Pre contest cycle

[gainscity]

Think tho bros are being a bit harsh here...210 and lean at 19 isn't to be sniffed at.. Altho I don't see the point in doing endless shows, every showing should be an improvement, take a couple of years off and actualy come in and try to win, instead of just turning up

If you havnt made significant progress by then this isn't for you, just train for fun, use low doses and keep healthy, if you havnt got 20"arms after a few yr you will never have them for example...

Mazfit, I know several ex nabba jnr universe/europe competitors that never went near slin at that point in there careers, were already monsters in the making with lush responses to gear

I came in at 170lbs first show lean but also very very stringy and small, I was small at that show then I improved my stage weight by 30lbs and even leaner that was in a year so my improvements have been drastic. Last year I competed a lot and looked better each show which matters to me the most but I do agree time off to gain more size is a good idea but I love the sport and going on stage is something I love doing, it hypes me up lol

[mazrim]

sorry man but the OP looks much thicker than you from the back

also wtf @ all the guys saying "THAT MUCH GEAR" lol
a bit above 1g is nothing

and everyone hating here on how the OP is small as fuck, youve probably never been even close to his BF

cut to 6% and see how much of your "weight" is left, lol

not talking to anyone specifically but i love it when fat fucks on steroid.com are hating on someone whos 170lbs and shredded to the bone lol
"USING STEROIDS TO BE 170 LBS HURR DURR KILL YOURSELF"

then you ask them to post pics and theyre like 250lbs and 25% bf and think theyre fucking huge and will be 230lbs shredded if they cut
when they actually wouldnt even be a soaking wet 170lbs on stage

Agree.

[BigRo]

4gms plus GH and Insulin for this mens fitness competitor? I am growing on 2-2.5gms no GH or slin.

[gainscity]

4gms plus GH and Insulin for this mens fitness competitor? I am growing on 2-2.5gms no GH or slin.

Ik no way would I need anywhere near 4g 1g or a little over usually hits the spot for me.

[kevthekid]

Ik no way would I need anywhere near 4g 1g or a little over usually hits the spot for me.

I think since many of the guys on this forum are older than you and I, they probably use more since their bodies have gotten used to it. I'm 19 and grow like crazy on just a gram

[gainscity]

I think since many of the guys on this forum are older than you and I, they probably use more since their bodies have gotten used to it. I'm 19 and grow like crazy on just a gram

I know but 4g is A LOT the top ifbb pros are somewhere between 4-6g

[Jizmo]

I know but 4g is A LOT the top ifbb pros are somewhere between 4-6g

a day



no but seriously, 4g is NOTHING in the pro ranks
4g testosterone as a base maybe, lol.
4-6g "top ifbb pros" my ass.

amateurs run 4g for their shows.

inb4 another retarded "but lee priest only took some deca and a few winny tabs for his shows"-discussion

[local hero]

a day



no but seriously, 4g is NOTHING in the pro ranks
4g testosterone as a base maybe, lol.
4-6g "top ifbb pros" my ass.

amateurs run 4g for their shows.

inb4 another retarded "but lee priest only took some deca and a few winny tabs for his shows"-discussion

But, but when lee preist stayed with Paul dillet they made a shot of winny up and neither of them touched it for a week.....

[mazfit]

I know but 4g is A LOT the top ifbb pros are somewhere between 4-6g

lol at pros are on 4-6g hahahahaha

[gainscity]

lol at pros are on 4-6g hahahahaha

Then what's their doses looking like?

[oni]

Then what's their doses looking like?

I know a powerlifter that runs:

3.5g test
1.5g mast
700 tren
700npp
200mg dbol/day
150mg winstrol/day

I think that is it anyway. I remember calculating it all up and it was 9g total though

[Thong Maniac]

I know a powerlifter that runs:

3.5g test
1.5g mast
700 tren
700npp
200mg dbol/day
150mg winstrol/day

I think that is it anyway. I remember calculating it all up and it was 9g total though

Probably also says that he gets bloodwork done...
And obviously results are fucked up entirely...

That is insane that the body can handle that

[heenok]

Im curious about the effects of running such a high dose of mast ?

Just on the prostate it seems crazy

[mazfit]

Phill heath is on 4-6g hahaha very very funny

made me spit my juice out at work.

deluded some people

bostin loyd looks average.........hes on 14g

[oni]

Im curious about the effects of running such a high dose of mast ?

Just on the prostate it seems crazy

Ability for a larger water shed and faster recomp for 24h weigh ins

[heenok]

I dont think pros are using 10 grams of gear. Some are i guess but the majority is around less than 5 grams which is already an absurd amount.
You guys underestimate genetic as well as the power of slin and GH. You dont need nearly as much gear as you think when on slin and GH.

The monsters are created by :

1) GENETICS
2) GEAR + SLIN + GH combo
3) FOOD AND TRAINING

Genetics being the most important factor by FAR

[mazfit]

you are deluded sir.

5 grams of gear.....i know gym rats on 5 grams

those with good genetics can win there pro card on 4-8 grams...

to be a competative BB 5 grams IS NO WHERE NEAR the dose needed.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHEN I SAY - after genetic response to sreroids

IT IS ALLLLLLLL DRUGS - THE MORE YOU CAN TAKE WITHOUT GETTING ILL THE BETTER

this is COMPETATIVE PRO BB

not amatures who look good

COMPETATIVE PRO BB IS ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DRUGS

ALL THE WAY TO THE HILL AND BACK

This isnt a debate or an argument this is absolute fact.

[BigRo]

how have you come across your knowledge on this subject? ^

have you spoken directly to many honest pros?

[gainscity]

Phill heath is on 4-6g hahaha very very funny

made me spit my juice out at work.

deluded some people

bostin loyd looks average.........hes on 14g

Bostin loyd is the biggest dumbass in the industry lol in no way are pros with good genetics on 14 grams a week that ridiculous

[gainscity]

Obviously with pros they all do it different some megadose and others don't as much but 4-6 grams of gear is still a shit ton no doubt.. if I went on that much gear how the fuck would that even feel lol maybe my next cycle will be 1 gram tren, 1 gram test, 1 gram mast, 700mg winny, 700mg anadrol. LOL JK I don't think a physique competitor needs that much.. 2 grams at the most for physique probably?

[oni]

how have you come across your knowledge on this subject? ^

have you spoken directly to many honest pros?

How big are you compared to the top pros if you're growing on ~2g?
You look big but all big people look the same to me lol.

[pestosterone]

If that's him in his avatar he's a goddamn monster big ro is huge I listen to his posts because of his avatar

[mazfit]

how have you come across your knowledge on this subject? ^

have you spoken directly to many honest pros?

if you grow on 2g fair play

i know because i see what good amatures a few pros buy per month for themselves.

what does 4g feel like, well im on 5g now and not so much different from 2.

1g tren
2.5g test
1.5g deca
just started 1g equpoise because i got it free - so il be on 6
Peptides

infact i got it all for free - do u think i have the money to run that much if i didnt get it for free the last 2 months

if i didnt i probably wouldnt run that much.

this is the highest ive ran and i havent come off for 2 years.

so what makes you think phill heath, infact any competative pro isnt on higher?



if big ro is on 2g he has incredible genetics.  

if you kids want to continue believing pros are on no more then 5 grams then continue.

[Jizmo]

if you homebrewed youd pay less a month for 5g than the average smoker pays for his cigarettes

i bet you pros ALL know some guy who runs a lab or got a hookup

[Halki]

Btw

What's the longest time were You Guys running Masteron?