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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2015, 12:13:26 PM »
igf-1 is linked to most cancers, probly a good thing its almost impossible for the vast majority of us to use ( actual igf...not the lr versions...)

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2015, 01:02:52 PM »
You know about the prostate it is also a paradox. Trt can maybe cause at long term Prostate Cancer dye to elevated DHT.
Now the thing is that most older man are having a higher risk than the younger ones, strange because when man become older the test level (and thus DHT) are naturally lowering.

So older people with low Test in the blood will still have more risk.
It is a paradox...

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2015, 01:36:43 PM »
I will cycle off as I don't want to ruin my health but I feel so good right now it is hard to describe...

As for training twice a day, you just do what you normally would but split it in halves. I read most of Dr Squat's (Fred Hatfield) books when I was younger and it is basically the fundation of my training. Yes, there is weight training, plyos, HIIT etc.

I do something similar to Evander Holleyfield when he was prepping for a big fight:

http://www.sportsci.org/news/news9709/hatfield.html

Sprinters tend to work out two or three times a day too... I just wake up at 5, go to the gym, get home at 6h30, drop the kids to school, workout again at lunch times and play sports or video games in the evening. Fuck the wife, go to bed rinse, lather repeat :-)






Hey, good for you!...I have always thought that the docs should prescribe mild steroids to ALL men over 50 who ask for it, and all men who have low test no matter what the age.....I think doctors are not too well-versed in wellness in aging men.....no matter how old you are, you want to continue to be able to be phyiscal, bang chicks, and be active.....instead, doctors like to watch us grow old and deny us the things that could make our quality of life so much better as we go into our twilight years

i would love to go on steroids as well but don't have the balls to ask my doctors because they'll probably freak out and say no

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2015, 04:23:47 PM »
Hey, good for you!...I have always thought that the docs should prescribe mild steroids to ALL men over 50 who ask for it, and all men who have low test no matter what the age.....I think doctors are not too well-versed in wellness in aging men.....no matter how old you are, you want to continue to be able to be phyiscal, bang chicks, and be active.....instead, doctors like to watch us grow old and deny us the things that could make our quality of life so much better as we go into our twilight years

i would love to go on steroids as well but don't have the balls to ask my doctors because they'll probably freak out and say no

Yup! Very little is done to enhance quality of life or prevention. Not enough money to be made I guess...

I have a theory that age related depression, especially around andropause, kills a lot of person by robbing them of their will to live . Only a terrible hypothesis at best but case studies done with outliers of longevity seem to support it: they seem so happy, busy and enjoying life. ( http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10902-008-9127-0#page-1

Since a small amount of hormones reverse that process (age related depression), the benefits look rather good.

I found a doc willing to prescribe Sustanon by asking around. Finally found one while playing golf. It did cost me two beers at a strip joint :-)

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2015, 06:07:24 AM »
cialis also lowers blood pressure, another beneficial reason to take on cycle

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2015, 07:02:34 AM »
You know about the prostate it is also a paradox. Trt can maybe cause at long term Prostate Cancer dye to elevated DHT.
Now the thing is that most older man are having a higher risk than the younger ones, strange because when man become older the test level (and thus DHT) are naturally lowering.

So older people with low Test in the blood will still have more risk.
It is a paradox...
prostate issues actually have nothing to do with DHT alone.
its actually elevated ESTROGEN thats the main culprit here. elevated DHT in CONJUNCTION with elevated ESTROGEN is even worse.

in older and especially obese men estrogen is elevated... DHT might be elevated too (but im not too sure on that) because more testosterone is aromatized into estrogen and more testosterone might be reduced into DHT as we age (again im not too sure on that).

if estrogen is kept low there will be most likely no prostate issues from DHT or other strong androgens...


cialis also lowers blood pressure, another beneficial reason to take on cycle

good point, i think in the US cialis is actually prescribed at a low dose against high blood pressure i think. and also for prostate issues, just 5mg a day.

thats also enough to give all the sex benefits

btw the actual cost of synthesizing cialis is a fucking joke. its even cheaper than testosterone raws.
cialis in pill form from the pharmacy is such a fucking ripoff its unbelievable, if you cant get it prescribed or have to pay a part of it...

considering the fact that you can get all the benefits with just 30-40mg a week, thats less than 2 grams a year if you were to use it nonstop

100g would last you a lifetime. now look at alibaba how much that costs. less than 200$ :D

now think about how many TENS OF THOUSANDS OF $ you would pay from the pharmacy. such a fking joke.

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2015, 05:56:37 AM »
prostate issues actually have nothing to do with DHT alone.
its actually elevated ESTROGEN thats the main culprit here. elevated DHT in CONJUNCTION with elevated ESTROGEN is even worse.

in older and especially obese men estrogen is elevated... DHT might be elevated too (but im not too sure on that) because more testosterone is aromatized into estrogen and more testosterone might be reduced into DHT as we age (again im not too sure on that).

if estrogen is kept low there will be most likely no prostate issues from DHT or other strong androgens...


good point, i think in the US cialis is actually prescribed at a low dose against high blood pressure i think. and also for prostate issues, just 5mg a day.

thats also enough to give all the sex benefits

btw the actual cost of synthesizing cialis is a fucking joke. its even cheaper than testosterone raws.
cialis in pill form from the pharmacy is such a fucking ripoff its unbelievable, if you cant get it prescribed or have to pay a part of it...

considering the fact that you can get all the benefits with just 30-40mg a week, thats less than 2 grams a year if you were to use it nonstop

100g would last you a lifetime. now look at alibaba how much that costs. less than 200$ :D

now think about how many TENS OF THOUSANDS OF $ you would pay from the pharmacy. such a fking joke.

Really not sure about the link between estrogen prostate cancer but it is possible. Prostate cancer seems to be more prevalent in obese person so it does make sense.

I had no idea about tadalafil and blood pressure but it seems to be very efficient.... It even increases exercise capacity in some people...

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa050010

As for the prostate issue, again, makes sense but the only articles I could find were reducing of symptoms when having an inflammed prostate. So in any case, it does reduce inflammation which is a good thing...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022534706030710

I'll tell the wifey to get ready because I'm getting "in" on that for sure!

Thanks Jizmo

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2015, 07:50:49 AM »
prostate issues actually have nothing to do with DHT alone.
its actually elevated ESTROGEN thats the main culprit here. elevated DHT in CONJUNCTION with elevated ESTROGEN is even worse.

in older and especially obese men estrogen is elevated... DHT might be elevated too (but im not too sure on that) because more testosterone is aromatized into estrogen and more testosterone might be reduced into DHT as we age (again im not too sure on that).

if estrogen is kept low there will be most likely no prostate issues from DHT or other strong androgens...


good point, i think in the US cialis is actually prescribed at a low dose against high blood pressure i think. and also for prostate issues, just 5mg a day.

thats also enough to give all the sex benefits

btw the actual cost of synthesizing cialis is a fucking joke. its even cheaper than testosterone raws.
cialis in pill form from the pharmacy is such a fucking ripoff its unbelievable, if you cant get it prescribed or have to pay a part of it...

considering the fact that you can get all the benefits with just 30-40mg a week, thats less than 2 grams a year if you were to use it nonstop

100g would last you a lifetime. now look at alibaba how much that costs. less than 200$ :D

now think about how many TENS OF THOUSANDS OF $ you would pay from the pharmacy. such a fking joke.


What about the stories of people who have problems doing pipi when using winstrol only?

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2015, 09:05:02 AM »

What about the stories of people who have problems doing pipi when using winstrol only?
anyone who does winstrol only cycles is retarded to begin with, so i dont give a fuck about their placebo pipi problems :D

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2015, 09:07:44 AM »
Winstrol only is for women

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Re: New to the dark side... I will never go back!
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2015, 08:30:43 AM »
Winstrol only is for women

Yes, it is just a bad steroid. Bad for liver (17-c), strong conversion to DHT, tendons issues, seems to be worst for cholesterol etc... But problems with "pipi" is not one of them.