Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles

[240 is Back]

Does it seem like Wilson went over the deep end this summer, on every level? He was vocal about many different ideas, he seems like he hired RGIII's pr team and picked up where he left off.

Wilson isn't all there, mentally.   He's taken too many blows to helmet, is highly immature, or maybe a little messed up gene action, ala that pothead swimmer phelps.

Wilson says things like this:
“Isn’t Gatorade the best? Just the best.”

“I banged my head during the Packers game in the playoffs, and the next day I was fine,” says Wilson. “It was the water.”
“I know it works.” His eyes brighten.

Wilson is just a little off, and it has nothing to do with religion.  He can play, and to the NFl that's all that matters.

[SquidVicious]

Wilson throws 64% and keeps getting to super bowls.

Tebow throw under 48% and barely wins 4th preseason games.

Teams will keep bringing him out every year to make the preseason interesting, but he's just too inconsistent.  NFL teams would start josef stalin if he threw over 60% completion and could read a defense.  Vick has a backup job and he murders puppies.  Tebow just sucks, can't throw or adjust to defenses.

The fact he and the top throwing coach are STILL trying to revamp his throwing mechanics after 5 years - they all agree his current throw isn't tight, loses accuracy after 15 yards.

I'm not talking about talent at all. I'm talking about all the hate leveled at Tebow vs. Wilson for being vocal about religion. Wilson gets a total pass from radio and television commentators both on sports channels and non-sports channels like The View and other anti-Christian programming that fills the airwaves. In our bizarro world, the media is selling blacks as untouchable angels and white christians as the anti-christ.

[TuHolmes]

I'm not talking about talent at all. I'm talking about all the hate leveled at Tebow vs. Wilson for being vocal about religion. Wilson gets a total pass from radio and television commentators both on sports channels and non-sports channels like The View and other anti-Christian programming that fills the airwaves. In our bizarro world, the media is selling blacks as untouchable angels and white christians as the anti-christ.

Who hates Wilson?

Seriously... I don't know anyone who HATES him.

Hell, I don't know anyone who HATES Tebow really. I know people who think he should have laid off the Anti-Abortion ad thing, but hate him? No... I don't know anyone who does that.

As far as Wilson, people may not think he's some mega stud QB, but no one dislikes the kid.

[240 is Back]

I'm not talking about talent at all. I'm talking about all the hate leveled at Tebow vs. Wilson for being vocal about religion. Wilson gets a total pass from radio and television commentators both on sports channels and non-sports channels like The View and other anti-Christian programming that fills the airwaves. In our bizarro world, the media is selling blacks as untouchable angels and white christians as the anti-christ.

where is all this hate?   Link?  I think there were maybe pockets of small haters years ago... but really, I watch FOX and I hear all about this hate, I expect to see idiots protesting outside of Eagles practice.

Sometimes FOX will exaggerate a bad guy so they have a rally cry.  Those 2 hapless black panther idiots that didn't stop anyone from voting, they got hundreds of hours of airplay, and Bush didn't even prosecute them.   Seems like one of those times.  yes, some people hate tebow's Christian faith.   There are muslim players too, and WAY more americans bash islam on a daily basis, and we don't see crowds of protesters shouting down that NFL player either.

IMO, this is a phil heath vicitimization thing.   "All the haters keeping him down..." no, he woudln't be changing his mechanics at this point if his throw was right.   Exaggerate a few 'haters' into this big anti-religious movement.  

[240 is Back]

Hell, I don't know anyone who HATES Tebow really.

Repubs will cite a few small incidents and quotes from 'online sources' from years ago.  They probably made up half of the mean sayings, just to have a story.  "Some people say..." is FOX's favorite way to just introduce things that nobody is really saying.  They want him to be the victim so they don't have to admit he can't play at this level.  He just cannot.

Now, Brady?  People HATE brady.  But he's a smug cheater banging a supermodel, gotta expect that lol.  Tebow gets NOWHERE near the hate that brady does.

[Dave D]

Wilson isn't all there, mentally.   He's taken too many blows to helmet, is highly immature, or maybe a little messed up gene action, ala that pothead swimmer phelps.

Wilson says things like this:
“Isn’t Gatorade the best? Just the best.”

“I banged my head during the Packers game in the playoffs, and the next day I was fine,” says Wilson. “It was the water.”
“I know it works.” His eyes brighten.

Wilson is just a little off, and it has nothing to do with religion.  He can play, and to the NFl that's all that matters.

Agreed.

I'm not talking about talent at all. I'm talking about all the hate leveled at Tebow vs. Wilson for being vocal about religion. Wilson gets a total pass from radio and television commentators both on sports channels and non-sports channels like The View and other anti-Christian programming that fills the airwaves. In our bizarro world, the media is selling blacks as untouchable angels and white christians as the anti-christ.

I think I understand what you're saying, but I thought Wilson caught a substantial amount of flak for saying he heard from God after the Superbowl  interception and the celibacy comment with the R&B singer. That said "white Christians" have been their own worst enemy. You shouldn't be surprised they aren't universally loved and accepted.

[SquidVicious]

where is all this hate?   Link?  I think there were maybe pockets of small haters years ago... but really, I watch FOX and I hear all about this hate, I expect to see idiots protesting outside of Eagles practice.

Sometimes FOX will exaggerate a bad guy so they have a rally cry.  Those 2 hapless black panther idiots that didn't stop anyone from voting, they got hundreds of hours of airplay, and Bush didn't even prosecute them.   Seems like one of those times.  yes, some people hate tebow's Christian faith.   There are muslim players too, and WAY more americans bash islam on a daily basis, and we don't see crowds of protesters shouting down that NFL player either.

IMO, this is a phil heath vicitimization thing.   "All the haters keeping him down..." no, he woudln't be changing his mechanics at this point if his throw was right.   Exaggerate a few 'haters' into this big anti-religious movement.  

Nobody is talking about protests. I'm talking about the atheist agenda of the media and how they have turned on Christianity. A MUSLIM NFL QB who knelt and prayed to Allah 5x a day would never have his beliefs heckled and belittled like Tebow has. If you can't see it, you've got your eyes wide shut.

[TuHolmes]

Repubs will cite a few small incidents and quotes from 'online sources' from years ago.  They probably made up half of the mean sayings, just to have a story.  "Some people say..." is FOX's favorite way to just introduce things that nobody is really saying.  They want him to be the victim so they don't have to admit he can't play at this level.  He just cannot.

Now, Brady?  People HATE brady.  But he's a smug cheater banging a supermodel, gotta expect that lol.  Tebow gets NOWHERE near the hate that brady does.

I actually agree with this.

[TuHolmes]

Nobody is talking about protests. I'm talking about the atheist agenda of the media and how they have turned on Christianity. A MUSLIM NFL QB who knelt and prayed to Allah 5x a day would never have his beliefs heckled and belittled like Tebow has. If you can't see it, you've got your eyes wide shut.

Isn't 70% of this country Christian?

I mean, are all of the Christians turning on each other?

I really don't see this.

[SF1900]

Nobody is talking about protests. I'm talking about the atheist agenda of the media and how they have turned on Christianity. A MUSLIM NFL QB who knelt and prayed to Allah 5x a day would never have his beliefs heckled and belittled like Tebow has. If you can't see it, you've got your eyes wide shut.

Sounds conspiracy theory-ish.

The fact is that most sport team and sport players are religious. How many baseball players make the sign of the cross before going up to bat? How many sport players thank God when they win? How many sport teams huddle in prayer?

As Tu Holmes said, there are A LOT more Christians than there are atheists in this country.

Either way, this would not stop him from being on a team if he had the potential to be a superstar quarterback and anyone who thinks that, has their eyes wide shut.

[Coach is Back!]

Well, no one on here is a professional athlete, nor does anyone here consistently train professional athletes.

What do you think I do for a living? Is this another troll job?

[Jizmonkey]

Nobody is talking about protests. I'm talking about the atheist agenda of the media and how they have turned on Christianity. A MUSLIM NFL QB who knelt and prayed to Allah 5x a day would never have his beliefs heckled and belittled like Tebow has. If you can't see it, you've got your eyes wide shut.

There are way more people who love Tebow than hate him. It's not even close. When Tebow used to do his kneel before each game some people did not like it because it seems egotistical, but most copied it on social media and it was huge for a while. When a person is over exposed some people will get sick of it, but he doesn't get roasted in the news anymore, it's quite the opposite.

Being an Eagles fan it was frustrating seeing ESPN news about the team because it was all about Tebow, a 3rd string QB who we new would not even make the team. Nothing on how good Bradford was, the revamped secondary etc. Glad he didn't make it because of that alone. There is so much love for Tebow it's sickning. Not sure it you follow football.

[SF1900]

There are way more people who love Tebow than hate him. It's not even close. When Tebow used to do his kneel before each game some people did not like it because it seems egotistical, but most copied it on social media and it was huge for a while. When a person is over exposed some people will get sick of it, but he doesn't get roasted in the news anymore, it's quite the opposite.

Being an Eagles fan it was frustrating seeing ESPN news about the team because it was all about Tebow, a 3rd string QB who we new would not even make the team. Nothing on how good Bradford was, the revamped secondary etc. Glad he didn't make it because of that alone. There is so much love for Tebow it's sickning. Not sure it you follow football.

To be honest, I really don't care one way or another. Sports is not my thing. Sometimes I like to discuss it (as in now).

If Tebow had the potential to lead any team to a Superbowl, I think any team would pick him up ASAP. Its obvious that is the main goal of EVERY team, and no team would give up the chance to sign a star player to achieve that goal.

Just my 2 cents. I admit that I 100% do not know the ins and outs of football or any sport, so I may be totally off base.

[Coach is Back!]

One of the prerequisites for being an NFL Quarterback is the ability to throw a football.

Tebow obviously can't do this on an NFL level.

I have this explanation in another thread so here's the abbreviated version. 1. He's had basically the same mechanics since high school through college and probably even before that. 2. He problems started after he got let go by Denver. The hype that "he can't throw" is a myth of epic proportion. He was throwing just fine before he got a throwing coach to as one headline put it "teach him how to throw a football" the problem was is this coach fucked it up.

So once again, you don't take someone who has been successful through high school to become one of the best QB's college football has ever seen only to be told you can't throw and have some coach come in and establish another throwing motion and relearning new muscle patterns to throw that football. You don't do that. If that's his natural throwing motion then that's his natural throwing motion...end of story. BUT you can perfect it but for Gods sake you don't reinvent it at the age of 27. Don't be one of ones that became brainwashed into thinking that "he can't throw" that's crap.

[Jizmonkey]

Don't be one of ones that became brainwashed into thinking that "he can't throw" that's crap.

He can't throw at a NFL level. Better?

[Coach is Back!]

He can't throw at a NFL level. Better?

Bullshit. Read my quote. Seems no other team can and will not give an explanation as to why he's not playing. If you're ready to have an intelligent conversation about this let me know. But the ENTIRE "he can't throw" is complete bullshit.

[Jizmonkey]

Bullshit. Read my quote. Seems no other team can and will not give an explanation as to why he's not playing. If you're ready to have an intelligent conversation about this let me know. But the ENTIRE "he can't throw" is complete bullshit.

He's not playing for any team beacause he is not good enough.His throwing motion has changed over the years. Its slightly better, but that's his main problem. He has a slow flat release. He's not playing the option anymore like college where he can rack up stats. In the Nfl you have to go through your reads and get rid of the ball quickly and accurately. He cannot do that. That's why they had to scheme the offense around him in denver where he did have some success. But guess what, Elway saw him for what he was and got rid of him.
And he has done nothing since, with 3 other teams.

This was all known coming out of college. He was projected to fail in the NFL because of his throwing motion. It was a huge reach to draft him in the first round, and that was the consensus at the time as well. Tebow is a good football player, but not a good QB. He's got heart and character, and can run well with good size. That does not translate into a NFL QB.

[240 is Back]

Nobody is talking about protests. I'm talking about the atheist agenda of the media and how they have turned on Christianity. A MUSLIM NFL QB who knelt and prayed to Allah 5x a day would never have his beliefs heckled and belittled like Tebow has. If you can't see it, you've got your eyes wide shut.

What "athiest agenda"?   Where is the print and tv where tebow gets hated?   You say tebow has been heckled and ridiculed... can you cite 5 examples? 

WHERE ARE ALL THE TEBOW ATTACKS?   I can find a hundred muslim attacks, this week, on getbig lol.  I can find PLENTY of anti-michael sam, homophobic hatred.

Where, where, where is this massive anti-tebow religious thing?  Aside from right-wing media talking about it 24/7?

[240 is Back]

Bullshit. Read my quote. Seems no other team can and will not give an explanation as to why he's not playing. If you're ready to have an intelligent conversation about this let me know. But the ENTIRE "he can't throw" is complete bullshit.

he's working with one of the TOP throwing coaches - see the convo we had last week.

Denial = "nobody can tell us why he isn't playing".   

Look at the game tape.  Look at him working so hard to dump 4 yard passes against scrubs in game 4 of preseason.  Brady and Rodgets would be FEASTING on those scrub defenders.

[Coach is Back!]

he's working with one of the TOP throwing coaches - see the convo we had last week.

Denial = "nobody can tell us why he isn't playing".  

Look at the game tape.  Look at him working so hard to dump 4 yard passes against scrubs in game 4 of preseason.  Brady and Rodgets would be FEASTING on those scrub defenders.

I don't give a fuck who he was working with. Read my post again. This is isn't speculation. This is a physiologoical and neurological fact.

[Coach is Back!]

Seriously Rob, you're out of league in this convo. You're trolling. Troll the poli board. I'm dead fucking on with this I guarantee.

[240 is Back]

I don't give a fuck who he was working with. Read my post again. This is isn't speculation. This is a physiologoical and neurological fact.

So he CAN throw - but he's throwing at 47.8%....

So his throwing is fine, but he's just mentally poor when it comes to decision making?

You can't have it both ways.  He either has a poor arm, OR he has terrible mentals.  Which is it?

47.8% is awful.   Browns are the worst in league... at 54%.   Saints up near 70%.  

Tebow's arm isn't good enough to make the browns.

[Coach is Back!]

Wilson isn't all there, mentally.   He's taken too many blows to helmet, is highly immature, or maybe a little messed up gene action, ala that pothead swimmer phelps.

Wilson says things like this:
“Isn’t Gatorade the best? Just the best.”

“I banged my head during the Packers game in the playoffs, and the next day I was fine,” says Wilson. “It was the water.”
“I know it works.” His eyes brighten.

Wilson is just a little off, and it has nothing to do with religion.  He can play, and to the NFl that's all that matters.

God dammit. Sometimes I hate coming on here but I can't help sometimes to respond to your bullshit. "Wilson is off"  

[240 is Back]

Seriously Rob, you're out of league in this convo. You're trolling. Troll the poli board. I'm dead fucking on with this I guarantee.

Tebow completes fewer than HALF of his passes.   The worst team in the NFL throws at 54%.  

Maybe Tebow's arm is perfect, throws are superb (but he's working to change it, odd), well, even if those are the case -

He has to be incredibly bad at decision making to throw under 50%.  That's inexcusable.  not good enough for any roster, and I just showed why.

[240 is Back]

God dammit. Sometimes I hate coming on here but I can't help sometimes to respond to your bullshit. "Wilson is off" 

How do you defend his quotes?  He's an awesome QB, he should start for another decade and will keep winning.

But yes, his quotes are off, he's a weirdo.  Nobody normal talks like that.

“Isn’t Gatorade the best? Just the best.”

“I banged my head during the Packers game in the playoffs, and the next day I was fine,” says Wilson. “It was the water.”
“I know it works.” His eyes brighten.