2015 Arnold Classic - Arnold not holding back - calls out the judges

[SF1900]

Let it go SF. Clearly Rudy has his Sustanon and Anadrol dosages a little too high.  All he wants to do is argue.  

Maybe he's having a roid rage episode. 

[rudylrichards]

You stupid dingus, my original post about arnold being relevant was addressing JamesJenkisFitness when he said:

Arnolds rant was similar to one of ed coans last month. No one will agree with me. But you know what. Theyre two has beens, that have resentment. What they've done has been eclipsed. Hes irrelevant... if he stopped showing up, no one would notice.

& I agreed with you, you stupider Dingus by telling him that Arnold is on another lever & again by saying Arnold is bodybuilding.

[rudylrichards]

Let it go SF. Clearly Rudy has his Sustanon and Anadrol dosages a little too high.  All he wants to do is argue.  

FU TW, I'm natural, going the Skip Lacour & tyoshi Moody (sp) route

[tommywishbone]

FU TW, I'm natural, going the Skip Lacour & tyoshi Moody (sp) route

  All right nature boy, whatever you say.  I'll make sure to tell Mike O'Hearn you're following his all natural program. 

[SF1900]

All right nature boy, whatever you say.  I'll make sure to tell Mike O'Hearn you're following his all natural program. 

I bet he is smashing his keyboard while typing to us lol.

[rudylrichards]

All right nature boy, whatever you say.  I'll make sure to tell Mike O'Hearn you're following his all natural program. 

thank you.

I bet he is smashing his keyboard while typing to us lol.

that's a bet you'd lose. I get on GB mostly when I'm bored to waste time & because ppl here aren't gonna agree with everything u say. Not one of those that take this seriously Killa

[io856]

Steve Reeves has a place in men's physique

Arnold is commenting on the way he looked in comparison to today's competitors. He is trying to dominate them in some way.

[Hulkster]

I don't think it's getting worse , I think it's been like this for a long time. Hell Dorian had a guy and a physique that people wouldn't aspire to. That's why I always say if bodybuilding contests were fixed this guy would be 10X Mr Olympia

sadly, the 1994 olympia was were it all started.

fat gutted one armed watery dorian over near perfect shawn ray..bullshit

that was the first time it was rewarded at the top contest and it hasn't got any better..

[DroppingPlates]

Open class means no limits. If Ahnuld isn't pleased, then he should introduce the classic BB class, which has a weight/length limit.

[njflex]

Open class means no limits. If Ahnuld isn't pleased, then he should introduce the classic BB class, which has a weight/length limit.

THAT WOULD WORK BUT THEN ANOTHER FEW HRS TACKED ON THE WEEKEND ADDITIONAL..

[NarcissisticDeity]

sadly, the 1994 olympia was were it all started.

fat gutted one armed watery dorian over near perfect shawn ray..bullshit

that was the first time it was rewarded at the top contest and it hasn't got any better..

Not accurate , as usual. Momo was being awarded contest wins with a huge gut. I know facts aren't your friend but try sticking to them.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Lee Haney at 249lbs and Ronnie at 244lbs   

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[njflex]

haney even though most here say his arms were weak had a great fdb pose...and haney even though he used as coleman used ,his face/head was unchanged.

[hench]

Seems Arnold is real pissed this time with what he saw at the classic.
He's come up with an idea that include audience participation into helping decide the winner! thoughts on that?

[SF1900]

Seems Arnold is real pissed this time with what he saw at the classic.
He's come up with an idea that include audience participation into helping decide the winner! thoughts on that?

When did he put forth this idea?

If he did, its a horrible idea. Fans will just be as biased. Branch has a big following because of his "hardcore" attitude. Branch is a much more popular bodybuilding than Cedric, so Branch would probably get more votes than him. Not to mention that fans would not vote for someone if they didn't like their personality, no matter how good they looked. Case in point: No matter how good phil heath looks, Id never vote for him to be Mr. O. Putting some of it in the hands of fans would be disastrous.

What needs to happen is a huge overhauling of the judges and the way they rank these bodybuilders. For example, the first thing that should be judged is the stomach. If you have a gut, youre automatically relegated to out of the top 10, no matter how good you look everywhere else. So, if you have a gut but youre ripped, someone who has a flat stomach and is less ripped should be placed ahead.

 Roelly Winklaar should have been dead last with his gut, no matter how much better he was than the other competitors.

[hench]

A discussion following on from his comments started on reddit and Arnold was quick to join in.
I agree I'm not sure how it would work, it was just an idea he put out there that would also engage the audience.
Not knowing exactly how hed engineer it Im not sure it would help.
 
I always said Ronnie should have never won despite outstanding body parts or poses, a gut simply shouldn't be present whether only noticeable in transitions or  simply just there it should be immediate disqualification. A fat appearance should have never been accepted in any shape or form!

When did he put forth this idea?

If he did, its a horrible idea. Fans will just be as biased. Branch has a big following because of his "hardcore" attitude. Branch is a much more popular bodybuilding than Cedric, so Branch would probably get more votes than him. Not to mention that fans would not vote for someone if they didn't like their personality, no matter how good they looked. Case in point: No matter how good phil heath looks, Id never vote for him to be Mr. O. Putting some of it in the hands of fans would be disastrous.

What needs to happen is a huge overhauling of the judges and the way they rank these bodybuilders. For example, the first thing that should be judged is the stomach. If you have a gut, youre automatically relegated to out of the top 10, no matter how good you look everywhere else. So, if you have a gut but youre ripped, someone who has a flat stomach and is less ripped should be placed ahead.

 Roelly Winklaar should have been dead last with his gut, no matter how much better he was than the other competitors.

[rudylrichards]

Damn, forgot how great Haney was. TotalLee awesome I think he use to say

haney even though most here say his arms were weak had a great fdb pose...and haney even though he used as coleman used ,his face/head was unchanged.

you can't compare anyone to Haney genetically Flex, he just doesn't make sense. I doubt he used like Coleman though. Wasn't as many things available. Haney Retired at 32/33. Ronnie & Dorian didn't win their 1st O until 32/33

[TheShape.]

"This is something I'm passionate about - and we can never change it unless all of us speak out.
I have always wanted bodybuilding to be a sport for the masses, but the more the judges reward pure mass at the expense of symmetry and beauty, the more we will limit our appeal to the mainstream.
I want to walk away from a contest and hear the audience saying "I want to look like that." That used to be the case, and it can be the case again if we work together.
I would love to hear your thoughts."

[rudylrichards]

When did he put forth this idea?

If he did, its a horrible idea. Fans will just be as biased. Branch has a big following because of his "hardcore" attitude. Branch is a much more popular bodybuilding than Cedric, so Branch would probably get more votes than him. Not to mention that fans would not vote for someone if they didn't like their personality, no matter how good they looked. Case in point: No matter how good phil heath looks, Id never vote for him to be Mr. O. Putting some of it in the hands of fans would be disastrous.

wow!! You're not that dumb  , very intelligent post  .  A lot of ppl here don't realize that. For Arnold & every fan that's upset about Branch placing 2nd there's about 3, 4 or more who are just as happy he took 2nd or upset he didn't win. Should the judges worry about the 20-30% who are bitching about the glory days or the 70-80% who are there to see mass monsters.

You go to a national show, when the bantams - LHW are onstage, you can sit anywhere, no one wants to see the smaller aesthetic physiques. When the heavy & SHW are on, you can't get a seat. Ppl wanna see monsters.
We talk about Reeves now as being attainable but back then he was a freak. Ppl didn't think that was attainable back then. Same with Arnold.

[hench]

they don't need to be bantams though. All the other eras had big bodybuilders without guts. If guts get banned everyone will have to go back to the kind of stacks and drug cocktails that built the physiques of the 70's/80's/90's etc. Cedric is no bantamweight and doesn't have a gut.

 

wow!! You're not that dumb  , very intelligent post  .  A lot of ppl here don't realize that. For Arnold & every fan that's upset about Branch placing 2nd there's about 3, 4 or more who are just as happy he took 2nd or upset he didn't win. Should the judges worry about the 20-30% who are bitching about the glory days or the 70-80% who are there to see mass monsters.

You go to a national show, when the bantams - LHW are onstage, you can sit anywhere, no one wants to see the smaller aesthetic physiques. When the heavy & SHW are on, you can't get a seat. Ppl wanna see monsters.
We talk about Reeves now as being attainable but back then he was a freak. Ppl didn't think that was attainable back then. Same with Arnold.

[DroppingPlates]

"This is something I'm passionate about - and we can never change it unless all of us speak out.
I have always wanted bodybuilding to be a sport for the masses, but the more the judges reward pure mass at the expense of symmetry and beauty, the more we will limit our appeal to the mainstream.
I want to walk away from a contest and hear the audience saying "I want to look like that." That used to be the case, and it can be the case again if we work together.
I would love to hear your thoughts."

I want to look like Big Ramy, now go fuck yourself retarnold

[Hulkster]

Not accurate , as usual. Momo was being awarded contest wins with a huge gut. I know facts aren't your friend but try sticking to them.

Momo had a huge gut but was still way better than the second place competitor

dorian had a gut but was overshadowed (pun intended) by Shawn

but because of shit judging, and the IFBB's insistance on creating dynasties, he won.

thats the key difference that you overlooked

I'm not surprised.

[milone79]

Arnold is king. Always spoke his mind on the guts already in the nineties

Getbig is honest and calls it like it is since way back

Modern bb is shyte. All time low

Bob Chic, bb.com and the judges are full of it. Look how awkward it became when Arnold mentions the elephant in the room! Lol.

Political correctness in bb is:

Cant mention guts
Cant mention drugs
Cant mention supplements are shit
Cant mention that they dont look good anymore

Front line puppets like Larry Pepe and godawful Norton won't have it. They pretend bb is evolving

Bb is spinning in circles in the toilet bowl. It's time to start over

AGREE 100% !!!!!

[The Scott]

Seems Arnold is real pissed this time with what he saw at the classic.
He's come up with an idea that include audience participation into helping decide the winner! thoughts on that?

Ban all schmoes.