Best Drum INTRO to a song

[The Ugly]

Absolutely did not know the rudiments, by his own admission. Could not read charts. Live drum solos sucked.

"John Bonham began taking lessons to master his rudiments, but quickly developed his own hard-hitting sound."

http://www.johnbonham.co.uk/site/downloads/bonham-article.pdf

Guess you can interpret that however you'd like.

[The Ugly]

began taking lessons, but stopped means he was not a musician. another drunkard like Keith Moon. Bonham sucks.

"Not a musician" is simply retarded, formally trained or not. And, obviously, your quote interpretation completely suits your predetermined Bonham narrative. Sounds to me, though, like he mastered them so quickly he got bored and moved on.

Agree with you on Moon, though. Way overrated.

[YngiweRhoads]

began taking lessons, but stopped means he was not a musician. another drunkard like Keith Moon. Bonham sucks.

Of course not. He was a drummer, not a musician.

Next thing you know, people will be calling singers musicians as well.

Total anarchy.

[Powerlift66]

Not the best, but I always liked this one... He goes out at the end just as fast/heavy... Too bad he (Dave Holland) ended up be a kid diddler...

[Thin Lizzy]

This is the best drum song of this decade. That he also sings makes it even more impressive.

As an aside, if you're in NYC, and want to see live music, The Bowery Ballroom has excellent sound.

[The Ugly]

If formal study is your main concern, why include Rich on your list? Imagine you'd know his history.

[Mr Anabolic]

Fuck the intro.  NO ONE could ever beat this...

[Bosch]

Have you guys watched movie Whiplash? It's about relations between aspiring jazz drummer and his teacher.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2582802

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If you still haven't - give it a try, it's great film about music (yeah, a rare case) with top-notch acting and editing.

[The Ugly]

according to some here the booze bag John Bonham is the better drummer

If only he could read those pesky charts, huh?

[Dreadlifter]

For me this or "Stargazer" by Rainbow.

[Beefjake]

Rocket by Def Leppard has nice drum intro.
Basically carries on the whole song.

[njflex]

For me this or "Stargazer" by Rainbow.

yes,,,cozy powell..stargazer basically has it all vocals/guitars/back up 'keyboards/drums'masterpiece,another classic rainbow/dio'gates of babylon'

[APE907]

Ticks and leeches

rational gaze

Yes and yes

[APE907]

Bonham was really the best ever.....

His solos were quite boring.  The live solo in The Song Remains the Same was sloppy and overly long, also quite repetitive.

Musically he was a phenomenal drummer who played what was right for the song.

Not trashing JB, was highly influenced by him as a kid. Learned kick drum right foot independence by playing When the Levee Breaks, The Ocean and Kashmir among others.......I just think his strongest suit is his musical, groove oriented style.

[Fortress]

The tired Buddy-Rich-is-the-best-and-no-one-else-will-ever-be-as-good claptrap needs to die. Yes, the man was a freakishly amazing drummer, but it's hardly a stretch to imagine there are many others since who have matched, or even bested, his skills.

Spouting his name is like a default setting these days.

As well, to make THE OTHER tired statement that "rock drummers aren't in the same league occupied by jazz drummers" is proof of ignorance and/or lack of musical creativity of the mind.

Talent is talent and the genre in which talent is expressed is merely a canvas for that talent.

And who is retarded enough to suggest THEY hold the master key of drumming talent quantification/qualification?

Please.

   

[Mr Anabolic]

The tired Buddy-Rich-is-the-best-and-no-one-else-will-ever-be-as-good claptrap needs to die. Yes, the man was a freakishly amazing drummer, but it's hardly a stretch to imagine there are many others since who have matched, or even bested, his skills.

Spouting his name is like a default setting these days.

As well, to make THE OTHER tired statement that "rock drummers aren't in the same league occupied by jazz drummers" is proof of ignorance and/or lack of musical creativity of the mind.

Talent is talent and the genre in which talent is expressed is merely a canvas for that talent.

And who is retarded enough to suggest THEY hold the master key of drumming talent quantification/qualification?

Please.

People who are not musicians cannot really comprehend what Buddy is doing in the video. Yes, he was fast as fuck, but he was also precise.  95% of the drummers in the world will never even get close to that level.  Will anyone else be as good?... probably.  I've seen/heard some very good drummers, but I've never seen anyone come close to that... not yet anyway.

The thing that makes that video even more amazing is that Buddy was in his mid-60's there.

"If you don't practice enough, you'll end up a drummer in a rock band" - Buddy Rich

[The Ugly]

People who are not musicians cannot really comprehend what Buddy is doing in the video. Yes, he was fast as fuck, but he was also precise.  95% of the drummers in the world will never even get close to that level.  Will anyone else be as good?... probably.  I've seen/heard some very good drummers, but I've never seen anyone come close to that... not yet anyway.

The thing that makes that video even more amazing is that Buddy was in his mid-60's there.

"If you don't practice enough, you'll end up a drummer in a rock band" - Buddy Rich

HUGE Rich fan - not really interested in the 'better than Buddy' conversation - but he contradicts himself in the quote you've attached. Dude bragged about NEVER practicing.

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