Author Topic: Why is it so difficult to have a great back double bicep? (Read 16432 times)

Nether Animal · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:08:34 AM »

Man Dillet was bad there. I think he had a weak chest and an awkward looking torso later on on top of his poor back. After '94 he was no longer a threat IMO.

Parker · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:11:46 AM »

Quote from: Nether Animal on July 21, 2015, 08:08:34 AM

Man Dillet was bad there. I think he had a weak chest and an awkward looking torso later on on top of his poor back. After '94 he was no longer a threat IMO.

He did well at the 97 Arnold. I think it was him that told Flex about Chad.

Wiggs · « **Reply #27 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:11:49 AM »

Quote from: Imako on July 21, 2015, 06:16:51 AM

Probably due to the fact your obese

1. I'm not obese
2. I said pros

Nether Animal · « **Reply #28 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:14:11 AM »

Quote from: Parker on July 21, 2015, 08:11:46 AM

He did well at the 97 Arnold. I think it was him that told Flex about Chad.

I saw someone post in the random pics thread that Dillet should have won the '96 Arnold.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #29 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:29:42 AM »

Quote from: Nether Animal on July 21, 2015, 08:08:34 AM

Man Dillet was bad there. I think he had a weak chest and an awkward looking torso later on on top of his poor back. After '94 he was no longer a threat IMO.

It's ironic you say that about his chest , Nasser criticized him and said something to the effect that people mistake his varicose veins on his chest as " development "

He had obscenely huge delts and arms but his back wasn't on par with his other parts , it literally disappeared in the back double biceps pose and it's not because he couldn't ' pose it ' correctly.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #30 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:34:24 AM »

Quote from: Parker on July 21, 2015, 06:50:36 AM

It seems that the guys who have a lot of back detail train back with a squeeze motion and perform pull ups correctly. Like they get a real good contraction of the scapula, and they also train the lower back well. Look at Flex, Shawn, Ronnie, Dorian and others from that era with good back detail. In today's era look at Phil and Kai train back, they even trained together at one time. A pull up or lay pull down mimics the Abadan pose, so doing a lot of those helps in the mind muscle connection as well.

Now, take a look at the back training of those who have terrible BDB poses and lack detail. Their training is telling a la Dillett, Nasser, and Jay Cutler.

I wouldn't lump Jay in with Dillett and Nasser , I wouldn't lump them in with Yates & Ronnie in terms of back either , but his was better than Paul's & Nassers.

Parker · « **Reply #31 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:35:01 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 21, 2015, 08:29:42 AM

It's ironic you say that about his chest , Nasser criticized him and said something to the effect that people mistake his varicose veins on his chest as " development "

He had obscenely huge delts and arms but his back wasn't on par with his other parts , it literally disappeared in the back double biceps pose and it's not because he couldn't ' pose it ' correctly.

There is a vid of him doing lat pull downs. He was just literally pulling the stack down with no contraction...and it was light weight I believe.

MAXX · « **Reply #32 on:** July 21, 2015, 08:39:58 AM »

Dillet is just one of those people with little body awareness. Look at his posing routines. Just akward looking..

funk51 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 21, 2015, 09:25:38 AM »

funk51 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 21, 2015, 09:26:34 AM »

njflex · « **Reply #35 on:** July 21, 2015, 09:29:04 AM »

dorian yates had one of if not best rear latspread/front latspread,his rear double bi was so/so,arms/delts not same flow as those great lats/back..Ronnie had great rear db pose..Arnold was good too..

Nether Animal · « **Reply #36 on:** July 21, 2015, 09:30:30 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 21, 2015, 08:29:42 AM

It's ironic you say that about his chest , Nasser criticized him and said something to the effect that people mistake his varicose veins on his chest as " development "

He had obscenely huge delts and arms but his back wasn't on par with his other parts , it literally disappeared in the back double biceps pose and it's not because he couldn't ' pose it ' correctly.

This picture displays a lot of what I was talking about.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #37 on:** July 21, 2015, 09:51:32 AM »

Quote from: njflex on July 21, 2015, 09:29:04 AM

dorian yates had one of if not best rear latspread/front latspread,his rear double bi was so/so,arms/delts not same flow as those great lats/back..Ronnie had great rear db pose..Arnold was good too..

Hersey. One of the best back double biceps shots in the history of the sport!! One of the most complete too. complete head-to-toe , the only one whose this complete in this shot is Phil Heath , Ronnie comes close , Arnold above Dorian in this pose?

njflex · « **Reply #38 on:** July 21, 2015, 09:56:05 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 21, 2015, 09:51:32 AM

Hersey. One of the best back double biceps shots in the history of the sport!! One of the most complete too. complete head-to-toe , the only one whose this complete in this shot is Phil Heath , Ronnie comes close , Arnold above Dorian in this pose?

I like his lat spreads better,,,its the flow ,,b/w shots are awesome,,he's huge no doubt .i'm saying Arnold had a nice rear db not comparing one to another.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #39 on:** July 21, 2015, 09:58:27 AM »

njflex · « **Reply #40 on:** July 21, 2015, 10:01:00 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 21, 2015, 09:58:27 AM

good shots ,,,yates changed as he got bigger ,but it looked good lighter weight 'balanced'

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #41 on:** July 21, 2015, 10:01:33 AM »

Quote from: njflex on July 21, 2015, 09:56:05 AM

I like his lat spreads better,,,its the flow ,,b/w shots are awesome,,he's huge no doubt .i'm saying Arnold had a nice rear db not comparing one to another.

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