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Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« on: January 11, 2015, 03:54:27 AM »

This guy is hated in the UK for speaking common sense.


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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 04:03:04 AM »
This guy is hated in the UK for speaking common sense.



Makes sense, hate the dude who hates the haters. Hope that works out for ya, mates.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 06:42:32 AM »
He's far from hated,  minorities and students try to label him as a racist while adults and law abiding Muslims see total sense in what he's saying.  He could quite easily be the next priminister but and its a big but, short of an immigration policy, I don't thing he has anything else.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 06:46:48 AM »
most europeans are peaceful leftists, you cant do anything. Fucking sheeps will get what they deserve.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 07:45:47 AM »
Not for nothing but... COME ON! "Civilized societies"? The very same societies that decided to bomb Middle Eastern countries back to the Bronze Age because of oil are now calling themselves "civilized"?

It delusion/lunacy at its best.

I have no love for terrorism, but we, as a nation, have to face reality and take ownership of some of the blame for people in those very same countries we have been bombing (on and off) for the past 20 years becoming radicalized beyond belief.

They certainly didn't pop up from out of nowhere. We helped create the monster.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 08:01:02 AM »
most europeans are peaceful leftists, you cant do anything. Fucking sheeps will get what they deserve.


His party are growing in popularity, there's a small chance they could form a coalition with the torys in the next ellection

France has 25% vote for a far right party... Italy has similar leanings

You have never left the states, how would you know?

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 08:06:32 AM »
Not for nothing but... COME ON! "Civilized societies"? The very same societies that decided to bomb Middle Eastern countries back to the Bronze Age because of oil are now calling themselves "civilized"?

It delusion/lunacy at its best.

I have no love for terrorism, but we, as a nation, have to face reality and take ownership of some of the blame for people in those very same countries we have been bombing (on and off) for the past 20 years becoming radicalized beyond belief.

They certainly didn't pop up from out of nowhere. We helped create the monster.

I totally agree with you, the west (primarily US/UK) has meddled in the affairs of the middle east for decades, to the point that people there cant remember what normality looks like.

That meddling is the cause of the problem

Terrorist acts are a symptom of that problem. There is a deep seated hatred toward the west amongst some muslims and people in the middle east.

With that said, having Terrorist acts occur on our doorstep, in Europe, with the frequency that they do, is not only a symptom of this meddling but also due to the EU's open door policy in immigration.

If we had strict immigration policies, secure borders across europe, there would be significantly less terrorist events occurring on our doorstep, regardless of whether the west was meddling in the middle eat or not. Uncontrolled mass immigration is a cause of these terrorist events happening here, because it allows both existing terrorists to move freely into countries and it allows large populations of people who have a higher propensity to be radicalized to grow within western countries. If there were no muslims in France, the chances of these events happening would be much reduced.

Labour opened the flood gates in the UK, and we have already experienced our terrorist events on our doorstep.

Labour along with the Lib-Dems can be strung up by the balls as well!


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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2015, 08:10:20 AM »

His party are growing in popularity, there's a small chance they could form a coalition with the torys in the next ellection

France has 25% vote for a far right party... Italy has similar leanings

You have never left the states, how would you know?
the fuck are you talking about, i m born french and left for canada 6 years ago... If at the time i believed something would change, i wouldnt have left. Too bad i made up my mind and realized it would only get worse over time. And i was right. Europeans are scared sheeps whoa re too affraid to defend themselves because they dont want to be labeled as nazis, they hate themselves and want to disapear flooded by third world immigrants. You cant help someone who doesnt want to be helped.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 08:14:43 AM »
With regard to civilized lands such as the UK, the US and all of Europe:

There will never be a backlash until they find their backbone.


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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 08:16:04 AM »

His party are growing in popularity, there's a small chance they could form a coalition with the torys in the next ellection

France has 25% vote for a far right party... Italy has similar leanings

You have never left the states, how would you know?

The problem is that far right parties popularity is growing at a rate slower than the immigrant populations.

In France, European french are already a minority within the under 30 population. This means by 2050 when these under 30 population have grown up, european French will be a minority in their own country. The UK is following closely behind with similar statistics.

The cat is out of the bag, it will probably take another decade before a far right wing party will gain popularity, but by that time, this under 30 population will start to affect the voting stats, essentially the support will rise for the far right, it will peak before it can get into power, and then the majority immigrant population will dilute their votes, by supporting other parties, so they never get in.

Once immigrant populations reach a significant voting size, the wheels will fall off Europe completely!

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2015, 08:16:51 AM »
Your a frog?... Id never have guessed...

Do you not think that 25% will grow?, by the way all western countries have the same policies... Just swap mexicants with Arabs in the states etc etc

Canada is too cold for that kinda shit

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2015, 08:18:35 AM »
I totally agree with you, the west (primarily US/UK) has meddled in the affairs of the middle east for decades, to the point that people there cant remember what normality looks like.

That meddling is the cause of the problem

Terrorist acts are a symptom of that problem. There is a deep seated hatred toward the west amongst some muslims and people in the middle east.

With that said, having Terrorist acts occur on our doorstep, in Europe, with the frequency that they do, is not only a symptom of this meddling but also due to the EU's open door policy in immigration.

If we had strict immigration policies, secure borders across europe, there would be significantly less terrorist events occurring on our doorstep, regardless of whether the west was meddling in the middle eat or not. Uncontrolled mass immigration is a cause of these terrorist events happening here, because it allows both existing terrorists to move freely into countries and it allows large populations of people who have a higher propensity to be radicalized to grow within western countries. If there were no muslims in France, the chances of these events happening would be much reduced.

Labour opened the flood gates in the UK, and we have already experienced our terrorist events on our doorstep.

Labour along with the Lib-Dems can be strung up by the balls as well!



Ah, so no meddling and all is well with the peaceful Muslims.

Got it.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2015, 08:20:00 AM »
The problem is that far right parties popularity is growing at a rate slower than the immigrant populations.

In France, European french are already a minority within the under 30 population. This means by 2050 when these under 30 population have grown up, european French will be a minority in their own country. The UK is following closely behind with similar statistics.

The cat is out of the bag, it will probably take another decade before a far right wing party will gain popularity, but by that time, this under 30 population will start to affect the voting stats, essentially the support will rise for the far right, it will peak before it can get into power, and then the majority immigrant population will dilute their votes, by supporting other parties, so they never get in.

Once immigrant populations reach a significant voting size, the wheels will fall off Europe completely!



That's a scary scenario... I don't see a practical solution either...

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2015, 08:20:47 AM »
Ah, so no meddling and all is well with the peaceful Muslims.

Got it.

No offense, but that's not what I said.

What I said was that if we had not meddled and bombed the shit out of them for decades, and kept our borders secure and our immigration in check, we would not be dealing with this shit today. Simple as that.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2015, 08:26:29 AM »

That's a scary scenario... I don't see a practical solution either...

No I don't see a solution either, you can already see, the political bias among immigrants in most European countries, they never vote for conservatives, they always vote for the liberals or the left, whilst their own culture is extremely conservative and discriminatory. Kind of ironic isn't it.

Canada will get it as well, they are bringing in lots of Somalians and other 3rd world turds, they have more space and are not so far down the line. Perhaps they have more chance of turning shit around, but I doubt it. Australia is in the same boat too.


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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2015, 08:29:21 AM »
No offense, but that's not what I said.

What I said was that if we had not meddled and bombed the shit out of them for decades, and kept our borders secure and our immigration in check, we would not be dealing with this shit today. Simple as that.

"Terrorist acts are a symptom of the problem," the problem being meddling. So it would follow, pre-meddling = zero terrorism. Might wanna let them know.

Of course, your types (no offense) have a very liberal definition of meddling.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2015, 08:33:18 AM »
"Terrorist acts are a symptom of the problem," the problem being meddling. So it would follow, pre-meddling = zero terrorism. Might wanna let them know.

Of course, your types (no offense) have a very liberal definition of meddling.

Ok, tell me what "type" I am.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2015, 08:33:52 AM »

That's a scary scenario... I don't see a practical solution either...

That's fine. Your future Muslim-France/England can terrorize each other and our Mexican-America until Jebus does his encore.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2015, 08:35:17 AM »
"Terrorist acts are a symptom of the problem," the problem being meddling. So it would follow, pre-meddling = zero terrorism. Might wanna let them know.

Of course, your types (no offense) have a very liberal definition of meddling.


De stabslising, overthrowing governments and standing by isreal is some big time meddling...

The US were hell bent on overthrowing Iran not too long ago, now suddenly they are 'good' guys...


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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2015, 08:37:34 AM »
Ok, tell me what "type" I am.

Seriously?

Apologist. Why you playing dumb?

All due respect.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2015, 08:38:01 AM »

De stabslising, overthrowing governments and standing by isreal is some big time meddling...

The US were hell bent on overthrowing Iran not too long ago, now suddenly they are 'good' guys...


Politics makes for strange bedfellows, etc.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2015, 08:40:39 AM »

De stabslising, overthrowing governments and standing by isreal is some big time meddling...

The US were hell bent on overthrowing Iran not too long ago, now suddenly they are 'good' guys...



Ah, knew it was coming. There's the meddling. Our fault, got it.

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2015, 08:47:49 AM »
"Terrorist acts are a symptom of the problem," the problem being meddling. So it would follow, pre-meddling = zero terrorism. Might wanna let them know.

Of course, your types (no offense) have a very liberal definition of meddling.

So it would follow, pre-meddling = zero terrorism. You made that statement not me.

Clearly I can see your "type" is one that struggles with reading and comprehending things. Quite surprising for someone with so many posts, but then perhaps that explains something in itself.

What I did say was that if we had secure borders, and a tight immigration policy, we would not have to deal with terrorist events on our doorstep, or at least not to the frequency that they have been occurring.

Equally so, if for the past 50 years the west had not waged so many wars in the middle east, the potential for anger and animosity towards the US and UK would be much reduced and probably lead to less radicalization and terrorist events. If this was not true, then why have so many terrorist attacks been carried out in retribution for Western interventions in middle eastern countries ??????




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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2015, 08:48:23 AM »

Ah, knew it was coming. There's the meddling. Our fault, got it.

Fuck off ( no offence ).... Its all part of the big picture, we act in our intrests and always have done, does it make killing innocents, chopping off heads and hands of peace justified? Of course not...

You could wipe the lot of them off the planet for all I care, you can't sugar coat history tho

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Re: Nigel Farage speaking about Paris on Fox news
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2015, 08:50:16 AM »
Seriously?

Apologist. Why you playing dumb?

All due respect.

LOL ;D

Apologist ::)

Stating realities of a situation does not make me an apologist, but clearly with your limited reading abilities, its easy for you to make such a mistake. No Offense!