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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4150 on: January 12, 2021, 10:33:12 AM »
Why would anyone use Bitcoin as currency when it is always fluctuating so wildly anyway?  If you buy some shoes online for $100 worth of Bitcoin those shoes may end up costing you thousands or even millions. ;D

If people are just buying Bitcoin for the investment, what are they investing in?  Currency that no smart person would ever use and no government backs or protects?


Haha, 169 pages yet THIS.

If it was superior transactionally it would be far cheaper, safer and faster than VISA, etc. It's not.

If it was a store of value it would have a floor in price based on something or a bank would loan against it. It doesn't/they don't.


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« Reply #4151 on: January 12, 2021, 11:52:12 AM »
Why would anyone use Bitcoin as currency when it is always fluctuating so wildly anyway?  If you buy some shoes online for $100 worth of Bitcoin those shoes may end up costing you thousands or even millions. ;D

If people are just buying Bitcoin for the investment, what are they investing in?  Currency that no smart person would ever use and no government backs or protects?

A good point.

Was it you that raised the energy one as well or someone else? That’s another good one because if this is supposed to get as big as they say, BTC has to figure out a way to become more efficient otherwise energy regulation will kill it.

The other thing that turns me off BTC is that a Chamath guy. I liked some of his stuff a while back but recently he sounds like a cultist. In a recent interview he was asked if there was any other coins that might perform well in the future and rival BTC. He replied with a blank ‘no, it’s only BTC’.  Then when asked about ethereum and the DeFi project he acts a smart ass and says never heard of DeFi, don’t know what it is. Don’t care.  Cheeky fucker.

This guy owns 5% of all BTC..... says he will buy the Hamptons when it hits 1M..... he will be the new world overlord lol.


This is generation 1 of crypto. New coins and partnerships are constantly getting done. Just like consumer products it will evolve so I’d expect the coins to shuffle places.

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« Reply #4152 on: January 12, 2021, 12:52:08 PM »
Why would anyone use Bitcoin as currency when it is always fluctuating so wildly anyway?  If you buy some shoes online for $100 worth of Bitcoin those shoes may end up costing you thousands or even millions. ;D

If people are just buying Bitcoin for the investment, what are they investing in?  Currency that no smart person would ever use and no government backs or protects?

There were some sites selling steroid years ago accepting bitcoin.  Imagine how some idiot feels who bought a cycle for 3 bitcoin valued at $500 each which now are worth $120K.  That was some expensive cycle.  haha

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« Reply #4154 on: January 12, 2021, 01:29:15 PM »
Cuban took full advantage of the .com bubble.  Sold his dumb streaming radio station for billions then a few months later it was gone.  I think Real Media bought it then realized they had shit and their bubble popped.  Cuban walked away with $4billion?  Fuck him indeed.

He definitely knew how to make money,  I wasn't suggesting he was stupid. I just don't like the guy. Always came off as an arrogant dick, at least the things I heard from him.

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« Reply #4157 on: January 12, 2021, 06:39:15 PM »


If it was superior transactionally it would be far cheaper, safer and faster than VISA, etc. It's not.

If it was a store of value it would have a floor in price based on something or a bank would loan against it. It doesn't/they don't.

Allow me to clarify. Visa is actually well on the way to adopting BTC as an option for users to have as a base store of value. As is PayPal. As is Square. And as are many others. How it works is that BTC is underlying store of value with the payment service providers then making the conversion into fiat currency as needed/desired/required on a payment transaction.

So, for example, you have your 1 BTC with them (your global and immutable perfectly scarce store of value). Wherever you go in the world, that is your base value (just like USD was to gold, e back in the day, before it was de-pegged). Then all payments are done in fiat and reconciled against the base value. Or, it will be done via the Lightening Network, which is a layer built over BTC. Over time your BTC should hopefully go up, faster than the rate of fiat currency depreciation. Potentially, the BTC in your account could fund your spending for life, depending on if certain global macroeconomic factors play out.

As for BTC being a store of value, in the short term it obviously is. In the longer term it has been constantly appreciating over time, beyond the pace of inflation. This will keep happening for many years to come, albeit with ups and downs along the way, But the rate of growth over and above the rate of inflation will moderate in the years and decades to come as BTC's market cap grows.

Banks do loan against BTC, as do exchanges, as do individuals, and as happens with decentralized finance. Some funds have also raised money to buy BTC based entirely on debt (via issuing bonds). Any asset can form security to borrow against, and that includes Bitcoin (obviously).

As for having a "floor in price", no asset has this. Not Gold, not art, not stocks, not housing, not even the USD. All are worth what only what others are prepared to pay for them. And on this basis, it of course follows that all have a theoretical potential value of zero. 

One last comment. Every single time BTC hit a new high, some people claim its "too high". Yet on every single occasion in BTC's history, people have made money either simply by HODLing, and/or buying on the dip. Every single time.

 Will this pattern keep repeating? Time will tell...

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« Reply #4158 on: January 13, 2021, 02:39:17 AM »
There were some sites selling steroid years ago accepting bitcoin.  Imagine how some idiot feels who bought a cycle for 3 bitcoin valued at $500 each which now are worth $120K.  That was some expensive cycle.  haha
I am kind of embarrassed to admit I came across this the hard way.  I bought a small amount of Bitcoin last year just because the online casinos were really pushing it.  It was easy to put in the account and much easier to withdraw than any other method.  It was just a week ago another gambler pointed out that we would have made more money just leaving it alone as opposed to wagering on games. :-[

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« Reply #4159 on: January 13, 2021, 03:53:52 AM »
Damn! Yes, that's the right idea though. Get fiat into BTC. But don't spend the BTC. Rather HODL and let the power of mathematics work in your favor!

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« Reply #4160 on: January 13, 2021, 04:05:52 AM »
Gib,

Do you think a Biden admin is good or bad for Bitcoin?

Also where do you see the bottom in the current pullback? I want to get some BTC. I am going to guess it will be volatile for a while with what's going on in DC. What's your take?

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« Reply #4161 on: January 13, 2021, 04:08:23 AM »

That's interesting thanks for posting! Yeah those guys that lost their keys are SOL!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/in-bits-the-programmer-locked-out-of-his-130m-bitcoin-account/ar-BB1cH4p6

Stefan Thomas has just two chances left to get his hands on his $240m (£175m) fortune.

Thomas is a San Francisco-based computer programmer, and a decade ago he was given 7,002 bitcoins as a reward for making a video explaining how the cryptocurrency works.

At the time he was paid, they were worth $2-$6 each. He stashed them away in his “digital wallet” and forgot about them.

Now each bitcoin is worth $34,000, and the contents of his wallet are valued at $240m. But Thomas has forgotten the password that will unlock his fortune.

German-born Thomas has already entered the wrong password eight times, and if he guesses wrong two more times his hard drive, which contains his private keys to the bitcoin, will be encrypted – and he’ll never see the money.

The price of bitcoin hit more than $40,000 last week, having doubled in less than a month. It has since fallen back but it is still up by more than 700% since the pandemic was first declared in March last year, rising from about $5,000.

Thomas said he has tried his eight most frequently used passwords to access his IronKey hard drive, but all turned out to be wrong. The device auto-encrypts all contents after the 10th inaccurate guess.

“I would just lay in bed and think about it,” Thomas told the New York Times. “Then I would go to the computer with some new strategy, and it wouldn’t work, and I would be desperate again.”

Thomas said the experience has understandably put him off cryptocurrencies. “This whole idea of being your own bank – let me put it this way, do you make your own shoes?” he said. “The reason we have banks is that we don’t want to deal with all those things that banks do.”

Following the publicity of Thomas’s plight, Alex Stamos, an internet security expert at Stanford Internet Observatory, said he could crack the password within six months if Thomas gave him a 10% cut of the digital fortune.

“Um, for $220m in locked-up bitcoin, you don’t make 10 password guesses but take it to professionals to buy 20 IronKeys and spend six months finding a side-channel or uncapping,” he said on Twitter. “I’ll make it happen for 10%. Call me.”

Cryptocurrency data firm Chainalysis said it estimated that about 20% of the existing 18.5 million bitcoins appears to be lost or stranded in inaccessible wallets.

In 2013, Welsh IT worker James Howells accidentally threw out a hard drive containing the keys to 7,500 bitcoins. At the time, the lost bitcoins were worth about £4m. Now, they would be worth more than $250m.

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« Reply #4162 on: January 13, 2021, 04:13:20 AM »
I bought a Ledger Nano S a few years ago. Never opened it. Started messing around with it yesterday. Pretty cool little device. Only problem is it has limited storage capacity so you can only install apps for about 4-5 cryptos. Then you have to shuffle them around if you want more by uninstalling the ones you don't need to access right away.

The newer Ledger Nano X has a lot more storage capacity. So I will probably get one of those also. I am moving some of my alts to the Ledger because Binance is forcing me to move to Binance.us and the US site does not have all the cryptos that the main Binance site has. But I can store some of them on a Ledger.

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« Reply #4163 on: January 13, 2021, 04:23:55 AM »
I bought a Ledger Nano S a few years ago. Never opened it. Started messing around with it yesterday. Pretty cool little device. Only problem is it has limited storage capacity so you can only install apps for about 4-5 cryptos. Then you have to shuffle them around if you want more by uninstalling the ones you don't need to access right away.

The newer Ledger Nano X has a lot more storage capacity. So I will probably get one of those also. I am moving some of my alts to the Ledger because Binance is forcing me to move to Binance.us and the US site does not have all the cryptos that the main Binance site has. But I can store some of them on a Ledger.

In some ways its good you are limited to number of cryptos. I would suggest keeping it real simple. BTC (and maybe ETH) in cold storage (and don't lose your password or seed words). Trading alts for fun on the exchange.

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« Reply #4164 on: January 13, 2021, 05:06:56 AM »
In some ways its good you are limited to number of cryptos. I would suggest keeping it real simple. BTC (and maybe ETH) in cold storage (and don't lose your password or seed words). Trading alts for fun on the exchange.

Yeah, I just use a nano s. Leave some out of it for trading if you're not just holding. .

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« Reply #4165 on: January 13, 2021, 06:39:29 AM »
The USMS is recognized as the U.S. government’s leader in the sale of cryptocurrency. It has conducted a number of digital asset auctions over the years, including one that disposed of the 144,000 bitcoins seized from the Silk Road darknet marketplace.

The first online government auction of seized bitcoins was held in 2014; the USMS sold 130,000 bitcoins valued at approximately $50 million at the time of the sales. In 2015, the agency conducted multiple online bitcoin auctions, selling nearly 174,000 BTC valued at approximately $67 million at the time.

The agency established a memorandum of understanding in 2016 with the Treasury Executive Office for Asset Forfeiture for it to handle the disposition of forfeited bitcoins emanating from the Treasury Forfeiture Fund. In its annual report for the financial year 2018, the agency declared that it sold a total of 5,883 bitcoins in two auctions for a total of $55.8 million, adding that it continued to be the lead custodian for the 22 different types of cryptocurrencies seized by the DOJ and the Department of Treasury.

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« Reply #4166 on: January 13, 2021, 08:03:28 AM »
Just bout 5,000 G999 crypto last night along with XLR crypto.  These forms have a very very very low buy-in with the potential to go up.  The XLR you can get in most exchanges which I got in Coinbase while you have while G999 can only be purchased in the GS exchange which I've been telling you all about.  There is two more cryptos I'm looking at as I'm about to cash out my V999 crypto

You guys need to be getting these other crypto because just like currency as countries are going to start choosing individual forms of crypto for themselves

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« Reply #4167 on: January 13, 2021, 08:16:59 AM »
Goodrum, did you see that Coinbase will list on the stock market soon?

I will follow it a bit...

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« Reply #4168 on: January 13, 2021, 08:36:44 AM »
Retailers Flock To Crypto As Booking.com Becomes Latest Firm To Get Onboard


Travel industry giant Booking.com has partnered with Crypto.com highlighting the growing commitment major retailers are making to the digital economy. Bitcoin’s breathtaking rally beyond $35,000 kicks off 2021 on a high following above expectation institutional interest with banks and hedge funds now aggressively seeking to expand their bitcoin holdings.

 As the travel industry starts the preparation for the inevitable post-pandemic rush among holiday-makers, and with the approval of several vaccines likely to expedite that process, the partnership comes at an opportune time for both parties.

Kris Marszalek, CEO of Crypto.com said, “In 2020, our Crypto.com Visa Card program grew to become the most widely available card of its kind and we now serve over 5 million users around the world, who are eager to travel again in 2021.”

Marszalek indicated that the latest partnership will be followed by similar alliances with enterprises dominating other consumer industries.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/lawrencewintermeyer/2021/01/11/retailers-flock-to-crypto-as-bookingcom-becomes-latest-firm-to-get-onboard/?sh=3c89b9062f05

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« Reply #4169 on: January 13, 2021, 10:11:52 AM »
Goodrum, did you see that Coinbase will list on the stock market soon?

I will follow it a bit...


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« Reply #4170 on: January 13, 2021, 10:18:33 AM »

You guys need to be getting these other crypto because just like currency as countries are going to start choosing individual forms of crypto for themselves

No they aren’t. Even if they were they would not use anything outside the major players (adoption preference is overwhelmingly BTC). Besides the volatility problem won’t be resolved for probably a decade with these and by then this whole money supply problem would have played out and been resolved.

Don’t kid yourself, it is a pump and dump until it becomes ‘something’. BTC is the largest coin and even that has next to no adoption in the greater world.

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« Reply #4171 on: January 13, 2021, 12:01:48 PM »
No they aren’t. Even if they were they would not use anything outside the major players (adoption preference is overwhelmingly BTC). Besides the volatility problem won’t be resolved for probably a decade with these and by then this whole money supply problem would have played out and been resolved.

Don’t kid yourself, it is a pump and dump until it becomes ‘something’. BTC is the largest coin and even that has next to no adoption in the greater world.

The market has always been volatile even with bitcoin but I've made money with other minor cryptocurrencies as well.  They may not have the trading volume as other companies but they have that potential. 

Trading crypto and stocks is always a risk....not for pussies.  If you cant hack it, then sit in the stands
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« Reply #4172 on: January 13, 2021, 12:37:16 PM »
Just bout 5,000 G999 crypto last night along with XLR crypto.  These forms have a very very very low buy-in with the potential to go up.  The XLR you can get in most exchanges which I got in Coinbase while you have while G999 can only be purchased in the GS exchange which I've been telling you all about.  There is two more cryptos I'm looking at as I'm about to cash out my V999 crypto

You guys need to be getting these other crypto because just like currency as countries are going to start choosing individual forms of crypto for themselves

yeah, maybe we can earn enough to move into a shitbox like you.  stick with what you know......which isnt much.

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« Reply #4173 on: January 13, 2021, 12:47:46 PM »
yeah, maybe we can earn enough to move into a shitbox like you.  stick with what you know......which isnt much.


What I know about is putting my stick in your mother's pussy in addition to pussies who dont actually trade...you're either in the game or not
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« Reply #4174 on: January 13, 2021, 12:53:06 PM »

What I know about is putting my stick in your mother's pussy in addition to pussies who dont actually trade...you're either in the game or not

Try it in English this time. Pussy is repulsive top fa88ots, so you didn't hurt my feelings, cause your dirty dick wouldn't get close to my mom. Go burn some books now, you disgusting censoring commie.