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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2015, 07:39:20 AM »
Huh, interesting.  I've never really experienced the notion of submission to be hidden. 

Yes, Islam preaches peace, but Islam literally means "submission" while a Muslim is "one who submits".

Submission to God is the same as Christians "accepting Christ" into their lives.  The main difference is cultural vs. religion. 

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2015, 07:39:51 AM »
I'm into femdom...may be being a Muslim is not bad afterall.


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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2015, 07:42:32 AM »
Submission to God is the same as Christians "accepting Christ" into their lives.  The main difference is cultural vs. religion.  

Absolutely there is a similarity there.  Christians submit to the will of God and Muslims to the will of Allah.  

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2015, 07:42:43 AM »
Submission to God is the same as Christians "accepting Christ" into their lives.  The main difference is cultural vs. religion. 

Even "submission" might be a generous translation of the word. For non-muslims, the more proper term might be "subjugation."

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2015, 07:46:29 AM »
Even "submission" might be a generous translation of the word. For non-muslims, the more proper term might be "subjugation."

Their submission to god is their biggest weakness which is being exploited by the wealthy in their region.  Nothing in this world is more dangerous than a dirt poor oppressed religious zealout.  They have nothing in this world other than their faith in God.  You threaten to take that away from them and they'll have nothing so they'll do whatever it takes to keep it.  Guys like Bin Laden took advantage of it.  Most of these "upper leaders" in ISIS, Al Quessidilla, Hamas etc... know that and they manipulate these people into doing their dirty work.  Enough so they can convince them to blow themselves up in fear of living without God.

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2015, 08:02:02 AM »



lol - not a fucking chance she said that...  ;D


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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2015, 08:04:42 AM »
Multiculturalism has failed, says French president


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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2015, 08:06:24 AM »
Cameron: State multiculturalism has failed


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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2015, 08:09:01 AM »
Cameron: State multiculturalism has failed



Any yet none of them do ANYTHING to stop it. "It's dead", they all declare. But it's not going anywhere either.

When one of those pencilnecks pipes up with another "MC is dead" comment, the next fucking question had better be, "OK, then what are you going to do about it? Just wish really hard that it gets better?"

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2015, 08:15:48 AM »
Cameron: State multiculturalism has failed



He also said:

David Cameron has announced plans to encourage investment in the UK by Muslim countries, saying he wants to make London “one of the greatest centres for Islamic finance anywhere in the world”.
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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2015, 09:00:07 AM »
He also said:

David Cameron has announced plans to encourage investment in the UK by Muslim countries, saying he wants to make London “one of the greatest centres for Islamic finance anywhere in the world”.

Money defies any logical thinking.  Root of all evil indeed.

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2015, 09:09:05 AM »
I see a future of gun stores at every corner in Europe. I will buy some. I already have a 70 series Landcruiser, i just need the machine gun:



See the irony in that?

The gunner in the red tank top is all the proof we need to know that handling a machine gun is a lousy way to build arm mass.

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2015, 09:11:49 AM »
People don't realize that they are being manipulated based on their religion.  Just how Americans are conned by patriotism to join the military and murder, muslims are conned by their countries elite via religion to go and murder.  Everyone has a weakness and the rich and elite will exploit it to have you do their dirty work.

You nailed it.  The same applies to EVERY religion.  More people are slowly coming to realize these things, and that's a good thing.

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2015, 09:38:54 AM »

lol - not a fucking chance she said that...  ;D


Fucking right she did. Muslim sympathizing piece of shit.


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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2015, 09:55:53 AM »
Absolutely there is a similarity there.  Christians submit to the will of God and Muslims to the will of Allah.  

Lol you do know God is Allah. They are the same, Arab Christians and Jews also call God Allah. The only diffrence is Christians believe God had a son(lol and they still claim to be monothiest) and Muslims say God is alone and one without partners.


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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2015, 10:05:25 AM »
Lol you do know God is Allah. They are the same, Arab Christians and Jews also call God Allah. The only diffrence is Christians believe God had a son(lol and they still claim to be monothiest) and Muslims say God is alone and one without partners.



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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2015, 10:07:39 AM »
Lol you do know God is Allah. They are the same, Arab Christians and Jews also call God Allah. The only diffrence is Christians believe God had a son(lol and they still claim to be monothiest) and Muslims say God is alone and one without partners.



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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2015, 10:10:12 AM »
Mohammed was a pedo, a pervert, a pos, and shit and puke be upon him. 

yes, but heard he was strong enough to open water bottles.

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2015, 10:12:24 AM »
yes, but heard he was strong enough to open water bottles.


Cant have everything in life   :D

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2015, 10:18:58 AM »
Mohammed was a pedo, a pervert, a pos, and shit and puke be upon him. 

"And the servants of the Most Merciful(Allah) are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace" - Quran

 

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2015, 10:19:08 AM »
Lol you do know God is Allah. They are the same, Arab Christians and Jews also call God Allah. The only diffrence is Christians believe God had a son(lol and they still claim to be monothiest) and Muslims say God is alone and one without partners.



Quick and dirty for you....thanks!!

Muslims and Christians do not pray to the same God. 

Yes, Muslims recognize Christ as prophet, but they also claim him as the coming Messiah that will come to destroy the cross of Christianity.  Muslims do not believe in the Christian Trinity of God (Father, Son and Spirit).  They fully deny the divinity of Christ and therefore deny the full essence of the Christian God.  Muslims pray to Allah who has no partners.   Jews and the first Christians identified Christ as a prophet, but also a teacher, the Messiah, the Son of God and risen Lord.  Christians identify Jesus Christ as fully man and fully God.....coined under the term the hypostatic union. 

Muslims also claim that prophet Abraham, prophet Moses, prophet Jesus were all Muslim and worshipped Allah(Allah....Elah....Elohim. ..some bridge the gap this way).   

Christ said that before Abraham was I AM.  I AM is the eternal name of God derived from YHWH.....Yahweh.....Jeho vah. 

Not the same.


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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2015, 10:48:00 AM »
Quick and dirty for you....thanks!!


I think he wasn't saying they are the same in respects to that but more to the fact that it's God as they view it.  How many different varations of God are worshipped worldwide?  Even Christians fucked up with the whole Joseph Smith thing creating mormonism.

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2015, 10:54:34 AM »
I think he wasn't saying they are the same in respects to that but more to the fact that it's God as they view it.  How many different varations of God are worshipped worldwide?  Even Christians fucked up with the whole Joseph Smith thing creating mormonism.

With respect, he appeared to be using the beginning of argumentation that many Muslims use.  I've been down this path several times LOL.

Joseph Smith stepped out on his own and founded mormonism.  That's an entirely different topic.

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Re: Islamic cleric authors surprisingly honest oped about Islam
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2015, 10:55:10 AM »
"And the servants of the Most Merciful(Allah) are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace" - Quran

 

I have taken large shits after taco bell that have looked and smelled better than the average mooooooooooooooooooooooo oslim