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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2825 on: June 16, 2019, 08:06:25 AM »
how hard is it go get your money out?

What an idiotic question...

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2826 on: June 16, 2019, 10:15:21 AM »
What an idiotic question...

I am not trolling etc but i hear funds are locked up and a pain in the ass to get since BTC is not very liquid etc etc

 hence i am asking  -

this is a bodybuilding forum not a BTC forum...

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« Reply #2827 on: June 16, 2019, 03:45:38 PM »
I am not trolling etc but i hear funds are locked up and a pain in the ass to get since BTC is not very liquid etc etc

 hence i am asking  -

this is a bodybuilding forum not a BTC forum...

If it’s a serious question - the answer is around 10 seconds. You transfer the coins and the recipient gives you cash, or a service, or any other item of value, in return. If you decide to sell via a 3rd party trading exchange you will be at their liberty in terms of when they pay you the sales proceeds - it could be almost immediate, it could be a day or 2, (and worst case it could be never ...).


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« Reply #2828 on: June 17, 2019, 01:29:02 AM »
If it’s a serious question - the answer is around 10 seconds. You transfer the coins and the recipient gives you cash, or a service, or any other item of value, in return. If you decide to sell via a 3rd party trading exchange you will be at their liberty in terms of when they pay you the sales proceeds - it could be almost immediate, it could be a day or 2, (and worst case it could be never ...).



Exactly.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2829 on: June 17, 2019, 02:14:30 AM »
Exactly.

Why by the way is exactly the same risk that exist when you keep money in a bank ... which in turn is why people are so attracted to BTC. There is no need to keep it in a bank nor with an exchange.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2830 on: June 17, 2019, 02:17:24 AM »
Oh and 8500.

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« Reply #2831 on: June 17, 2019, 02:20:25 AM »
For the record I have been buying more over the last few weeks. I’ve come around to thinking BTC is really here to last as a store of value. And that various factors may arise that could drive it significantly higher.

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« Reply #2832 on: June 17, 2019, 05:49:25 AM »
For the record I have been buying more over the last few weeks. I’ve come around to thinking BTC is really here to last as a store of value. And that various factors may arise that could drive it significantly higher.

I read somewhere yesterday that it only took about 3 weeks to go from $9200 to 20k the last time we were at this level.

I'm not saying that is going to happen but with the halvening around the corner, more potential institutional money coming in combined with the FOMO crowd likely to come and the HODL'rs who are dug in and simply not selling...we are looking at the perfect storm for one hell of a supply crunch.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2833 on: June 17, 2019, 01:15:12 PM »
Why by the way is exactly the same risk that exist when you keep money in a bank ... which in turn is why people are so attracted to BTC. There is no need to keep it in a bank nor with an exchange.

The same risks as having money in a well established bank?

Not a chance.

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« Reply #2834 on: June 17, 2019, 04:23:37 PM »
I read somewhere yesterday that it only took about 3 weeks to go from $9200 to 20k the last time we were at this level.

I'm not saying that is going to happen but with the halvening around the corner, more potential institutional money coming in combined with the FOMO crowd likely to come and the HODL'rs who are dug in and simply not selling...we are looking at the perfect storm for one hell of a supply crunch.

Exactly. Could well happen. Also the halving of mining output kicks in next year. We could see some very quick fomo movements. Having said that, this time I’m in it for the long term. I see it as a hedge against a various possible future scenarios.

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« Reply #2835 on: June 17, 2019, 04:27:08 PM »
The same risks as having money in a well established bank?

Not a chance.

Many perceive a way higher risk keeping money in the bank. Which is why so many people are moving to a virtual and decentralised store of wealth.

A bank can literally go bust. It’s IT systems could go down. The tax man can come and demand a share. They can impose fees. They charge to transfer internationally. A the government can steal from you simply by printing money. These are just some of the reasons people are moving to BTC.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2836 on: June 17, 2019, 04:29:06 PM »
Mr A - how’s your capitulation theory going? :D

Oh an $8600 - one of the best performing assets so far in 2019. So much for capitulating lol!!!

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2837 on: June 17, 2019, 04:32:03 PM »
Yes! I am rich again! lol

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2838 on: June 18, 2019, 03:42:07 AM »
Facebooks launch of a new currency should be interesting...

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« Reply #2839 on: June 18, 2019, 03:48:59 AM »
Ripple bought 8-10% stake in MoneyGram.
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« Reply #2840 on: June 18, 2019, 07:58:53 PM »
Wiggs u back in the market?

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« Reply #2841 on: June 18, 2019, 08:04:06 PM »
Facebooks launch of a new currency should be interesting...

was all over the financial news outlets

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« Reply #2842 on: June 18, 2019, 08:56:52 PM »
I’ve come around to thinking BTC is really here to last as a store of value.
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You just figured that out? Because as far as I remember, you've been saying that for years.

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« Reply #2843 on: June 19, 2019, 12:45:01 AM »
was all over the financial news outlets

Gib what do you do for a living?

Full time investor. Yourself?

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« Reply #2844 on: June 19, 2019, 05:58:02 AM »

I’ve come around to thinking BTC is really here to last as a store of value.

"You just figured that out? Because as far as I remember, you've been saying that for years."


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« Reply #2845 on: June 19, 2019, 06:00:53 AM »
Well to be honest, I was somewhat of a skeptic at first. Although I enjoyed winding Mr A up and ultimately putting him in his place etc, as I have said many times before, the only reason I initially bought the first time around was because I could see an upward hype trend that i was willing to best still had some way to run. (And fortunately I was right on this and made a very nice % ROI).

However, I was never comfortable with an asset that cannot be valued (as it produces no yield) but I wanted to educate,  document (and also debunk) the typical objections and misconceptions that people had against BTC. I sold after the last peak at around 15K, so made great gains. I then started rebuying at 5K as I concluded the bounce back was permanent, and now have 11 coins. I have now have come around to thinking that BTC really is possibly both here to stay, also also that it "could" well have huge gains ahead in years to come.

We have seen a Bitcoin go from $1, to $10, to $100, to $1000, to $10000. Its quite feasible next stop is 100K. To me, allocating a small portion of net wealth to this is worth the possible return, not to mention a real hedge against a range of possible future scenarios. As Mr A used to say in jest "first 100,000, then 1,000,000" - ironically he may turn out to be correct yet has stubbornly and steadfastly refused to buy himself being the stubborn old man he is...

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #2846 on: June 19, 2019, 06:13:49 AM »
Many perceive a way higher risk keeping money in the bank. Which is why so many people are moving to a virtual and decentralised store of wealth.

A bank can literally go bust. It’s IT systems could go down. The tax man can come and demand a share. They can impose fees. They charge to transfer internationally. A the government can steal from you simply by printing money. These are just some of the reasons people are moving to BTC.

Where I'm from, it has to be declared to the revenue services. Not that most do, but in the small chance they are discovered, there could be penalties.

They're also working on technology to monitor and track it.

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« Reply #2847 on: June 19, 2019, 06:39:58 AM »
Where I'm from, it has to be declared to the revenue services. Not that most do, but in the small chance they are discovered, there could be penalties.

They're also working on technology to monitor and track it.

Yes some countries may consider it a capital gain and want tax. Others might classify it as income considering you as being a professional trader. If you are still earning investment income it’s best not to live in countries like the US.

Having said that tax man will only know if you bought via exchange or if you deposit cash profits from a sale into a bank acct. For this reason more and more people are trading anonymously peer to peer and not “cashing in”.
but rather staying in BTC long term.

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« Reply #2848 on: June 19, 2019, 06:56:37 AM »
Full time investor. Yourself?

do you invest in other things than bitcoin?

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« Reply #2849 on: June 19, 2019, 07:15:21 AM »
Yes some countries may consider it a capital gain and want tax. Others might classify it as income considering you as being a professional trader. If you are still earning investment income it’s best not to live in countries like the US.

Having said that tax man will only know if you bought via exchange or if you deposit cash profits from a sale into a bank acct. For this reason more and more people are trading anonymously peer to peer and not “cashing in”.
but rather staying in BTC long term.
do you invest in other things than bitcoin?

Of course. Primarily stocks and real estate. % allocated to BTC and gold and art/collectibles is nominal.