Author Topic: DNP log to come, female pics and stats (Read 12466 times)

dragevo · « **on:** April 21, 2015, 10:00:33 AM »

Hello all,

There's a lack of good logs with dnp and other variables that come into play on the forums. So Im gonna set up this log below and I will leave no information out. So here's what this client of mine will be doing and some background info:

-32yo female womens physique competitor (no name or other info)
-currently in prep for an national level (pro qualifier) show in the states
-I've been working with this competitor for 3 years and this will be her first run with dnp
-typical competes with my calipers at 8.3%-8.6% BF. We are gonna attempt for 7's
-currently sitting at 10-11%
-131-132lbs AM dry
-she will run clen directly up to the start of dnp, so we will see how effective dnp is despite her 2 weeks off clen.

Current supplements:
T3 35mcg a day
clen starts at 20mcg and works up to 60-80mcg(started today)
anavar 10mg in the AM
Tbol 10mg to start in 1 week
Starting nolva this week at 20mg a day

Diet will be on point as it is. I will actually be adding 25-30% increase in carbs when she starts the dnp. Im not interested in sharing the safety measures we are taking at the time. The starting dose will be 250mg a day with the goal of 10days, which may change as well as dose after 1 week. I don't give out my diet or ending contest prep drug regimen for free online. I will post up pics at the end of the clen/day before dnp. Here's what I will cover: starting weight and BF%, pics and any changes or hiccups inbetween. I will conclude with the same stats after 1 week off the dnp for water retention purposes. Anything I forgot to add or you want to see PM me. Also PM me with any questions. Ill post pics soon

ritch · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2015, 10:15:26 AM »

Not my drug of choice, lol, but always up for a good read.

Jizmo · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:11:53 AM »

will be interesting to see how that works out on a high caliber (even if female) physique.

plenty of noobs running the stuff with retarded diets, bodyfat levels etc

BigRo · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2015, 11:28:06 AM »

lowest effective dose I presume, I would feel cautious about putting a client on dnp.

dragevo · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2015, 12:38:20 PM »

Jizmo

Im with you...people are running it and they're like....I was 20% BF now Im 14%.......Thats easily corrected with diet alone.

dragevo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2015, 12:41:59 PM »

Quote from: BigRo on April 21, 2015, 11:28:06 AM

lowest effective dose I presume, I would feel cautious about putting a client on dnp.

Absolutely. Im really not interested in finding the optimal, high end of dosing with her, with the LD10 being so close to the effective dose. More so keep it very conservative. I wouldn't do this with anyone. Has to be someone I work closely with and who I know is in tune with reality.

Overload · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2015, 02:54:57 PM »

Why does she need DNP? Just to see how it works?

No need for it, but if she's hellbent on using it make sure she stays hydrated and eats well.

gettingbetter · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2015, 07:08:00 AM »

Quote from: dragevo on April 21, 2015, 12:41:59 PM

Absolutely. Im really not interested in finding the optimal, high end of dosing with her, with the LD10 being so close to the effective dose. More so keep it very conservative. I wouldn't do this with anyone. Has to be someone I work closely with and who I know is in tune with reality.

Hate to be that guy...

LD10? Where did you find the LD 10 of DNP? I could only find the LD 50 at 30 mg/kg for rats (4.8 mg/kg/d converted to HED so less than 288 mg for you client if she weighs about 60 kgs) but more to the point, the NOAEL in rats is 10mg/kg/d. If you convert it to HED, it's 1,6 mg/kg/d... so 96 mg for her) That is the only useful info regarding toxicity of DNP as there are no human studies on it ever since the 1930. So "therapeutic doses" are experimental at best and are actually higher than the NOAEL (no observed adverse effect level)... What you really are doing, suppose she weighs 60 kgs, giving her 250 mg a day would be very very close to the LD50 and three times the NOAEL yet probably still below the therapeutic dose...

https://www.lewisu.edu/academics/biology/pdf/2_4_%20DNP.pdf

By comparison, the LD50 for Trenbolone is 5000 mg/kg in the rat....

DNP is poison. It basically fucks up the production of energy in the mitochondria in every cell of your body and releasing it in the form of heat!!! That is not a good idea for long term health at all, as longevity is usually associated with an efficient ATP system, both producing energy and evacuating the by-products of that combustion (anti oxydants such ash NADH). Mitochondria are key factors to signal apotosis and fucking up with that is basically an open invite for cancer. Who knows what the consequence of even a few days of insufficient energy production could be? Cataracts, damage to vital organs etc... All reported in the litterature.

It's her body but getting the facts straight is important...

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13181-011-0162-6
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18461559

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #8 on:** April 23, 2015, 07:52:31 AM »

is it crystalline DNP?

oni · « **Reply #9 on:** April 24, 2015, 05:27:44 AM »

I personally found DNP less effective the leaner I got but just as uncomfortable
And nothing starvation + tren can't do just as fast

dragevo · « **Reply #10 on:** April 24, 2015, 09:22:29 AM »

On I.....
I'm thinking she's leaner than we initially thought and I doubt running the dnp is going to be as effective as it is with the 20% bf peeps who run it. I'm gonna see where she's at after the Clen run and decide. She may be close enough an she still had 10 weeks left today. 4lbs off stage weight last year.

pestosterone · « **Reply #11 on:** April 25, 2015, 07:15:39 AM »

Look post pics bro

dragevo · « **Reply #12 on:** May 03, 2015, 07:20:42 AM »

pics day 1

dragevo · « **Reply #13 on:** May 03, 2015, 07:21:34 AM »

more pics

dragevo · « **Reply #14 on:** May 03, 2015, 07:36:41 AM »

Day 1 pics are yesterday (5/2)
Weight 131lbs
5ft
BF% 10.59%
waist 28 inch

The evening before she had what may be one of her last cheats. Weight before this was 127.8-129lbs. I also had her measure her fluid intake the day before the start (1.1 gallons).

She drank 2 gallons total plus 12oz V8 before bed on Day 1.
temp max 100.3 oral
had her check it every 2 hours as well as anytime she felt febrile. The majority of the day her temps were 99.1-99.6 degrees.

Other supplements:
taurine 500mg a day
Calcium 1500mg
Mag 750mg
zinc 45mg
womens multi
vitamin C 1000mg
1 bottle of 32oz poweraide zero a day
12oz V8 before bed
Motrin on standby

20mg nolva a day
10mg anavar a day
10mg of turinabol a day
letrozole 1.25mg EOD

Carbs up by 33% until we see how she reacts in a few days.

Jizmo · « **Reply #15 on:** May 03, 2015, 10:11:53 AM »

so she is on DNP now huh?
looks good, still pretty feminine... but is she bloated or where are her abs? or just a weak point?
otherwise good physique.
i dont think any of these amounts of supps/v8 etc are needed. just some vitamin C and E and a multi would do the trick.
but well, DNP in females is of course a bit more dangerous regarding the cataract thing...

dragevo · « **Reply #16 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:43:33 PM »

Bloated....weight is up 3lbs due to a cheat meal and added water the day before. Bloating isn't a problem once off the dnp for sure.

As far as the reasoning for the V8 and added minerals. Its to counteract any losses from sweating. May be overkill but Id rather her not lose too many electrolytes.

Women's Physique should be feminine. She will surely harden up the last 4 weeks. This log is for dnp fatloss in a fairly lean competitor, to see if there is an advantage that is worth the sides

dragevo · « **Reply #17 on:** May 03, 2015, 02:44:48 PM »

Quote from: El Diablo Blanco on April 23, 2015, 07:52:31 AM

is it crystalline DNP?

Yes crystalline dnp

Overload · « **Reply #18 on:** May 04, 2015, 11:21:46 AM »

She's already in good shape.

Shouldn't take long.

dragevo · « **Reply #19 on:** May 04, 2015, 07:09:57 PM »

Day 2 (5/3)
Weight 131.1 lbs

no noticeable sides other than being really hot, and constantly sweating.
temp 98.6-99.4

didn't train due to busy family day

Day 3 (5/4)
weight 129.0
temp range 97.7-100.1 throughout the day
woke up in a pool of sweat, hair was wet, had a slight headache and was really thirsty. Headache subsided after 2 shaker cups of water (about 48oz)

felt some nausea and shortness of breath

trained legs, and felt like there was no energy to push hard
finished with a 15 minute fast-paced walk.

dragevo · « **Reply #20 on:** May 05, 2015, 06:24:58 PM »

Day 4 (250mg)

129.4lbs still somewhat bloated in abdomen. She feels arms look tighter. she measured waist at 27.5 today.

98.7-99.3 degrees.
Nausea and a bit more tired
continuing to feel hot all day and night
hit the gym a bit harder just kept breaks longer in between sets
continuing the same hydration regimen

dragevo · « **Reply #21 on:** May 06, 2015, 06:33:29 PM »

Day 5 250mg

temp max 100.1
waist 27 in AM
weight 129.2lbs

same sides: hot, sweats, mild lethargy, and mild nausea
trained back
-legs appear puffy and after meals, she states bloating throughout the day

gettingbetter · « **Reply #22 on:** May 07, 2015, 01:01:55 AM »

Quote from: dragevo on May 06, 2015, 06:33:29 PM

Day 5 250mg

temp max 100.1
waist 27 in AM
weight 129.2lbs

same sides: hot, sweats, mild lethargy, and mild nausea
trained back
-legs appear puffy and after meals, she states bloating throughout the day

So major health risks for a 2 lbs loss... Probably water. Her puffy legs is sign her kidneys and lymphs can't detox her cells... She won't be able to process food as her body is overloaded trying to clean the dead cells all over her organs. Wow what a shitty poison...

Goodrum level of retardness right here...

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #23 on:** May 07, 2015, 07:42:29 AM »

How long are you running the DNP?

Jizmo · « **Reply #24 on:** May 07, 2015, 08:24:33 AM »

Quote from: gettingbetter on May 07, 2015, 01:01:55 AM

So major health risks for a 2 lbs loss... Probably water. Her puffy legs is sign her kidneys and lymphs can't detox her cells... She won't be able to process food as her body is overloaded trying to clean the dead cells all over her organs. Wow what a shitty poison...

Goodrum level of retardness right here...

go to a my little pony forum pls