Author Topic: Why do I always see Pro's doing so many Warmup Sets and not many Working sets?  (Read 13310 times)

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he's 5'10/5'11

Thank you sir.

Taking Anadrol AND Dianabol and weighing 170 pounds.  
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irishdave

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agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....

bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these  ;D)

ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear  ;D

and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training


I dunno man you looked very skinny in the pics I've seen of you

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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.

Because you spend too much time watching videos and not enough time in the actual gym.  Hope this helps.

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Did you like him as "the trainer"?

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Hahaha!  ;D
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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.

They do what is needed to grow, and not more than that.

What many people forget that atleast in bodybuilding it is an endurance sport. The person who can train the most for the longest (in combination with a drug regime) is likely to [eventually] build the most muscle. There is no point in rushing through a warm-up and moving big poundages when you can do it once/twice a week for several years before you need multiple hip replacements and have multiple fuzed vertebrates. Meanwhile the guy who trains 'smart' and is able to continuesly train and hit various musclegroups continues to grow.

Compared to topsports-athletes (bodybuilding is not a topsport) bodybuilders have a much longer-timeframe in which they can become succesful before they go over the hill. Being able to train consistently for many years is preferable to inflicting short/long-term damages which may prevent training for short/long periods. E.g. a (pro)bodybuilder who is out due to an injury for 2 years whereas his competitors are not, is unlikely to be able to compete with said competitors 2 years later after rehab. Which is not to say he cannot build muscle, but comparatively he'll have reduced his time to grow.

The implications for the average gymrat:
Unless you actually have a shot at getting anywhere competitively [national/international top] there is no point to lift big poundages and risk injuries (or to heavy dose for that matter). Better to go for the fabled 'health-look', and by that I don't mean the healthy purple glow.
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you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training
 

you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing

this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds


I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.


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you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training
 

you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing

this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds

If you train till failure how can you train past that though? I think training just short of failure is better. I've been doing the whole train to failure thing and my body is not liking it- it can be counter productive




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I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.


ur always either way or pretty well built up,,u look good 'flabby'lol,,,what are u going on a bank heist after pic was taken..or should I call u 'DARTH DAVE'

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I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.


is that Kais head complete with hair braid under your towel?

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ur always either way or pretty well built up,,u look good 'flabby'lol,,,what are u going on a bank heist after pic was taken..or should I call u 'DARTH DAVE'

As are you, always in shape. I know I'm still better than 99% of Joe Public but I'm worse this week, my abs are looking smooth. I'm 31 soon and I can't keep eating jaffa cakes/pizza/jelly beans at night before bed (the last 2 nights it was a large kebab instead of the pizza). Time to hop back on the GH  :o :o

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is that Kais head complete with hair braid under your towel?

It's his ponytail how did you know?

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As are you, always in shape. I know I'm still better than 99% of Joe Public but I'm worse this week, my abs are looking smooth. I'm 31 soon and I can't keep eating jaffa cakes/pizza/jelly beans at night before bed (the last 2 nights it was a large kebab instead of the pizza). Time to hop back on the GH  :o :o
8)..NEED TO ENJOY SOME GOOD OR BAD FOOD  ;D

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I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.


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By the way-  it is physiologically impossible to be taking both ANADROL AND DIANABOL and weigh only 170 pounds. If you simple hold a bottle of Dianabol in your hands you automatically weigh at least 200 pounds.
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You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.

Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...

Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,

100% true... After that 1 all out set to failure in your target rep range you must change a variable...new exercise, hand placement, foot placement, seat position I prefer a new machine... rep ranges... TUT and after sufficient rest repeat you will not need as many warm ups... 4-6 sets max depending on the muscle group. Use all compound and positioning in which you are the strongest each exercise... Each set must stand on its own merit as being the one set that created the most hypertrophy... This is how you train... You are not Branch Warren.. This poster is very smart and I bet he looks jacked like I do....

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Yes I agree as well ergo.

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@Davidtheman100 How can i can run Insulin, HGH and test and not compete? For what the fuack you do that? Your mirror?  ;D >:(

Show the pics, i wanna see how huge you look. for real. ::)

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@Davidtheman100 How can i can run Insulin, HGH and test and not compete? For what the fuack you do that? Your mirror?  ;D >:(

Show the pics, i wanna see how huge you look. for real. ::)


If you don't believe that there are many people not currently competing that look good/better than alot of the competition running the same dosages or higher, it speaks more about your knowledge than anything else...You think that because you pay some money and sign a piece of paper that you somehow are among the elite physiques? Doesn't work that way...Some people have realistic depictions of what their earning is gonna be...For most it's not a lifestyle rather than a hobby...It's like the streetballers in NYC that are more skilled than a ton of NBA guys at the end of the bench...But with BB it's ten-fold because theres usually no pay off...I was able to get sponsor money and i still do...I still model as i'm not old and do it sporadically as i still work full-time and my asking price has always been high because i was like you and thought since i'm a high-level bodybuilder that i'm somehow on a pedestal... I'm able to do ALL OF THIS because i'm constantly on the move and i'm RESPECTED within the community... but that's never been a problem though because i wasn't a gimmick...I always have a good physique and YES a good physique pays...Regardless i work for my money and would have money anyway...You wouldn't know anything about that...Keep chasing your dreams all the best wishes for you,

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If you don't believe that there are many people not currently competing that look good/better than alot of the competition running the same dosages or higher, it speaks more about your knowledge than anything else...You think that because you pay some money and sign a piece of paper that you somehow are among the elite physiques? Doesn't work that way...Some people have realistic depictions of what their earning is gonna be...For most it's not a lifestyle rather than a hobby...It's like the streetballers in NYC that are more skilled than a ton of NBA guys at the end of the bench...But with BB it's ten-fold because theres usually no pay off...I was able to get sponsor money and i still do...I still model as i'm not old and do it sporadically as i still work full-time and my asking price has always been high because i was like you and thought since i'm a high-level bodybuilder that i'm somehow on a pedestal... I'm able to do ALL OF THIS because i'm constantly on the move and i'm RESPECTED within the community... but that's never been a problem though because i wasn't a gimmick...I always have a good physique and YES a good physique pays...Regardless i work for my money and would have money anyway...You wouldn't know anything about that...Keep chasing your dreams all the best wishes for you,


I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...

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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...

What stack are you running? Does your wife know you wear shorts like that?  ;D

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What stack are you running? Does your wife know you wear shorts like that?  ;D


They are her shorts.. 2 AD daily... 8-12 iu's sero's. 500mg test e EOD, and 100mg ace ED, 60mg (6 x 10mg) Anavar ED...

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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...

Looking great - love the 4000lb stare
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By the way-  it is physiologically impossible to be taking both ANADROL AND DIANABOL and weigh only 170 pounds. If you simple hold a bottle of Dianabol in your hands you automatically weigh at least 200 pounds.

 ;D

just started the a-bombs on monday bro

what's funny though is that my arms measure a legit 17 inches 6-7% bodyfat, which is decent sized arms for a 5'11" 170 pound dude, no?

but the thing is, i usually do enter the gym in a wheelchair  ;D