Thanks.
I'm no expert, but to me it makes sense to use a SERM at the beginning of a cycle because it allows you to keep your estrogen at a healthy level while still keeping "Gyno" away. This of course is in contrast with using an AI from the get go, which may lower your estrogen too much and may not necessarily prevent "Gyno" completely.
I've read that "Gyno" can still occur in the presence of low estrogen levels as it's partly a function of the androgen to estrogen balance in the breast. Is this true?
Is it safe and effective to use a SERM along with an AI during a cycle? For example, Nolvadex with Arimidex?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be best to start a cycle with a SERM like Nolvadex and then start using an AI in case water retention, high blood pressure, etc. come along? Basically, only use the AI if you have to.
SERMS do absolutely nothing against excess estrogen. they just block receptors in breast tissue, so that gyno cant grow. you still have all the other negative side effects of high estrogen.
gyno CAN NOT occur without the presence of high estrogen. impossible. prolactin can cause gyno too but only if estrogen is high too.
to the other guys:
its definitely androgens which cause aggression. just hit up test suspension or methyltren and youll know
estrogen makes you emotional and a bitch.
like women.^^
estrogen TOO HIGH AND TOO LOW can both kill your sex drive.
always keep estrogen in range.
always use an AI. if you feel like an AI is not enough or you have problems dialing the dosage in then add a SERM.
AI=pretty much necessary
serm=can be a useful addition but not what i would see as necessary
if youre on high dosages of androgens than estrogen can be in the higher range too, no problem.
its more about the androgen:estrogen balance than about absolute numbers anyway.
someone who has low test levels and a "highish" estrogen level can get gyno from that
while someone with the SAME estrogen level but VERY HIGH androgen levels (from exogenous test) would not have any problems at all.
its the balance that matters.