News Reporter and Cameraman shot and killed in Virgina on LIVE TV interview

[Las Vegas]

So I just wanted to ask all the black posters......is it ok to now say that it was racially motivated? 

no, he was pissed off at himself and somehow race got pushed to the front

[noc]

Again you're right back to square one. Your Daddy ( .Gov ) should protect you from gun violence so they should ban guns and go use gun violence to collect them. Sound logic   You're not against gun violence or preventing gun violence because your solution increases it 100 fold.

Stay in the UK your safe there   from gun violence anyway

Having travelled throughout all those countries, if you really think the UK is more dangerous than South Africa...dense as fuck springs to mind.

Ever heard of lies, damned lies and statistics? Various differences in judicial systems and how crimes are reported. For example, affray is considered a violent crime in the UK whilst other countries it is only logged if the person is physically injured.

Hope this helps.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Having travelled throughout all those countries, if you really think the UK is more dangerous than South Africa...dense as fuck springs to mind.

Ever heard of lies, damned lies and statistics? Various differences in judicial systems and how crimes are reported. For example, affray is considered a violent crime in the UK whilst other countries it is only logged if the person is physically injured.

Hope this helps.

Not my sources , comes from the Daily Mail you have a problem with them let them know.

[Radical Plato]

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Vester, aka Bryce Williams. Apparently, he was at one point, on air talent.

[Thin Lizzy]

that is my point, i don't have to try and predict when a situation with someone going loopy with a gun is going to arise because i know 99.9% of the UK population don't have access to one. yeh sure a nutcase can still go loopy with a knife but i'm sure we would all much rather face that than a nutter with a gun.

And robbers don't have to worry about getting shot when they break into your house.

[Conker]

Again you're right back to square one. Your Daddy ( .Gov ) should protect you from gun violence so they should ban guns and go use gun violence to collect them. Sound logic  You're not against gun violence or preventing gun violence because your solution increases it 100 fold.

Stay in the UK your safe there  from gun violence anyway

lol i don't need the government to protect me from gun violence....because no one really has any guns here!

so what you're basically saying is you can't tackle the problem because gun owners will cause a blood bath should a law ever be passed that says they must give up their guns?

so lets say(hypothetically) somewhere down the line there was a referendum in the US in which people voted to amend the constitution and outlaw gun ownership....what should happen in that event?

personally i bet the vast majority would give them up without the big 'gun fight' you envisage, if push came to shove.

[Wiggs]

Sounds like we have a lot of GLPers here...

[noc]

Not my sources , comes from the Daily Mail you have a problem with them let them know.

I did - my retort was pretty much a copy and paste from the article you utilised. Oh you didn't read the article...just jumped feet in

You confidently used that table to argue your point haha...South fucking Africa!

[Conker]

And robbers don't have to worry about getting shot when they break into your house.

yep and i can be pretty certain if someone did break into my house they won't have a gun either, and i don't have to worry about my kids shooting their faces off with the gun i'm trying to keep accessible in case a robber with a gun breaks in.

[Las Vegas]

lol i don't need the government to protect me from gun violence...because no one really has any guns here!

that's good, because it can't

so what you're basically saying is you can't tackle the problem because gun owners will cause a blood bath should a law ever be passed that says they must give up their guns?

so lets say(hypothetically) somewhere down the line there was a referendum in the US in which people voted to amend the constitution and outlaw gun ownership....what should happen in that event?

personally i bet the vast majority would give them up without the big 'gun fight' you envisage, if push came to shove.

including criminals, or not?

[NarcissisticDeity]

I did - my retort was pretty much a copy and paste from the article you utilised. Oh you didn't read the article...just jumped feet in

You confidently used that table to argue your point haha...South fucking Africa!

I actually did read the article but my point stands the UK may be safe from gun violence but it's not safe haven from violence regardless

[Conker]

that's good, because it can't

including criminals, or not?

well tbf mass gun ownership doesn't seem to be working out too well in terms of "protection" in the US does it?
highest murder rates, highest gun crime rates and highest random shooting sprees in the developed world....
difference? very few guns in rest of developed world.

well if the criminals don't give them up, you give them 5 or 10 yr mandatory sentence if they're caught with one.
the supply of new guns to criminals will dry up as the guns in circulation diminishes.

[TuHolmes]

well tbf mass gun ownership doesn't seem to be working out too well in terms of "protection" in the US does it?
highest murder rates, highest gun crime rates and highest random shooting sprees in the developed world....
difference? very few guns in rest of developed world.

well if the criminals don't give them up, you give them 5 or 10 yr mandatory sentence if they're caught with one.
the supply of new guns to criminals will dry up as the guns in circulation diminishes.

I believe you are incorrect about highest murder rate.

A quick google shows it to be Honduras.

[Thin Lizzy]

yep and i can be pretty certain if someone did break into my house they won't have a gun either, and i don't have to worry about my kids shooting their faces off with the gun i'm trying to keep accessible in case a robber with a gun breaks in.

You're the type who thinks he can take the risk out of life.

Sorry, even with no guns, every time you get on a bus or subway, there's a chance of a lunatic on there with a backpack full of explosives. That's the world we live in and there's no going back.

[Thin Lizzy]

well tbf mass gun ownership doesn't seem to be working out too well in terms of "protection" in the US does it?
highest murder rates, highest gun crime rates and highest random shooting sprees in the developed world....
difference? very few guns in rest of developed world.

well if the criminals don't give them up, you give them 5 or 10 yr mandatory sentence if they're caught with one.
the supply of new guns to criminals will dry up as the guns in circulation diminishes.

You don't seem to get it. The areas in the U.S with the highest crime rates also have the toughest gun laws.

[Pray_4_War]

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Vester, aka Bryce Williams. Apparently, he was at one point, on air talent.

I have my doubts that he was really the one who did it.  I've learned on Getbig that only white people do stuff like this.

The killer was obviously a conservative, white, Christian, member of the Tea Party.  Pretty sure he listened to Rush Limbaugh, owned a confederate flag and had said the N word in the past too.

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol i don't need the government to protect me from gun violence....because no one really has any guns here!

so what you're basically saying is you can't tackle the problem because gun owners will cause a blood bath should a law ever be passed that says they must give up their guns?

so lets say(hypothetically) somewhere down the line there was a referendum in the US in which people voted to amend the constitution and outlaw gun ownership....what should happen in that event?

personally i bet the vast majority would give them up without the big 'gun fight' you envisage, if push came to shove.

lol i don't need the government to protect me from gun violence....because no one really has any guns here!

No you need them to protect us from it which if you know anything about the U.S. Government they can't run anything efficiently

so what you're basically saying is you can't tackle the problem because gun owners will cause a blood bath should a law ever be passed that says they must give up their guns?

I'm saying out Constitution acknowledges our rights to bare arms , you pass a law stating that no longer applies people will NOT stand for that. So your solution to gun violence is a non-solution , it just causes more gun violence. I already said what would reduce it. End the war on drugs , legalize all drugs , this stops most of the gun violence epidemic NOT all but a majority

so lets say(hypothetically) somewhere down the line there was a referendum in the US in which people voted to amend the constitution and outlaw gun ownership....what should happen in that event?

What should happen? Use those legally owned guns to fight back against the tyrannical government who disregards the Constitution of the United States

personally i bet the vast majority would give them up without the big 'gun fight' you envisage, if push came to shove.

LMAO you're showing your clear ignorance lol some would give them up , no doubts about it. Most will not. You see what happened when the Government wanted to take Cliven Bundy ranch? People from all over the country showed up with guns ready to fight the U.S. Government. Try and take people's gun from them and calamity will ensue. Trust me people are tried of .Gov stepping on them already , 100 million legal gun owners in the United States with access to 300 million firearms. Think about that.

[Conker]

I believe you are incorrect about highest murder rate.

A quick google shows it to be Honduras.

yeh because honduras is part of the developed world 

[Las Vegas]

well tbf mass gun ownership doesn't seem to be working out too well in terms of "protection" in the US does it?
highest murder rates, highest gun crime rates and highest random shooting sprees in the developed world....
difference? very few guns in rest of developed world.

well if the criminals don't give them up, you give them 5 or 10 yr mandatory sentence if they're caught with one.
the supply of new guns to criminals will dry up as the guns in circulation diminishes.

says who?  how can it possibly be known?

[Las Vegas]

we know with certainty that anyone who has saved a life or lives with gun-use feels it's worked out well...

so anything to counter it that can be said with certainty?

[Las Vegas]

the answer is NO, of course

whole thing turns out to be a lie, doesn't it

[Dokey111]

isnt that the reporter who a bug flew in his mouth a few years back on TV,, someone find it,, maybe that started this whole thing

[Conker]

No you need them to protect us from it which if you know anything about the U.S. Government they can't run anything efficiently

I'm saying out Constitution acknowledges our rights to bare arms , you pass a law stating that no longer applies people will NOT stand for that. So your solution to gun violence is a non-solution , it just causes more gun violence. I already said what would reduce it. End the war on drugs , legalize all drugs , this stops most of the gun violence epidemic NOT all but a majority
 

What should happen? Use those legally owned guns to fight back against the tyrannical government who disregards the Constitution of the United States

LMAO you're showing your clear ignorance lol some would give them up , no doubts about it. Most will not. You see what happened when the Government wanted to take Cliven Bundy ranch? People from all over the country showed up with guns ready to fight the U.S. Government. Try and take people's gun from them and calamity will ensue. Trust me people are tried of .Gov stepping on them already , 100 million legal gun owners in the United States with access to 300 million firearms. Think about that.

I think you misread what i said, how would the government be acting tyrannically if they rounded up the guns after a democratic vote to amend the constitution and outlaw gun ownership? your government seems happy enough to use force to spread democracy in other countries....surely they'd have the stomach to deliver democracy in their own country?

well i beg to differ. i think the majority of people in the developed world have a way too cushy life to risk throwing it all away to hang on to pieces of metal they really don't need anyway. most people will posture and talk big until push really comes to shove. sure some will put their lives on the line to protect their lumps of metal, most won't.

[Las Vegas]

none of that matters anyway, conker..  none of it can be known with certainty

[WalterWhite]

What what his handle was on gb.