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obsidian

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12950 on: November 03, 2026, 10:53:49 PM »
Why when it goes up and you hold some, it isn't manipulated?

Why is it only manipulated when a person holds some and it doesn't go up?

Price has never fallen below the 1yr bottom. When it happens is that manipulation to?

We know what BTC actually know what BTC is now. We don't quite know what ETH is. All we know is it was launch and BTC holders rotated over to pump it but it was all OGs and there created "alt season". So the next cycle the rotation occured and alt season repeated. That is manipulation.......

The next cycle it didn't occur. It was SOL. So we have 2 rotations out of 3.

Yet an ETF has been created which means it does mean something. We don't know what yet.
You're arguing against a point I never made. I'm not saying ETH is manipulated only when it goes down. I'm questioning the entire five-year price action — the peaks AND the valleys. Manipulation doesn't have to mean suppressing a price; it can mean pumping it just as easily. Calling out the volatility isn't the same as being upset about losing money. You're debating my portfolio, not my argument.

And just look at the five-year chart I've attached. Seriously, does that look like a healthy, organic price discovery journey to you? Look at those peaks and valleys. I'm not claiming the chart alone proves manipulation, but if that doesn't at least raise an eyebrow, I don't know what will. A mountain range isn't proof of manipulation, but pretending there's nothing unusual about the terrain is just as intellectually dishonest.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #12951 on: Today at 07:21:19 AM »
You're arguing against a point I never made. I'm not saying ETH is manipulated only when it goes down. I'm questioning the entire five-year price action — the peaks AND the valleys. Manipulation doesn't have to mean suppressing a price; it can mean pumping it just as easily. Calling out the volatility isn't the same as being upset about losing money. You're debating my portfolio, not my argument.

And just look at the five-year chart I've attached. Seriously, does that look like a healthy, organic price discovery journey to you? Look at those peaks and valleys. I'm not claiming the chart alone proves manipulation, but if that doesn't at least raise an eyebrow, I don't know what will. A mountain range isn't proof of manipulation, but pretending there's nothing unusual about the terrain is just as intellectually dishonest.



Take a look at the 1 minute chart for ETH today, a wick from about 2435 to 2310 (just under the low of the past few hours) for a few seconds with a sudden large spike in sell volume and then instantly back to the 2435 range.

Could have been market makers taking out people's stop losses, but there was nothing like that on BTC.