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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11100 on: August 08, 2024, 02:10:30 AM »
I’m calling a Bear market.

Took me 1 cycle in 2021 to learn. 2022-24 I nailed 17.5k to 73.1k and posted the entire time. It wasn’t easy.

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« Reply #11101 on: August 08, 2024, 07:41:48 AM »
ETH ETF investors would be loving a 2,000 price?

If you say they like making a loss, they’re going to be super happy soon…..
New ETF investors. Everyone who wants to invest needs to get on the elevator at some point. Those who wanted exposure can now get in on a lower floor. Gibs got in when the Bitcoin elevator stopped at $5,000.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/spot-ethereum-etfs-receive-inflows-221707679.html?guccounter=1

Spot Ethereum ETFs Receive Inflows Despite Market Plunge

Newly launched spot Ethereum ETFs generated inflows Monday, a rare bright spot on a day when risk-on assets, including cryptocurrencies, plunged.

The positive flows occurred even as ether, the crypto that the spot Ethereum funds track, dropped more than 25% at one point Monday from the previous day, according to data from CoinMarketCap. It has recently recovered some of the lost ground to trade at about $2,500, up 4.5% from Monday, same time.

The Ethereum ETFs recorded $48.8 million in inflows, according to data from U.K. asset manager Farside Investors.

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« Reply #11102 on: August 08, 2024, 07:54:05 AM »
Solana will replace Ethereum.

Solana's ability to repair any failure is unmatched.
The Mainnet is becoming more and more resilient and is not even in Prod yet.
Firedancer will be deployed between Q4 and Q2 2025 and Solana
will exploit its full potential, that means everything Ethereum does
without multilayer, huge cost and slowness.

The Solana consensus mechanism is leaving Bitcoin and Ethereum in the dust by delivering an unparalleled blend of speed, scalability, and security. If you’re curious about what makes Solana’s consensus mechanism so special, here’s the quick scoop:


High-Speed Transactions: Capable of handling thousands of transactions per second.
-Decentralized Applications (dApps): Facilitating a rich ecosystem of decentralized applications.
-Proof of History (PoH): Using cryptographic timestamps for faster blockchain synchronization.
-Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS): Combining security and efficiency.

The Solana blockchain stands out for its ability to support high-speed transactions, which is a game-changer for decentralized applications. Unlike Bitcoin’s slow Proof of Work (PoW) or Ethereum’s now Proof of Stake (PoS) systems, Solana’s unique combination of Proof of History (PoH) and Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS) creates a highly efficient and scalable network.
I am highly suspect of Solana - considering the founder's origin. People have been burned before by such individuals. FTX, Celsius, Madoff, Belford - just look at who they were. Bullshitters.

Solana TPS and transaction volumes are exaggerated and misleading. Many of the wallet / user actions are bots trading, not real people. Wash-trading is rampant.

https://cryptoslate.com/solanas-july-dex-volume-exceeds-ethereum-amid-wash-trading-concerns/

“Looking at the wallets involved, the vast majority seem to be bots in the same network with tens of thousands of transactions. They generate fake volumes independently, with random amounts of SOL and a random no. of transactions until the project rugs, before moving onto the next one.”

https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchains-like-solana-brag-about-tps-but-it-s-misleading

https://medium.com/@CryptoSavingExpert/solana-tps-is-fake-and-massively-inflated-cyber-capital-founder-da2ff27b1ed4

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11103 on: August 08, 2024, 07:54:45 AM »
New ETF investors. Everyone who wants to invest needs to get on the elevator at some point. Those who wanted exposure can now get in on a lower floor. Gibs got in when the Bitcoin elevator stopped at $5,000.

True - and actually I got some even at around the 3K mark. But have been continuously buying all along on the way up since then also.

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« Reply #11104 on: August 08, 2024, 07:56:27 AM »
I am highly suspect of Solana - considering the founder's origin. People have been burned before by such individuals. FTX, Celsius, Madoff, Belford - just look at who they were. Bullshitters.

Solana TPS and transaction volumes are exaggerated and misleading. Many of the wallet / user actions are bots trading, not real people. Wash-trading is rampant.

https://cryptoslate.com/solanas-july-dex-volume-exceeds-ethereum-amid-wash-trading-concerns/

“Looking at the wallets involved, the vast majority seem to be bots in the same network with tens of thousands of transactions. They generate fake volumes independently, with random amounts of SOL and a random no. of transactions until the project rugs, before moving onto the next one.”

https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchains-like-solana-brag-about-tps-but-it-s-misleading

https://medium.com/@CryptoSavingExpert/solana-tps-is-fake-and-massively-inflated-cyber-capital-founder-da2ff27b1ed4

You are fully correct. However, they type of investor chasing alt-gains don't care. And that is the very problem with any non-Bitcoin cryptocurrency. 

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« Reply #11105 on: August 08, 2024, 08:02:35 AM »
https://www.theblock.co/post/309494/eth-staking-reaches-27-95-as-liquid-restaking-protocols-experience-exponential-growth

ETH staking reaches 27.95% as liquid restaking protocols experience exponential growth

The percentage of the ETH supply staked reached an all-time high of 27.95%. This comes after a brief dip two weeks ago, when it dropped by 0.76 percentage points in a single day on July 21, from 27.58% to 26.82%.

Since then, this figure has not only rebounded but surpassed previous highs. Notably, since the launch of the ETH ETFs, the percentage of ETH staked has increased by 1.9%.

What's particularly interesting is how, similar to the trend in the Bitcoin network’s transaction count discussed in the previous section, ETH’s staking trend has decoupled from its price performance.

Since ETH hit highs of around $4,090 in March, its price has dropped by approximately 30% to $2,900 at the time of writing. However, during this same period, the percentage of ETH staked has increased by around 2%, from 26% to nearly 28%.

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« Reply #11106 on: August 08, 2024, 08:05:12 AM »
https://cryptoslate.com/buterin-believes-layer-2-are-close-to-solving-the-interoperability-problem/

Vitalik Buterin believes Ethereum Layer-2 networks are close to solving the interoperability problem
Buterin said "people will be surprised" at how soon many of the mainstay challenges will be overcome.

Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin forecasts a rapid resolution of cross-Layer-2 interoperability issues within the Ethereum ecosystem.

Buterin said in an Aug. 5 social media post that recent advancements and collaborative efforts will soon eliminate current challenges. He added:

“I think people will be surprised by how quickly ‘cross-L2 interoperability problems’ stop being problems and we get a smooth user experience across the entire Ethereum-verse.”

His comments highlight ongoing efforts to streamline user interactions across Ethereum’s Layer-1 and Layer-2 (L2) networks, including rollups, validiums, and sidechains.

L2 solutions for Ethereum face significant challenges, including ensuring interoperability across different Layer-2 networks, maintaining high-security standards, and addressing scalability issues such as data availability and transaction throughput.

User experience complexities and the need for seamless integration with existing infrastructure also pose hurdles.

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« Reply #11107 on: August 08, 2024, 08:12:36 AM »
You are fully correct. However, they type of investor chasing alt-gains don't care. And that is the very problem with any non-Bitcoin cryptocurrency.
Which is why institutional investors need to be careful with something like Solana. Imagine a Solana ETF and it shuts down for a day because the L1 becomes overwhelmed.

Everyone chases gains including you. You want your Bitcoin bags to pamp! Bitcoin Maxi's act like their shit don't stink which is hilarious. Ethereum can do everything Bitcoin can and more. It's faster, lower inflation, gives yield, can do DEFI.

Bitcoin edges out Ethereum when it comes to name recognition, ease of pronunciation, being the OG crypto. Those are not insignificant. But the POW model needs to be figured out - because it is a dead end IMO. Unless governments are willing to keep it going regardless of profitability.

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« Reply #11108 on: August 08, 2024, 08:30:22 AM »
Paul Barron has a great YouTube channel. In this video he looks at Jump Trading and whether they are being forced to sell their portfolio. They have been selling Ethereum the past couple of days and also have a Solana stake.


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« Reply #11109 on: August 11, 2024, 02:28:30 AM »
Everyone chases gains including you. You want your Bitcoin bags to pamp! Bitcoin Maxi's act like their shit don't stink which is hilarious. Ethereum can do everything Bitcoin can and more. It's faster, lower inflation, gives yield, can do DEFI.

You are missing a few concepts here. The "work" required to get Bitcoin is also what gives it its value and rareness (whilst at the same time protecting the network". This is one of the most important features of Bitcoin. BTC can't just be created out of thin air, like ETH was, and like is the case with almost all alts. Imagine if I invented a new form of plastic diamond or gold, which I promoted as being "better" because it takes less energy to create than BTC. Or a cheap chinese watch vs a Patek Philippe.

There will ALWAYS be alts which are created and promoted as being "better" than Bitcoin. Eth being one of the first that tried to benefit from promoting an affinity to BTC, and an infinite number thereafter. Once you understand that, (and once you accept that the market will also understand that, regardless of your personal feelings), you will understand why it makes sense for all of us to agree on a single universal store of value (being Bitcoin), and why over the long term, all alts will be diluted to infinity...vs BTC.

And this is why you will see the trend of ETH declining in value to BTC (now down 30% over the year) gradually continue. (Same thing will happen to Solana over time, and to any other "alt" which is the latest "next best thing"...


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« Reply #11110 on: August 11, 2024, 03:14:04 AM »
You are missing a few concepts here. The "work" required to get Bitcoin is also what gives it its value and rareness (whilst at the same time protecting the network". This is one of the most important features of Bitcoin. BTC can't just be created out of thin air, like ETH was, and like is the case with almost all alts. Imagine if I invented a new form of plastic diamond or gold, which I promoted as being "better" because it takes less energy to create than BTC. Or a cheap chinese watch vs a Patek Philippe.

There will ALWAYS be alts which are created and promoted as being "better" than Bitcoin. Eth being one of the first that tried to benefit from promoting an affinity to BTC, and an infinite number thereafter. Once you understand that, (and once you accept that the market will also understand that, regardless of your personal feelings), you will understand why it makes sense for all of us to agree on a single universal store of value (being Bitcoin), and why over the long term, all alts will be diluted to infinity...vs BTC.

And this is why you will see the trend of ETH declining in value to BTC (now down 30% over the year) gradually continue. (Same thing will happen to Solana over time, and to any other "alt" which is the latest "next best thing"...
Ethereum was mined initially and after the switch to POS validators have to validate transactions and ETH is then minted as a reward for the work the validators performed. Some say Ethereum was pre-mined. Well, just so you know, for the first 6 months the BTC hash rate was around 6 MH/s. Meaning Satoshi was about the only one mining BTC, and Satoshi was able to mine 1 million BTC. That is basically pre-mining. Nobody else mined BTC in the beginning. 6 Mh/s is nothing. An RTX 3090 could hash over 120 MH/s. Even an ATI RX580 could mine over 32 MH/s. That's one GPU exceeding the entire BTC network hashrate in 2009 by more than a factor of 5-20 or more!

Bitcoin mining is a dead end long term. It is centralized and unprofitable and this will be amplified during future halving events. 4 entities are already mining more than 50% of the new monthly BTC supply:

MARA, CLSK, CORZ and RIOT. In July these 4 mined 1,778 BTC. The total mined worldwide was 3,217 BTC.

1,778 / 3,217 = 55.26%

BlackRock and Vanguard have significant stakes in MARA.

https://farside.co.uk/miners/

Ethereum Spot ETF inflows so far total $1,890 billion. This is the total amount accumulated by the 8 Spot ETH ETF products. The Grayscale ETHE outflows have been $2,296 billion as was expected. The same outflows happened with Bitcoin. The fact that the other 8 managed to accumulate close to $2 billion in 2 weeks is very telling. This means there is a significant demand for Spot ETH ETFs. Bitwise speculated that about $15 billion would flow into the Spot ETF funds in the first 18 months. I would say this could be possible considering how much volume we've seen in 2 weeks.

https://farside.co.uk/eth/
https://farside.co.uk/btc/

The current total Spot BTC ETFs inflows are $17.341 billion, after subtracting Grayscale's (GBTC) $19.451 billion outflows. But these products have been offered since January, or more than 7 months. The BTC ETFs inflows could total $50 billion in the first 18 months.

BTC Spot ETF inflows +/- 28 weeks = $36.792 billion
ETH Spot ETF inflows 2 weeks = $1.890 billion

28 weeks / 2 weeks = 14

$1,890 x 14 = $26.460 billion


That's of course assuming the current rate of accumulation continues. If the price of ETH picks up it could accelerate. We'll see. The numbers are not looking too bad. ETHE is still bleeding. Even GBTC is still bleeding. Friday's GBTC outflow was $77 million.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #11111 on: August 11, 2024, 01:56:11 PM »
GiB is right dude.

Your mining argument only makes sense if Bitcoin collapses to zero, never to return. If that happens it takes everything else with it. Sure, it’s possible but you would then be saying the entire crypto industry is currently in the process of vanishing.

Anyhoo we are in a bear market now so everyone will get destroyed. BTC is the wrecking ball to teach people a lesson in humility.

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« Reply #11112 on: August 11, 2024, 11:28:58 PM »
This is interesting. I posted a hypothetical ETH chart in this thread on 10/12/2023. To create the chart I took the chart history on that date and scaled it out into the future. It's converging with today's chart - lmao! The green indicates the real price action from 10/12/2023 - today and the blue is my fictional chart. Total coincidence! Note that the ETH price ran up more than my fictional chart anticipated. Could we be at the bottom of the hill?

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=574601.9797

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« Reply #11113 on: August 11, 2024, 11:42:00 PM »
GiB is right dude.

Your mining argument only makes sense if Bitcoin collapses to zero, never to return. If that happens it takes everything else with it. Sure, it’s possible but you would then be saying the entire crypto industry is currently in the process of vanishing.

Anyhoo we are in a bear market now so everyone will get destroyed. BTC is the wrecking ball to teach people a lesson in humility.
My argument is that the longer Bitcoin mining remains unprofitable the more it will become centralized and impact Bitcoin's security. Would you mine Bitcoin if you're losing $20-25k for each BTC you mine?! The entire scheme is bound to collapse as future halving events makes it more and more expensive to mine BTC. Miners will quit and turn to other endeavors as they already are with AI. I would venture the cost to own, operate, and maintain an Ethereum validator is less than the yield paid out. The hardware would not become obsolete as fast as Bitcoin ASIC hardware. Solana validators have more expensive hardware requirements compared with Ethereum.

https://www.attestant.io/posts/exploring-ethereum-2-validator-costs/

https://en.macromicro.me/charts/29435/bitcoin-production-total-cost

https://www.coinspeaker.com/marathon-digital-mara-stock-revenue/

Marathon Digital (MARA) Stock Tanks 7% as Bitcoin Miner’s Revenue Drops in Q2 2024

In Q2 2024, the company’s adjusted EBITDA swung into a loss of $85.1 million from a profit of $35.8 million in the previous year.

Bitcoin miner Marathon Digital (NASDAQ: MARA) reported its Q2 2024 earnings on Thursday, August 1, while missing its revenue numbers by a wide margin from Wall Street expectations. As a result, the MARA Stock dropped by 7.7% as of Thursday’s closing.

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« Reply #11114 on: August 12, 2024, 01:08:59 AM »
This is interesting. I posted a hypothetical ETH chart in this thread on 10/12/2023. To create the chart I took the chart history on that date and scaled it out into the future. It's converging with today's chart - lmao! The green indicates the real price action from 10/12/2023 - today and the blue is my fictional chart. Total coincidence! Note that the ETH price ran up more than my fictional chart anticipated. Could we be at the bottom of the hill?

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=574601.9797

No, We got fucked this cycle. You get nuked now.

The pain ahead isn’t eve the real pain. I’ll give you the heads up, you will be told the cycle is going to push out to 2026 because you had the bear market, effectively resetting the bullrun. It’s not true.

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« Reply #11115 on: August 12, 2024, 10:45:40 AM »
No, We got fucked this cycle. You get nuked now.

The pain ahead isn’t eve the real pain. I’ll give you the heads up, you will be told the cycle is going to push out to 2026 because you had the bear market, effectively resetting the bullrun. It’s not true.
Where do you see the numbers going for BTC, ETH, BNB, SOL, XRP, DOGE, ADA?

I hope you're wrong. The only alt that hit a new ATH so far this cycle was BNB. ETH made it to around 87% and SOL 77%. The rest never even came close. We'll see what happens. It is possible to have a bearish cycle within a bullish cycle. Just look at past charts and the fictional chart I made. With supply and demand, FOMO, and FUD, you get a lot of emotionally charged trading, buying, and selling.

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« Reply #11116 on: August 12, 2024, 11:40:35 AM »
On Solana, we see Anatoly’s vision of a single atomic state machine as a powerful use case of decentralized blockchains, lowering information asymmetry.
-DePIN
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-NFT innovation
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« Reply #11117 on: August 12, 2024, 10:41:20 PM »
Where do you see the numbers going for BTC, ETH, BNB, SOL, XRP, DOGE, ADA?

I hope you're wrong. The only alt that hit a new ATH so far this cycle was BNB. ETH made it to around 87% and SOL 77%. The rest never even came close. We'll see what happens. It is possible to have a bearish cycle within a bullish cycle. Just look at past charts and the fictional chart I made. With supply and demand, FOMO, and FUD, you get a lot of emotionally charged trading, buying, and selling.

Big prices are off the table, my BTC 76k remains the closest call out there. It’ll spike again next year, I sold at 73.1k and have the patience to wait for my entry again.

I’ve been long the S&P for a while.

I just don’t fight it because I can’t change it.

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« Reply #11118 on: August 12, 2024, 11:51:42 PM »
Where do you see the numbers going for BTC, ETH, BNB, SOL, XRP, DOGE, ADA?

I hope you're wrong. The only alt that hit a new ATH so far this cycle was BNB. ETH made it to around 87% and SOL 77%. The rest never even came close. We'll see what happens. It is possible to have a bearish cycle within a bullish cycle. Just look at past charts and the fictional chart I made. With supply and demand, FOMO, and FUD, you get a lot of emotionally charged trading, buying, and selling.

Actually every "alt" launched this cycle hit an ATH... And therein of course, lies the lesson...

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« Reply #11119 on: August 13, 2024, 05:42:51 AM »
BlackRock Ethereum ETF Eyeing $1 Billion Flow Milestone

The BlackRock iShares Ethereum Trust (ETHA) has clinched a new flow milestone toward the $1 billion mark. This demonstrates ETHA's increasing growth, among other issuers, approved to trade a spot Ethereum ETF in the U.S.

https://u.today/blackrock-ethereum-etf-eyeing-1-billion-flow-milestone-details

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« Reply #11120 on: August 13, 2024, 02:55:53 PM »
September to remember…

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« Reply #11121 on: August 13, 2024, 03:53:00 PM »
No, We got fucked this cycle. You get nuked now.

The pain ahead isn’t eve the real pain. I’ll give you the heads up, you will be told the cycle is going to push out to 2026 because you had the bear market, effectively resetting the bullrun. It’s not true.

Macro probably decides what's next. Can't make a long post, but it comes down to this.

Emergency rate cuts, then everything is fucked.

25 bps cuts in Sept and onwards then consider this another can kick and we probably get another good 12 months. Global liquidity cycles ramp up. Bitcoin then the rest of crypto would do very well. Might take until November to get out of this sideways price action though.


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« Reply #11122 on: August 14, 2024, 03:57:28 PM »
9/13 - BlackRock IBIT BTC ETF Inflow: $34.6 million
9/13 - Blackrock ETHA ETH ETF Inflow: $49.1 million

https://farside.co.uk/btc/
https://farside.co.uk/eth/

Looks like Jump trading is preparing for another Ethereum Sell-Off to reduce the price.

https://www.coinspeaker.com/jump-trading-ethereum-sell-off/

Jump Trading Prepares for Another Ethereum Sell-Off Transferring 17,049 ETH

Market maker and trading firm Jump Trading is preparing for another major ETH sell-off and has recently moved another 17,049 ETH worth a staggering $46.44 million. Blockchain analytics platform SpotonChain stated that the $46.44 million ETH claimed from the liquid staking protocol Lido is now out for sale.

Ethereum Manipulation Concerns on the Rise

Following these massive transfers, one of the users on the X platform stated that Jump Trading had transferred ETH back to their accounts while another user raised concerns regarding manipulation adding that the “firm just wants to buy more”.

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« Reply #11123 on: August 19, 2024, 04:07:07 AM »
Halving came and went.  At what point can we say it did nothing for the price of bitcoin when many thought it would make it increase significantly?

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