrong.  Apparently the majority of NY's - you know, the one's actually dealing with NYPD - clearly feel there is a serious problem.

And no, but I think we're trending in that direction.  Probably won't happen in my life time or my kids, but on the present course, I think that's the inevitable result of continuously putting thousands upon thousands of new laws, rules, and regulations from multiple levels of government.

Yeah they're doing something wrong like helping dramatically reduce crime.  The horror. 

Who says the voters made their decision on de Blasio because of, rather than in spite of, his anti-cop views?

I don't think we're anywhere near a police state, unless you have your own definition.

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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2015, 04:27:32 PM »


Yeah, they should just hate on him rather than consider maybe their doing something wrong, lol.

Strong logic.


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same could be said for the fucknuts that voted for in as a result of his anti police policy....what do you think causes more issues, police abusing their powers or fucknuts breaking the law?


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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2015, 04:28:25 PM »
Nothing but an pointless empty gesture.  If they value black lives they need to work harder on improving black communities.  All the effort invested in meaningless and useless "protesting" could have been funneled into community improvement programs. These protests are nothing but ego trips by fools desperate to be part of something bigger than themselves.
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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2015, 04:31:57 PM »
you seem to be awfully interested in the lives of black people....ANOTHER BLACK OBSESSION THREAD ???
LMFAO are you serious kid?

the inferiority complex that most blacks have causes them to obsess over whites all the time. You dont see whites rioting when a black kills a white do you? you dont see black people rioting when a black kills a black do you?

I have said it for a long time now, the worst problem facing blacks is their own mindsets/values in their communities.

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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2015, 04:35:22 PM »
Yeah they're doing something wrong like helping dramatically reduce crime.  The horror. 

Who says the voters made their decision on de Blasio because of, rather than in spite of, his anti-cop views?

I don't think we're anywhere near a police state, unless you have your own definition.



Yeah, that's all their doing, fighting crime, lol.

There is no standard definition for police state and your opinion carries the same weight as mine or any other.  In fact, when I was getting my grad degree in government, it's hard as hell just to define our own government.  And, it often rests on the opinion of the person doing the evaluation.

That's why I typically avoid such arguments as they go nowhere.


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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2015, 04:37:16 PM »
same could be said for the fucknuts that voted for in as a result of his anti police policy....what do you think causes more issues, police abusing their powers or fucknuts breaking the law?






Not sure what that has to do with it.  A problem is a problem.  Comparing it to a bigger problem changes nothing.  Both need a resolution.


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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2015, 04:39:58 PM »
Not sure what that has to do with it.  A problem is a problem.  Comparing it to a bigger problem changes nothing.  Both need a resolution.
in many instances both of these problems are intertwined with one another.

Do you really think garner would have been put in a "choke hold" if he had not resisted arrest?

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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2015, 05:01:30 PM »
in many instances both of these problems are intertwined with one another.

Do you really think garner would have been put in a "choke hold" if he had not resisted arrest?

The difference is that police corruption or brutality is something that is rarely dealt with. That is why the Ferguson thread iI posted earlier today is notable, even if you don't see any problems with the outcome. The prosecutor didn't put on a thorough case but is presenting it to the media like he did. It's an open secret that cases with cops aren't prosecuted vigorously. Why you think this issue begins and ends with blacks being killed is beyond me.

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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2015, 05:16:28 PM »
The difference is that police corruption or brutality is something that is rarely dealt with. That is why the Ferguson thread iI posted earlier today is notable, even if you don't see any problems with the outcome. The prosecutor didn't put on a thorough case but is presenting it to the media like he did. It's an open secret that cases with cops aren't prosecuted vigorously. Why you think this issue begins and ends with blacks being killed is beyond me.
there you go sticking words in my mouth again. I never said the issue begins and ends with blacks killing blacks but you do realize that is a much bigger issue for the black communities than aggressive policing dont you? I mean its not even on the map in comparison to blacks killing blacks.

I can agree that police brutality is something that is dealt with at a lower rate and needs to be addressed. The issue that the protestors should have is with the bigger problem however. How many protests have their been for blacks killed by blacks?

how many protests have their been for whites killed by blacks?

this is just another issue in the long line of issues that the black community has placed out in front to keep from addressing the root of the issues in their communities.

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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2015, 05:28:25 PM »
Nothing but an pointless empty gesture.  If they value black lives they need to work harder on improving black communities.  All the effort invested in meaningless and useless "protesting" could have been funneled into community improvement programs. These protests are nothing but ego trips by fools desperate to be part of something bigger than themselves.

I guess seems to be the move now.

Every Joe Schmoe and his 90 year old grandmother are labeled "white supremecists" while just trying to eat a peaceful lunch at a restaurant.

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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2015, 05:35:58 PM »
there you go sticking words in my mouth again. I never said the issue begins and ends with blacks killing blacks but you do realize that is a much bigger issue for the black communities than aggressive policing dont you? I mean its not even on the map in comparison to blacks killing blacks.

I never said that, either. What I did say is that the issue of police brutality doesn't begin and end with blacks being killed. Blacks aren't the only ones who are victims of over-aggressive police. Death isn't the only outcome of overaggressive policing tactics.

(For the record, even though it's completely unrelated to my point, most people- of ANY race are killed by people of the same race.)

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I can agree that police brutality is something that is dealt with at a lower rate and needs to be addressed. The issue that the protestors should have is with the bigger problem however. How many protests have their been for blacks killed by blacks?

Why? Because you say so?

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how many protests have their been for whites killed by blacks?
How many blacks go to trial and are acquitted of killing whites? How many blacks killed cops and got off?


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this is just another issue in the long line of issues that the black community has placed out in front to keep from addressing the root of the issues in their communities.
Naw. Overpolicing is a pretty serious problem and these recent cases are just tipping points.

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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2015, 05:43:48 PM »
Why? Because you say so?
LMFAO not b/c I say so bc it is a much bigger problem than overpolicing for the black community

How many blacks go to trial and are acquitted of killing whites? How many blacks killed cops and got off?
Why dont you tell us albert?

what % of blacks are guilty? what % of the cops are guilty?

Naw. Overpolicing is a pretty serious problem and these recent cases are just tipping points.
you seriously think that overpolicing is a bigger issue than black on black crime in the black community?

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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2015, 06:06:17 PM »
LMFAO not b/c I say so bc it is a much bigger problem than overpolicing for the black community
LOL then because you say so.  ::) You don't get to dictate what is an important issue to others.

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Why dont you tell us albert?
what % of blacks are guilty? what % of the cops are guilty?
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you seriously think that overpolicing is a bigger issue than black on black crime in the black community?
It is a pretty serious issue. Whether or not it's a bigger issue than " black on black crime in the black community" (a completely stupid turn of phrase), is really beside the point.

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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2015, 06:23:40 PM »


Yeah, that's all their doing, fighting crime, lol.

There is no standard definition for police state and your opinion carries the same weight as mine or any other.  In fact, when I was getting my grad degree in government, it's hard as hell just to define our own government.  And, it often rests on the opinion of the person doing the evaluation.

That's why I typically avoid such arguments as they go nowhere.



By and large, yes, they fight crime.  And in NYC they have done it remarkably well according to the statistics I've heard. 

Actually there is a standard definition of "police state," unless you don't consider the dictionary to be standard:

"a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/police%20state


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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2015, 06:25:40 PM »
By and large, yes, they fight crime.  And in NYC they have done it remarkably well according to the statistics I've heard. 



No, they don't. They mostly collect revenue. In the last couple of weeks, the decline in summonses and petty arrests isn't them not fighting crime. It's them not collecting revenue.

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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2015, 06:34:41 PM »
No, they don't. They mostly collect revenue. In the last couple of weeks, the decline in summonses and petty arrests isn't them not fighting crime. It's them not collecting revenue.

Good Lord.   ::)

Take a look at Ferguson.  Those animals would have overrun the entire friggin city without the cops enforcing the law. 

As I've said before, we are one step removed from anarchy.  Law enforcement is one of the primary reasons who maintain that one step.

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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2015, 06:35:32 PM »
By and large, yes, they fight crime.  And in NYC they have done it remarkably well according to the statistics I've heard. 

Actually there is a standard definition of "police state," unless you don't consider the dictionary to be standard:

"a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures."

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/police%20state






C'mon Beach, I know you're smarter than that.  The issue at hand is 'how' they are fighting the crime.


No, that is not a standard definition, it's a definition.  And, I wouldn't even assign it common use.  More commonly, you see something along the lines of how the CIA does it:


Government type   


This entry gives the basic form of government. Definitions of the major governmental terms are as follows. (Note that for some countries more than one definition applies.):
Absolute monarchy - a form of government where the monarch rules unhindered, i.e., without any laws, constitution, or legally organized opposition.
Anarchy - a condition of lawlessness or political disorder brought about by the absence of governmental authority.
Authoritarian - a form of government in which state authority is imposed onto many aspects of citizens' lives.
Commonwealth - a nation, state, or other political entity founded on law and united by a compact of the people for the common good.
Communist - a system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single - often authoritarian - party holds power; state controls are imposed with the elimination of private ownership of property or capital while claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people (i.e., a classless society).
Confederacy (Confederation) - a union by compact or treaty between states, provinces, or territories, that creates a central government with limited powers; the constituent entities retain supreme authority over all matters except those delegated to the central government.
Constitutional - a government by or operating under an authoritative document (constitution) that sets forth the system of fundamental laws and principles that determines the nature, functions, and limits of that government.
Constitutional democracy - a form of government in which the sovereign power of the people is spelled out in a governing constitution.
Constitutional monarchy - a system of government in which a monarch is guided by a constitution whereby his/her rights, duties, and responsibilities are spelled out in written law or by custom.
Democracy - a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but which is usually exercised indirectly through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed.
Democratic republic - a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
Dictatorship - a form of government in which a ruler or small clique wield absolute power (not restricted by a constitution or laws).
Ecclesiastical - a government administrated by a church.
Emirate - similar to a monarchy or sultanate, but a government in which the supreme power is in the hands of an emir (the ruler of a Muslim state); the emir may be an absolute overlord or a sovereign with constitutionally limited authority.
Federal (Federation) - a form of government in which sovereign power is formally divided - usually by means of a constitution - between a central authority and a number of constituent regions (states, colonies, or provinces) so that each region retains some management of its internal affairs; differs from a confederacy in that the central government exerts influence directly upon both individuals as well as upon the regional units.
Federal republic - a state in which the powers of the central government are restricted and in which the component parts (states, colonies, or provinces) retain a degree of self-government; ultimate sovereign power rests with the voters who chose their governmental representatives.
Islamic republic - a particular form of government adopted by some Muslim states; although such a state is, in theory, a theocracy, it remains a republic, but its laws are required to be compatible with the laws of Islam.
Maoism - the theory and practice of Marxism-Leninism developed in China by Mao Zedong (Mao Tse-tung), which states that a continuous revolution is necessary if the leaders of a communist state are to keep in touch with the people.
Marxism - the political, economic, and social principles espoused by 19th century economist Karl Marx; he viewed the struggle of workers as a progression of historical forces that would proceed from a class struggle of the proletariat (workers) exploited by capitalists (business owners), to a socialist "dictatorship of the proletariat," to, finally, a classless society - Communism.
Marxism-Leninism - an expanded form of communism developed by Lenin from doctrines of Karl Marx; Lenin saw imperialism as the final stage of capitalism and shifted the focus of workers' struggle from developed to underdeveloped countries.
Monarchy - a government in which the supreme power is lodged in the hands of a monarch who reigns over a state or territory, usually for life and by hereditary right; the monarch may be either a sole absolute ruler or a sovereign - such as a king, queen, or prince - with constitutionally limited authority.
Oligarchy - a government in which control is exercised by a small group of individuals whose authority generally is based on wealth or power.
Parliamentary democracy - a political system in which the legislature (parliament) selects the government - a prime minister, premier, or chancellor along with the cabinet ministers - according to party strength as expressed in elections; by this system, the government acquires a dual responsibility: to the people as well as to the parliament.
Parliamentary government (Cabinet-Parliamentary government) - a government in which members of an executive branch (the cabinet and its leader - a prime minister, premier, or chancellor) are nominated to their positions by a legislature or parliament, and are directly responsible to it; this type of government can be dissolved at will by the parliament (legislature) by means of a no confidence vote or the leader of the cabinet may dissolve the parliament if it can no longer function.
Parliamentary monarchy - a state headed by a monarch who is not actively involved in policy formation or implementation (i.e., the exercise of sovereign powers by a monarch in a ceremonial capacity); true governmental leadership is carried out by a cabinet and its head - a prime minister, premier, or chancellor - who are drawn from a legislature (parliament).
Presidential - a system of government where the executive branch exists separately from a legislature (to which it is generally not accountable).
Republic - a representative democracy in which the people's elected deputies (representatives), not the people themselves, vote on legislation.
Socialism - a government in which the means of planning, producing, and distributing goods is controlled by a central government that theoretically seeks a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor; in actuality, most socialist governments have ended up being no more than dictatorships over workers by a ruling elite.
Sultanate - similar to a monarchy, but a government in which the supreme power is in the hands of a sultan (the head of a Muslim state); the sultan may be an absolute ruler or a sovereign with constitutionally limited authority.
Theocracy - a form of government in which a Deity is recognized as the supreme civil ruler, but the Deity's laws are interpreted by ecclesiastical authorities (bishops, mullahs, etc.); a government subject to religious authority.
Totalitarian - a government that seeks to subordinate the individual to the state by controlling not only all political and economic matters, but also the attitudes, values, and beliefs of its population.


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html



Notice 'Police State' is not even on there.

Like I said, it's just an argument that goes in circles.  Somebody will claim England is Socialist, someone else will claim England is a form of Capitalism (thinking back to two posters in particular, lol).

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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2015, 06:38:37 PM »
LOL then because you say so.  ::) You don't get to dictate what is an important issue to others.
 ::)
It is a pretty serious issue. Whether or not it's a bigger issue than " black on black crime in the black community" (a completely stupid turn of phrase), is really beside the point.
no it is more important b/c it blacks killing blacks has a much more negative impact on the community than cops overpolicing.

no it is not beside the point. Why are blacks not protesting that? what are blacks not coming up with "blacklivesmatter" when its blacks killing blacks. More blacks are killed by other blacks than police by far!!!!

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« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2015, 06:41:47 PM »
Good Lord.   ::)

Take a look at Ferguson.  Those animals would have overrun the entire friggin city without the cops enforcing the law. 

As I've said before, we are one step removed from anarchy.  Law enforcement is one of the primary reasons who maintain that one step.

I'm not  even gonna take issue with the specifics of this statement. Ferguson, is not, "by and large", what most cops do on a daily basis. If you want to make the argument that the EXISTENCE of law enforcement maintains order, then... whatever. But at least 90% (and probably as high as 99%) of what the NYPD does is generating revenue.

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« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2015, 06:44:55 PM »
no it is more important b/c it blacks killing blacks has a much more negative impact on the community than cops overpolicing.
That's not accurate.
Besides, the two problems and their respective solutions aren't even comparable.

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no it is not beside the point. Why are blacks not protesting that? what are blacks not coming up with "blacklivesmatter" when its blacks killing blacks. More blacks are killed by other blacks than police by far!!!!

Yes, it is. The existence of one problem doesn't negate the existence of the other.

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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2015, 06:53:25 PM »
That's not accurate.
Besides, the two problems and their respective solutions aren't even comparable.
its incredibly accurate and youre right it is much easier to change your own behavior than to change someone elses.


Yes, it is. The existence of one problem doesn't negate the existence of the other.
completely agree and I think police abuse should be addressed but again the issues in the black community weigh much heavier on the prosperity of the average member than police actions.

You get a much bigger bang for your buck by addressing the issues in the community than the police....

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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2015, 07:00:38 PM »
its incredibly accurate and youre right it is much easier to change your own behavior than to change someone elses.

completely agree and I think police abuse should be addressed but again the issues in the black community weigh much heavier on the prosperity of the average member than police actions.

You get a much bigger bang for your buck by addressing the issues in the community than the police....

Nah. You're just uninformed. The draconian drug measures in this country and how they impact black and latino men in this country is not just an issue of protesting to change one's own behavior.

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« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2015, 07:08:41 PM »



C'mon Beach, I know you're smarter than that.  The issue at hand is 'how' they are fighting the crime.


No, that is not a standard definition, it's a definition.  And, I wouldn't even assign it common use.  More commonly, you see something along the lines of how the CIA does it:


Government type   


This entry gives the basic form of government. Definitions of the major governmental terms are as follows. (Note that for some countries more than one definition applies.):
Absolute monarchy - a form of government where the monarch rules unhindered, i.e., without any laws, constitution, or legally organized opposition.
Anarchy - a condition of lawlessness or political disorder brought about by the absence of governmental authority.
Authoritarian - a form of government in which state authority is imposed onto many aspects of citizens' lives.
Commonwealth - a nation, state, or other political entity founded on law and united by a compact of the people for the common good.
Communist - a system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single - often authoritarian - party holds power; state controls are imposed with the elimination of private ownership of property or capital while claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people (i.e., a classless society).
Confederacy (Confederation) - a union by compact or treaty between states, provinces, or territories, that creates a central government with limited powers; the constituent entities retain supreme authority over all matters except those delegated to the central government.
Constitutional - a government by or operating under an authoritative document (constitution) that sets forth the system of fundamental laws and principles that determines the nature, functions, and limits of that government.
Constitutional democracy - a form of government in which the sovereign power of the people is spelled out in a governing constitution.
Constitutional monarchy - a system of government in which a monarch is guided by a constitution whereby his/her rights, duties, and responsibilities are spelled out in written law or by custom.
Democracy - a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but which is usually exercised indirectly through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed.
Democratic republic - a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
Dictatorship - a form of government in which a ruler or small clique wield absolute power (not restricted by a constitution or laws).
Ecclesiastical - a government administrated by a church.
Emirate - similar to a monarchy or sultanate, but a government in which the supreme power is in the hands of an emir (the ruler of a Muslim state); the emir may be an absolute overlord or a sovereign with constitutionally limited authority.
Federal (Federation) - a form of government in which sovereign power is formally divided - usually by means of a constitution - between a central authority and a number of constituent regions (states, colonies, or provinces) so that each region retains some management of its internal affairs; differs from a confederacy in that the central government exerts influence directly upon both individuals as well as upon the regional units.
Federal republic - a state in which the powers of the central government are restricted and in which the component parts (states, colonies, or provinces) retain a degree of self-government; ultimate sovereign power rests with the voters who chose their governmental representatives.
Islamic republic - a particular form of government adopted by some Muslim states; although such a state is, in theory, a theocracy, it remains a republic, but its laws are required to be compatible with the laws of Islam.
Maoism - the theory and practice of Marxism-Leninism developed in China by Mao Zedong (Mao Tse-tung), which states that a continuous revolution is necessary if the leaders of a communist state are to keep in touch with the people.
Marxism - the political, economic, and social principles espoused by 19th century economist Karl Marx; he viewed the struggle of workers as a progression of historical forces that would proceed from a class struggle of the proletariat (workers) exploited by capitalists (business owners), to a socialist "dictatorship of the proletariat," to, finally, a classless society - Communism.
Marxism-Leninism - an expanded form of communism developed by Lenin from doctrines of Karl Marx; Lenin saw imperialism as the final stage of capitalism and shifted the focus of workers' struggle from developed to underdeveloped countries.
Monarchy - a government in which the supreme power is lodged in the hands of a monarch who reigns over a state or territory, usually for life and by hereditary right; the monarch may be either a sole absolute ruler or a sovereign - such as a king, queen, or prince - with constitutionally limited authority.
Oligarchy - a government in which control is exercised by a small group of individuals whose authority generally is based on wealth or power.
Parliamentary democracy - a political system in which the legislature (parliament) selects the government - a prime minister, premier, or chancellor along with the cabinet ministers - according to party strength as expressed in elections; by this system, the government acquires a dual responsibility: to the people as well as to the parliament.
Parliamentary government (Cabinet-Parliamentary government) - a government in which members of an executive branch (the cabinet and its leader - a prime minister, premier, or chancellor) are nominated to their positions by a legislature or parliament, and are directly responsible to it; this type of government can be dissolved at will by the parliament (legislature) by means of a no confidence vote or the leader of the cabinet may dissolve the parliament if it can no longer function.
Parliamentary monarchy - a state headed by a monarch who is not actively involved in policy formation or implementation (i.e., the exercise of sovereign powers by a monarch in a ceremonial capacity); true governmental leadership is carried out by a cabinet and its head - a prime minister, premier, or chancellor - who are drawn from a legislature (parliament).
Presidential - a system of government where the executive branch exists separately from a legislature (to which it is generally not accountable).
Republic - a representative democracy in which the people's elected deputies (representatives), not the people themselves, vote on legislation.
Socialism - a government in which the means of planning, producing, and distributing goods is controlled by a central government that theoretically seeks a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor; in actuality, most socialist governments have ended up being no more than dictatorships over workers by a ruling elite.
Sultanate - similar to a monarchy, but a government in which the supreme power is in the hands of a sultan (the head of a Muslim state); the sultan may be an absolute ruler or a sovereign with constitutionally limited authority.
Theocracy - a form of government in which a Deity is recognized as the supreme civil ruler, but the Deity's laws are interpreted by ecclesiastical authorities (bishops, mullahs, etc.); a government subject to religious authority.
Totalitarian - a government that seeks to subordinate the individual to the state by controlling not only all political and economic matters, but also the attitudes, values, and beliefs of its population.


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html



Notice 'Police State' is not even on there.

Like I said, it's just an argument that goes in circles.  Somebody will claim England is Socialist, someone else will claim England is a form of Capitalism (thinking back to two posters in particular, lol).

What about the "how" they fight crime in NYC?  They have been doing it pretty well.  I understand there are abuses, but those are the exception.  Also, most of their crime fighting is done in high crime areas, which are places where people are breaking the law.

How is the dictionary definition not standard?  

I wouldn't use the CIA as an example, because they only deal with foreign governments/issues.