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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #9775 on: November 02, 2023, 03:03:47 PM »
Ok, well as we can see now, I was right in making this call.

Price on 20 October was 29500. We are now sitting on 35000. (So up around 15% since my call).

MayDay, we almost certainly won't see the equities dump (or Bitcoin dump) you predicted for November. Powell pretty much put an end to that possibility with his comments yesterday.

What you were right on is that 35K would be a likely short term resistance level. I think we may now just have broken through to 35K being the new short term support level, in what will be a overall upwards trend.

Perhaps…… We just made attempt 1 It’s only been 2 days in November, 28 more left for which an event can happen.

I have the start of CPI wave 2 beginning around Mar 2024. I’m expecting an event before then to cause it and 3 x US aircraft carriers are now floating in the ME. I assume it’ll be an energy related impact.

FWIW I have the next Bitcoin peak in October 2024.

We will have a -30% selloff at some point. 48k to 35k, 42k to 30k, 35k to 25k.

Fidelity called for 100k BTC in 2023 yet their own model doesn’t even allow for that before 2026….. this is the same mob calling for 1M BTC in a decade. They’re all full of shit.

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« Reply #9776 on: November 02, 2023, 04:07:52 PM »
Perhaps…… We just made attempt 1 It’s only been 2 days in November, 28 more left for which an event can happen.

I have the start of CPI wave 2 beginning around Mar 2024. I’m expecting an event before then to cause it and 3 x US aircraft carriers are now floating in the ME. I assume it’ll be an energy related impact.

FWIW I have the next Bitcoin peak in October 2024.

We will have a -30% selloff at some point. 48k to 35k, 42k to 30k, 35k to 25k.

Fidelity called for 100k BTC in 2023 yet their own model doesn’t even allow for that before 2026….. this is the same mob calling for 1M BTC in a decade. They’re all full of shit.

I'm still on similar levels. Maybe even 42k to low 20s being the pain trade for everyone. But I lean more towards a recession scare or brief recession sending it there and not a geopolitical event.

Also the lack of action in ALTs tells me retail aren't back and no new money has entered, so from my perspective it's still a sideways bear market.

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« Reply #9777 on: November 03, 2023, 03:55:12 AM »
Gosh, I am really quite surprised, I must say, that some of the more financially savvy GetBiggers here can't seem to see what to me is a very obvious setup for massaive inflows and consequent price appreciation. I have explained the factors in my earlier post. The phase about leading a horse to water comes to mind...

We have the ability now, to front-run Billions of dollars about to flow into BTC over the next year from massive financial institutions globally. With fixed supply, HODLing, and a surge in demand, the outcome on price is obvious.

How would an increase in military conflict, in the ME, or elsewhere, impact Bitcoin? Any global conflict should be highly positive for Bitcoin demand, and indeed the more severe such conflict, the stronger the demand should be.

Could we see a Bitcoin price movement this year of 30%? Sure we could, given BTC's historical volatility. Bear in mind, volitility works both ways - we could just as easily see a 30% surge. (We have just seen 15% move up over the last 2 weeks).

MayDay - I can see where you get your prediction of a BTC cycle in 2024 from. My view is that this next cycle will run much longer (maybe even right past 2028), primarily because institutional and HNW investors, who will be the major driver of price over the next cycle, take far longer to move, and because the mathematical effect of progressive havening's diminish each time they occur.

PS - just a little factoid - in its entire existence, BTC this year in 2023, has had is lowest annual volatility to date. That is not to say this will continue each year, but overall, as adoption and market cap grow, annual volatility should drop.

As for those no-coiners who whine "oh but its too volatile", my response is that volatility is awesome if you buy low and sell high. If you know that the long term is up, then stacking sats and HODL is the perfect strategy.

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« Reply #9778 on: November 03, 2023, 05:13:15 AM »
Forever the eternal optimist :D

You watch when Microstrategy sell some of their holdings……..

This is good news to hear you bullposting again. I like it when you are like this.

Just a follow up on this Mayday. Since this post, MSTR has continued to buy BTC. And the MSTR stock price has risen from $281 a share to $454 a share over this period.

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« Reply #9779 on: November 03, 2023, 05:16:15 AM »

MicroStrategy CEO Michael Saylor has been a vocal Bitcoin advocate, with his company holding 129,218 Bitcoin (nearly $4.1 billion worth) as of its latest quarterly earnings report.

If the price of Bitcoin falls below $3,562 the company could post some other collateral,” Saylor wrote on Twitter.

Well, it didn't happen mate. Instead of falling BTC falling to $3,562, it pretty much 10x'ed to $35,000. :)

MSTR is now up well over 1 Billion USD on ths value of its BTC holdings.

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« Reply #9780 on: November 03, 2023, 06:00:52 AM »
Gib going for his victory lap at 50% down from all time highs  :D


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« Reply #9781 on: November 04, 2023, 01:02:34 AM »
Just a follow up on this Mayday. Since this post, MSTR has continued to buy BTC. And the MSTR stock price has risen from $281 a share to $454 a share over this period.

What can I say but Doom posting is fun lol.

But I did buy at 17.5k and have had positions the entire time, only selling a small part for 2.5x. I egg on both sides bears and bull but I do my own thing.

I said Tesla would sell, they did. I said one day it’ll be shown on their qtrly earnings, no announcement and that’s how it happened. MSTR will sell once they have room for profit taking and you’ll see it in the Qrtly earnings, Saylor isn’t CEO remember?

Make no mistake, MSTR are full degens. Their ‘magic for success’ was junk bonds which was a horrible idea so they moved to a much better plan of issuing new shares for sale to buy more Bitcoin and run their company. Share price goes up, issue new shares, sell to market, buy Bitcoin and run unprofitable business.

However that method means Saylor has so far fucked anybody who ponied up round 1 and 2 of 2028 share maturity by his strategy of share dilution. He is a full degen, not even losing 13B has made him learn a lesson.

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« Reply #9782 on: November 04, 2023, 01:25:25 AM »
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Dumped 8% today.
Solana does have a lot of hype going on, and institutional interest. My concern is it is more centralized, the FTX estate holds a lot, and it has a history of shutting down. But, it could do well in the future.

It dumped because their Breakpoint event (October 30 - November 3, 2023)  is over. Short term gamblers always do that. Now the upside trend is back.
Shutting down is now history and resilience is mature, "Firedancer" will change the landscape.Web3 is its DNA.
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« Reply #9783 on: November 04, 2023, 02:06:49 AM »
Just a follow up on this Mayday. Since this post, MSTR has continued to buy BTC. And the MSTR stock price has risen from $281 a share to $454 a share over this period.

Just remember, it was the businesses that drove coin values into the dirt, not the other way around.

Remember how the price of Gold is suppressed…….. now consider for Bitcoin the 2 largest holders…..

Grayscale have 600,000+ coins and all it takes is no ETF approval to make them bleed out….

MSTR has 2.17B in debt at 6%+. They also have 1B+ in 2 lots of share maturities which were done at 1,100 and 800 from memory. If the share price doesn’t get up and hold up they’ll get share price pressure from the issuance which means no more selling shares to cover operating losses. Their only means to cover interest costs and operations is coin sales……

So while you look at a doubling in the share price and get excited, remember it’s -64% from 2021, holds 2.17B of junk bond debt and has 1B in share maturity to give to some very pissed off people 👀

This is while I have said the DXY will rise and rise and rise. We might not get a downswing in the DXY until after 2034…… urgh it’s almost like holding Gold…… wait, wut? 👀

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« Reply #9784 on: November 06, 2023, 08:50:54 AM »
Gib going for his victory lap at 50% down from all time highs  :D

Haha, nice one. :)

Although the way I look at it, I'm currently up around 700% on my average buy-in price, as opposed to being 50% down.

But either way, every single Bitcoin buyer who has ever bought in any Bitcoin cycle has been up on the subsequent cycle. The key is simply to hodl. Those who happened to buy at 64K (or whatever the last peak was) will be nicely in the money this next cycle if they just simply HODL.

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« Reply #9785 on: November 09, 2023, 01:31:15 AM »
36 now.

This set up should be so obvious to you boys. We are are likely the smartest ones here when it comes to finance. That BTC is about to surge is obvious to me (for reasons I already explained)

Also check out Filecoin if anyone is interested in a true utility token with a project already making money and posed for massive adoption ahead, which, if you are really looking for an "alt" coin, I would consider. (Totally different form Bitcoin -  being a utility token and an unregistered security, but a very interesting and legit project nevertheless which has true potential now being realized.). Good video here - seriously recommend anyone interested take a look and then go and do your own research. The time to buy these things is of course now, well before an "crypto boom".

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« Reply #9786 on: November 09, 2023, 01:40:14 AM »
36 now.

This set up should be so obvious to you boys. We are are likely the smartest ones here when it comes to finance. That BTC is about to surge is obvious to me (for reasons I already explained)

Also check out Filecoin if anyone is interested in a true utility token with a project already making money and posed for massive adoption ahead, which, if you are really looking for an "alt" coin, I would consider. (Totally different form Bitcoin -  being a utility token and an unregistered security, but a very interesting and legit project nevertheless which has true potential now being realized.). Good video here - seriously recommend anyone interested take a look and then go and do your own research. The time to buy these things is of course now, well before an "crypto boom".

Are you still telling yourself we are before a "crypto boom"? ;D

U do realize that the surge in price has been flattening out drastically after every single halving to the point, that the next one will barely even affect the BTC price anymore. Get over it, the peak of the hype was 2021, if u want money get a job.... ;D


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« Reply #9787 on: November 09, 2023, 02:58:48 AM »
Are you still telling yourself we are before a "crypto boom"? ;D

U do realize that the surge in price has been flattening out drastically after every single halving to the point, that the next one will barely even affect the BTC price anymore. Get over it, the peak of the hype was 2021, if u want money get a job.... ;D


Yes, although BITCOIN (not "crypto"), although inevitably there will still be some who try to suck out money from BTC into their "crypto" scams.  We might see a few coins with legitimate prospects rebound hard on the back of a BTC boom - for example, Chainlink, ETH, Uniswap, Filecoin, Aave, but basically I would suggest, and urge anyone, RIGHT NOW, to secure their status in the world as a wholecoiner. BTC is poised to surge to levels that will make current prices seem a blip.

As for getting money, yes you can "get a job" (or even better start your own business), but you need somewhere to defend that money from the fiat Ponzie scheme - that's where Bitcoin comes in.

If you care for you future, you will stack Sats hard, hodl, educate others, and enjoy the ride we are about to have.

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« Reply #9788 on: November 09, 2023, 03:00:43 AM »
As for getting money, yes you can "get a job" (or even better start your own business), but you need somewhere to defend that money from the fiat Ponzie scheme - that's where Bitcoin comes in.

The defense worked amazing for those who bought BTC 3 years ago at 60k... ;D (which is actually the majority of most BTC HODLers)

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« Reply #9789 on: November 09, 2023, 03:32:48 AM »
The defense worked amazing for those who bought BTC 3 years ago at 60k... ;D (which is actually the majority of most BTC HODLers)

Lol, what an idiotic comment.

You are confusing short term volatility, with a long term trend.

Anyone who has bought regularly over time, will be well up in terms of having preserving their economic energy. Further, even those very few people who happened to have bought only once, and with that time being exactly that the very top of the last peak (or any peak before that), will be up on the next cycle.

So if are really trying to make the argument that BTC is not a good defense against fiat devaluation, you are simply a moron who does not understand basic concepts of economics, who has the mindset of a perpetual loser.

I am doing my very best to help you, but there are some people who just don't allow themselves to be helped. You may well be one of those types, although it really is hard to comprehend how anyone can be so stupid. You can lead Getbigger to water...

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« Reply #9790 on: November 09, 2023, 04:57:11 AM »
Lol, what an idiotic comment.

You are confusing short term volatility, with a long term trend.

Anyone who has bought regularly over time, will be well up in terms of having preserving their economic energy. Further, even those very few people who happened to have bought only once, and with that time being exactly that the very top of the last peak (or any peak before that), will be up on the next cycle.

So if are really trying to make the argument that BTC is not a good defense against fiat devaluation, you are simply a moron who does not understand basic concepts of economics, who has the mindset of a perpetual loser.

I am doing my very best to help you, but there are some people who just don't allow themselves to be helped. You may well be one of those types, although it really is hard to comprehend how anyone can be so stupid. You can lead Getbigger to water...

Don't worry, at one point you're gonna understand the difference between price and value as well. And I'm afraid you'll learn the hard way ;)

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« Reply #9791 on: November 09, 2023, 06:06:20 AM »
Don't worry, at one point you're gonna understand the difference between price and value as well. And I'm afraid you'll learn the hard way ;)

Lol, what a fool you are. Your attitude and stubbornness will come back to haunt you. BTC is already 800% since this thread started, outperforming any other asset class over that period. Had you bought when I made my strong buy call back at 25K, you would have been 4x up when it hits 100K. (Please think of me when that happens...

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« Reply #9792 on: November 09, 2023, 01:55:26 PM »
Woke up and noticed ETH went up to $2,074 today! I guess it punched through the $2,000 barrier again. Nice move!

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« Reply #9793 on: November 09, 2023, 01:56:20 PM »
Are you still telling yourself we are before a "crypto boom"? ;D

U do realize that the surge in price has been flattening out drastically after every single halving to the point, that the next one will barely even affect the BTC price anymore. Get over it, the peak of the hype was 2021, if u want money get a job.... ;D


Unless the dollar goes caput.

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« Reply #9794 on: November 09, 2023, 03:21:10 PM »
Ethereum went up today because Blackrock filed for a Spot Ethereum ETF. Ark Invest also has a filing with the SEC for an ETH ETF.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-jones-11-09-2023/card/ether-soars-after-blackrock-files-for-spot-ethereum-etf-LDr6LDXLjnLXjUY3JpbT

Ether Soars After BlackRock Files for Spot Ethereum ETF

The price of ether surged more than 9% Thursday after BlackRock filed paperwork with the Securities and Exchange Commission Thursday for a spot exchange-traded fund based on the cryptocurrency.

Ether was trading at around $2,060 as of 5 p.m. ET, the highest level since April, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The in-house token of the Ethereum blockchain has gained 72% this year.

The ETF would hold the second-largest cryptocurrency as the underlying asset and track its price. Coinbase Global would be the custodian for the fund's ether holdings, according to the filing.

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« Reply #9795 on: November 09, 2023, 09:25:36 PM »
Yes, although BITCOIN (not "crypto"), although inevitably there will still be some who try to suck out money from BTC into their "crypto" scams.  We might see a few coins with legitimate prospects rebound hard on the back of a BTC boom - for example, Chainlink, ETH, Uniswap, Filecoin, Aave, but basically I would suggest, and urge anyone, RIGHT NOW, to secure their status in the world as a wholecoiner. BTC is poised to surge to levels that will make current prices seem a blip.

As for getting money, yes you can "get a job" (or even better start your own business), but you need somewhere to defend that money from the fiat Ponzie scheme - that's where Bitcoin comes in.

If you care for you future, you will stack Sats hard, hodl, educate others, and enjoy the ride we are about to have.

This recent boom was on the back of ETH spot ETF news. ETH yield could potentially be a huge draw for boomers

FOMO got me so I'm chasing  :D  Bought my first big tranche of Alts. Celestia TIA at just under $2.5 (at $2.6 now)

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« Reply #9796 on: November 10, 2023, 03:08:34 AM »
This recent boom was on the back of ETH spot ETF news. ETH yield could potentially be a huge draw for boomers

FOMO got me so I'm chasing  :D  Bought my first big tranche of Alts. Celestia TIA at just under $2.5 (at $2.6 now)
I don't get the negativity surrounding Ethereum. It basically dominates the crypto market. If you ask the average Joe on the street about crypto all they know about is Bitcoin. But that's good for Ethereum because it means you're still early, before peak Ethereum exposure. It will be interesting to see if Ethereum flips Bitcoin in the next bull run - hopefully we don't have WW3 to screw everyone's plans.  ;D 8)


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« Reply #9797 on: November 10, 2023, 03:29:47 AM »
Solana will replace Ethereum.
All layers in one Blockchain
Faster, no fees, decentralized, Web3 leader, payment, transactions, smart contracts, NFT champions..

Soon at 80 then 120, 360, 690, 1400 $
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« Reply #9798 on: November 10, 2023, 03:41:50 AM »
Solana will replace Ethereum.
All layers in one Blockchain
Faster, no fees, decentralized, Web3 leader, payment, transactions, smart contracts, NFT champions..

Soon at 80 then 120, 360, 690, 1400 $
Everything in one layer is a recipe for a disaster. The scalability comes with multiple chains, and it increases decentralization. Soon you'll be able to do a transaction on Ethereum and the cheapest transaction price will be available, without you having to choose which chain the transaction is routed through. I've also heard that Ethereum, Solana, Bitcoin etc. will become more interoperable. I'll have to get up to date with all these developments.

And cheap Ethereum transactions won't destroy the deflation narrative of Ethereum. Because the number of transactions would just increase by a lot more. The goal is to scale Ethereum to be able to support 500 million users, and then beyond that. And one blockchain is not the solution for everything. Solana will have it's place also, as will Bitcoin, obviously. I might get into Solana next year. I am not doing any transactions this year for tax reasons.

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« Reply #9799 on: November 10, 2023, 08:13:05 AM »
Buy from a hot wallet with your keys in your hard wallet via a third-party payment provider like MoonPay.
Once you become a millionaire, convert it to a stable coin, USD, Baht.
Once you're mentally ready, move to Thailand to live the good life until you die. Open a Thai account, take a Cypriot passport..
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