if its true pilots dont point the plains nose down to avoid flying off the earth

[Big Chiro Flex]

Space shuttle is attached to very large rocket boosters to get it "out there".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Solid_Rocket_Booster

I had no clue that fucker was going 25Kmph 

[Parker]

I had no clue that fucker was going 25Kmph  

Doesn't look like it, does it?
http://m.space.com/12127-8-surprising-space-shuttle-facts.html

http://www.quora.com/If-the-fastest-space-shuttle-speed-is-17500-mph-How-does-it-catch-the-Earths-speed-when-the-shuttle-out-of-gravity

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/?title=Escape_velocity

The orbit insertion velocity near the Earth's surface is practically the same as the Earth escape velocity of 11.2 kilometers per second, or 25,805 miles per hour. Even at an altitude of 200 kilometers, the Space Shuttle is still inside the outer reaches of the Earth's atmosphere.

[sync pulse]

Why is that? And so you're also saying the space shuttles fly >25000mph when leaving our atmosphere?

Sigh...no...you have trouble with the concept of orbit and the concept of escape.

Let us start with orbit:

Imagine a BFC (Big Fuck'n Cannon)  You load it up and shoot it down range...Ignoring the air resistance the shell goes 1 mile before it hits the ground.
You reload with a larger powder charge. You shoot it down range and the muzzle velocity is faster than before, and so the shell goes 2 miles before it hits the ground.
You do this again and again, each time with larger powder charges.  Each time the muzzle velocity is faster and faster.  Each time the shell lands farther and farther downrange.  
10 miles, 100 miles, 1000 miles.  You keep doing it and you could make the shell hit the ground just behind you just by getting the muzzle velocity just right and shooting all the way around the world.  Increase the muzzle velocity just so and the shell won't hit the ground, it will sail over your head, and keep going around and around. (again, ignoring air resistance.)

This is orbit...This is what the space shuttle does....or did at one time.

Let us consider escape now:

Load the cannon up with enough powder to have a muzzle velocity of 25,000 miles per hour.  Shoot it straight up...the shell will leave the planet...probably to go into orbit around the Sun...but totally escaped from the earth...This is Escape velocity.

[sync pulse]

This is what makes a Black Hole...black.  The escape velocity gets faster for planets with higher gravity, like Jupiter.  As the gravity gets stronger and stronger you have to go faster and faster to escape the celestial object.
When it gets to a certain point, the escape velocity needed is faster than the speed of light.  So the object is black, and nothing can "get away".

[sync pulse]

This isn't on Youtube.


https://www.learner.org/vod/vod_window.html?pid=573

[Parker]

This is what makes a Black Hole...black.  The escape velocity gets faster for planets with higher gravity, like Jupiter.  As the gravity gets stronger and stronger you have to go faster and faster to escape the celestial object.
When it gets to a certain point, the escape velocity needed is faster than the speed of light.  So the object is black, and nothing can "get away".

no light=go black.

[Parker]

This isn't on Youtube.


https://www.learner.org/vod/vod_window.html?pid=573

1980s vid. I am expecting "The Voyage of The Mimi" to come on.

[sync pulse]

I do cardio to episodes of "the Mechanical Universe"

[Parker]

I do cardio to episodes of "the Mechanical Universe"

haha,
Yesterday I did cardio to the reading of "The Book Of Five Rings".

[Marty Champions]

A globe is a model of the earth. I gave you the link. A rocket cannot go off the globe nor can a plane.
A rocket must be powerful enough to leave the earth's atmosphere. Here are the layers
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/?title=Atmosphere

Also, some planes have higher ceilings or can reach higher heights than others. If you mean going into near space. Due to pressure and other issues, planes have a certain ceiling that they can go to. And the Space Shuttle as well. That diagram in the link shows you.

The world is not surrounded by antarctica. How is that even possible? in order to be surrounded by a an continent that is covered in ice, that would affect our climates, and all the continents wouldn't be what they are today.
If you are familiar with the continental drift, you know that the continents used to be all together as a super continent called Pangea. This supercontinent contained all the continents and was surrounded by a super ocean called Panthalassa.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea

You can see how the continents fit together like a puzzle. South Americs fits up to Africa, etc.

And you say beyond Antarctica is protected? Why?
Explain circumnavigation---which is going around the earth
People travel all over the world every day. Some have travel around the world. They make it a contest. So, if the world was really flat, then why are there contests? I suggest you travel. And you will see that what you are saying is incorrect.

what they tel u to beleive escape velocity who knows

[Marty Champions]

I think you mean escape velocity.  An object has to go 11.2 kilometers a second (25,000 miles an hour) to escape from the Earth.

cant be done

[Rami]

lolololollo   is the sun flat too?   At the very least we know the sun is like a pancake, how about all the planets?  

If the earth is flat how can you fly straight and end up where you started?

at least it's not square. or is it?

[Marty Champions]

lolololollo   is the sun flat too?   At the very least we know the sun is like a pancake, how about all the planets?  

If the earth is flat how can you fly straight and end up where you started?

at least it's not square. or is it?

the sun may be a 1d or 2dimensional projection

[Parker]

what they tel u to beleive escape velocity who knows

And what do you believe?

the sun may be a 1d or 2dimensional projection

And who is doing the "projecting"? How?

[V Man]

Falcon, your vast knowledge and theories regarding heme iron are quickly losing all credibility with this thread. 

[Rami]

No wonder we cant get off this planet, space doesn't even exist. Science is all hearsay anyway. We must not take their word for it but find proof ourselves instead.

[Marty Champions]

Falcon, your vast knowledge and theories regarding heme iron are quickly losing all credibility with this thread. 

leave it up to experts who get knowledge from experts much like how us common man do

[Marty Champions]

And what do you believe? And who is doing the "projecting"? How?

its like how lightning happens
Water evaporatess then lightning comes out of "no where"

[The_Punisher]

that's Bullshit.....why would they fly off the earth when airplanes can only reach a certain altitude before they loose lift, stall and then fall back down........basic flight mechanics...duh

[Marty Champions]

that's Bullshit.....why would they fly off the earth when airplanes can only reach a certain altitude before they loose lift, stall and then fall back down........basic flight mechanics...duh

ding ding congrats took over 800 views and 50 replys thouh 

[Parker]

its like how lightning happens
Water evaporatess then lightning comes out of "no where"

that...
What? It has nothing to do with water evaporation

Lightning happens when the negative charges (electrons) in the bottom of the cloud are attracted to the positive charges (protons) in the ground. The accumulation of electric charges has to be great enough to overcome the insulating properties of air.

You should know this, it's about electricity.

ding ding congrats took over 800 views and 50 replys thouh 

he is saying that the fly off the earth is bullshit.

[thegamechanger]

i had no idea the greatest minds of science were getbig regulars!
apparantely this is THE place to go to when you want to discover the real truths

[The Ugly]

Sigh...no...you have trouble with the concept of orbit and the concept of escape.

Let us consider escape now:

Load the cannon up with enough powder to have a muzzle velocity of 25,000 miles per hour.  Shoot it straight up...the shell will leave the planet...probably to go into orbit around the Sun...but totally escaped from the earth...This is Escape velocity.

How is that different than what Chiro said? 25k to escape atmosphere. Great analogy, but what am I missing?

[Yamcha]

Thanks for ruining my Sunday guys... god damn, I lost brain cells reading this one

[Big Chiro Flex]

Sigh...no...you have trouble with the concept of orbit and the concept of escape.

Let us start with orbit:

Imagine a BFC (Big Fuck'n Cannon)  You load it up and shoot it down range...Ignoring the air resistance the shell goes 1 mile before it hits the ground.
You reload with a larger powder charge. You shoot it down range and the muzzle velocity is faster than before, and so the shell goes 2 miles before it hits the ground.
You do this again and again, each time with larger powder charges.  Each time the muzzle velocity is faster and faster.  Each time the shell lands farther and farther downrange.  
10 miles, 100 miles, 1000 miles.  You keep doing it and you could make the shell hit the ground just behind you just by getting the muzzle velocity just right and shooting all the way around the world.  Increase the muzzle velocity just so and the shell won't hit the ground, it will sail over your head, and keep going around and around. (again, ignoring air resistance.)

This is orbit...This is what the space shuttle does....or did at one time.

Let us consider escape now:

Load the cannon up with enough powder to have a muzzle velocity of 25,000 miles per hour.  Shoot it straight up...the shell will leave the planet...probably to go into orbit around the Sun...but totally escaped from the earth...This is Escape velocity.

Some of this is still a bit over my head but thanks for the explanation