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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2015, 12:22:00 PM »
And as I explained to you over and over: you ate carbs and lost body fat, not because you ate carbs, but because you exercised your ass off. Keto type diet is the only diet that you will lose body fat with out exercise. Do any other diet without exercise, and you will lose zero body fat. So do you understand now why I called doing anything else, a case of fuckingarounditis? Stop eating carbs and the body fat melts away.

Yes, it's easy to understand your statement when you actually provide context to what you're explaining, rather than expecting others to be able to guess it.
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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2015, 12:29:14 PM »
I have to disagree.  No amount of fat you can consume can compensate for a huge loss of carbs.  Carbs are not necessary, and yes your body can function fully on fat.  However this does not mean this is optimal for certain goals.  Carbs are the muscles primary source of fuel for a reason.  It is possible there are some people with odd genetics who can make more use of fat and lose less strength than others.  However I know of no powerlifters or strong men going for their max performance who eat a very low carb diet.  Most heavily carb load as much as they possibly can.  Especially if there is a 24 hour weigh in period.  I also know of very few bodybuilders that go ultra low carb in the offseason trying to add muscle.  The only times most people hear of ultra low carb diets are when people are trying to lose bodyfat and or stay very lean.  I can't recall any bodybuilder saying "time to add mass, I better cut all the carbs out and up my fat."   It all depends on what your goals are.    

You've never heard? So therefore it doesn't work? Carbs are NOT the body's main source of fuel, and shouldn't be used as such. Bodybuilders want mass, not necessarily muscle mass. Today it's more drugs, and less definition and symmetry. So, if you want show muscles vs. strong muscles, you only need a couple of quarts of ice cream and lots of water, to top off your glycogen supply to get the pumped look the next day for pictures or competition. You don't need carbs to train. They add nothing to muscle tissue proper. You can work longer and harder on a fat fueled diet.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2015, 12:32:14 PM »
I eat my quests during my cheat day. If u REALLY want to lose BF, id stay away

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2015, 12:51:31 PM »
I learned this shit before you were even born mike just keep eating roids like u do sugar alcohols my /\/igga

Haha yes sir!!

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2015, 12:55:55 PM »
Haha yes sir!!
i was joking about the roids u dont need them for living\life

U just nneed your wang to grow out for hoes drink beer it digests for wang energy
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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2015, 01:00:25 PM »
Starting to see this more and more so I did a little research on this.

Basically the theory that since sugar alcohols and fibers are either slowly digested or not absorbed at all there is little to no insulin spike. So you subtract those carbs from fiber and sugar alcohol from the other carbs and you get be carbs

So let's say a protein bar is 30g total but 20of it is from fiber the bar "really" only has 10g of carbs

There seems to be no real studies that I can find to support these claims and none of it is backed by the FDA

Seems like bullshit and started to pop up around the same time the IIFYM People did.

Net Carbs were popular in early 2000s with the Atkins nonsense.  Its not new.  Get your bullshit straight.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2015, 01:01:58 PM »
The number of calories are the only thing that matter geniuses.

Stupid diets, stupid protocols, stupid wastes of time.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2015, 02:40:52 PM »
The number of calories are the only thing that matter geniuses.

Stupid diets, stupid protocols, stupid wastes of time.

LOL! Counting calories! Every "dieting" fat slob's obsession, until the day they die of obesity related causes. It doesn't work! All they do lose muscle, and gain more fat.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2015, 03:35:52 PM »
LOL! Counting calories! Every "dieting" fat slob's obsession, until the day they die of obesity related causes. It doesn't work! All they do lose muscle, and gain more fat.
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Why are you fat?

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2015, 03:36:03 PM »
Keto "works" mainly because you eat less calories on such a diet.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2015, 03:40:22 PM »
LOL! Counting calories! Every "dieting" fat slob's obsession, until the day they die of obesity related causes. It doesn't work! All they do lose muscle, and gain more fat.
agreed you have to overconsume just to meet energy demands of daily requirements/deadlines
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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2015, 03:41:17 PM »
Keto "works" mainly because you eat less calories on such a diet.

Not true! Where do people get these stupid ideas? On keto diet, you don't eat sugars and starches. Those are what makes you fat, calories from those sources. When you stop eating them, your body starts to burn fat, not carbs, for fuel, and you burn off your body fat. Stay on keto and the body fat doesn't come back.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2015, 03:42:22 PM »
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Why are you fat?

I'm not fat. You are.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2015, 03:56:01 PM »
I'm not fat. You are.
Want to make a bet.

Am I allowed to post your pictures?

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2015, 03:57:08 PM »
Want to make a bet.

Am I allowed to post your pictures?

If you had any.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2015, 04:02:22 PM »
If you had any.
Mr. Coppa,

I know who you are.

Can I post your pictures?

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2015, 04:11:57 PM »
The guy on the left wrote two books on Keto but has failed to maintain proper bodyweight. He exposes the problem with Keto for long-term weight maintenance: either you can't stick to it, or you overeat fat.


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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2015, 04:15:38 PM »
The guy on the left wrote two books on Keto but has failed to maintain proper bodyweight. He exposes the problem with Keto for long-term weight maintenance: either you can't stick to it, or you overeat fat.



He's a fifth column, sent in to attack the movement from within. Establishment SOP.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2015, 04:17:01 PM »
Mr. Coppa,

I know who you are.

Can I post your pictures?

Who's Mr. Coppa?

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2015, 04:31:03 PM »

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2015, 04:33:24 PM »
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What? You're just some asshole troll.

Talk to yourself from now on.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2015, 04:34:10 PM »
What? You're just some asshole troll.

Talk to yourself from now on.
I'm talking to you though.

You look like shit.

Erik C

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2015, 04:36:21 PM »
I'm talking to you though.

You look like shit.

Obviously, you've never seen me.

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2015, 04:39:02 PM »
Obviously, you've never seen me.
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You look like shit.  HTH

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Re: Diet guru's what's your take on "net carbs"
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2015, 04:44:54 PM »
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You look like shit.  HTH

You're an asshole. Nothing can help you.